Steve jobs died

[Capt Caveman]

He did not change the world. At all.

He was the head of a company that made various devices and gadgets at the same time that other companies were making similar devices. He managed to become incredibly rich in the process.

Actually, everyday you use something that was influenced by him. And yes, he did change the world.

 

[Veliko]

Actually, everyday you use something that was influenced by him. And yes, he did change the world.

He sold expensive gadgets to the mass-market - how on earth is that changing the world? Everything he made was influenced by something else.

Examples of products that changed the world are fridges/freezers and cars. Steve Jobs didn't do anything like that.

 

[ElFenix]

RIP, but why is this stickied?

to head off the 50 inevitable reposts we would get

 

[Josh]

So when I say that Steve Jobs didn't change the world, your rebuttal is essentially 'he is more famous than you'...?

No, my rebuttal is he created products that have resonated so much with people around the WORLD they felt the need to express grief and sorrow when he passed...therefore, he has done something that changed the world we live in today. However you want to try and spin it, he has affected people in some, way, shape or form around the entire world. There aren't many CEOs that pass away and get the type of recognition he is getting.

Stop being a troll and acknowledge that Steve Jobs did something more than most.

 

[Capt Caveman]

He sold expensive gadgets to the mass-market - how on earth is that changing the world? Everything he made was influenced by something else.

Examples of products that changed the world are fridges/freezers and cars. Steve Jobs didn't do anything like that.

/facepalm

Are you seriously this clueless or just trolling?

You are using a device right now influenced by him. Unless you don't have a smartphone and use the ecosystem built around it, still use a text GUI on your pc, only buy CDs for music, etc...

He created products that were user friendly, created mass appeal and demand that changed the landscape on how people communicate and use technology today as other companies have copied and in some cases improved/innovated thanks to Apple and Steve Jobs.

Let me guess, you have a netbook?

 

[AMDZen]

He sold expensive gadgets to the mass-market - how on earth is that changing the world? Everything he made was influenced by something else.

Examples of products that changed the world are fridges/freezers and cars. Steve Jobs didn't do anything like that.

Does anyone remember the name of the person who created the automobile? No. We remember Henry Ford for bringing it to the masses.

Does anyone remember the first MP3 player? No. Because they are all irrelevant prior to the iPod.

I love how the Apple hatred is so ingrained, people cannot even admit when a company changes everything. They changed everything. Steve Jobs led the charge.

Stop being a retard.

 

[paperfist]

Does anyone remember the name of the person who created the automobile? No. We remember Henry Ford for bringing it to the masses.

Does anyone remember the first MP3 player? No. Because they are all irrelevant prior to the iPod.

I love how the Apple hatred is so ingrained, people cannot even admit when a company changes everything. They changed everything. Steve Jobs led the charge.

Stop being a retard.

It's only because he was the face of a huge company.

Would you drive around in a Henry Ford built car today?

Obama gets credit for killing Bin Laden, but we all know he didn't do it.

Apple takes common technology and makes it more appealing (to some) and easier to use (for some) and markets it to the masses as the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[Josh]

It's only because he was the face of a huge company.

Would you drive around in a Henry Ford built car today?

Obama gets credit for killing Bin Laden, but we all know he didn't do it.

Apple takes common technology and makes it more appealing (to some) and easier to use (for some) and markets it to the masses as the best thing since sliced bread.

"Jobs is listed as either primary inventor or co-inventor in 338 US patents or patent applications related to a range of technologies from actual computer and portable devices to user interfaces (including touch-based), speakers, keyboards, power adapters, staircases, clasps, sleeves, lanyards and packages"


I'd say he did a lot more than than "taking common technology"

 

[Veliko]

/facepalm

Are you seriously this clueless or just trolling?

You are using a device right now influenced by him. Unless you don't have a smartphone and use the ecosystem built around it, still use a text GUI on your pc, only buy CDs for music, etc...

He created products that were user friendly, created mass appeal and demand that changed the landscape on how people communicate and use technology today as other companies have copied and in some cases improved/innovated thanks to Apple and Steve Jobs.

Let me guess, you have a netbook?

I am using a PC, a device that came about due to the influence of dozens (hundreds...?) of people across many different companies over the space of many years.

His two most famous products - iPhone and iPod - were products that came about after other people in other companies had already created the precursors to.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I am using a PC, a device that came about due to the influence of dozens (hundreds...?) of people across many different companies over the space of many years.

His two most famous products - iPhone and iPod - were products that came about after other people in other companies had already created the precursors to.

That PC using Windows, a graphical interface?

And iPhone and iPod, yes there were similar devices beforehand but not user-friendly, innovative nor created a demand. How many people wanted a smartphone for non-business use before the iPhone? How many online sites could you download music before the iPod? Then add the user-friendly interface...

Again, thank Apple and Steve Jobs for what you have today.

 

[NFS4]

 

[ProfJohn]

Did people go into mourning when Henry Ford died? However, Henry Ford's invention actually did change the world because it allowed individuals to travel distances at previously unheard of speeds.

Your use of the word 'hatred' in this instance is symptomatic of how the Steve Jobs fans (note I said 'fans' rather than 'fanboys') simply cannot discuss this subject rationally - at no point have I posted anything that could be construed as 'hateful'.

Ford didn't invent anything though. Unless you are talking about the assembly line.

Jobs and Woz did invent something, the modern home computer. The Apple II was the computer equivalent of the Model T. A computer for the masses.

Anyone who tries to discount his impact on the PC business is being foolish. Just head to yahoo news and start reading all the news stories about him and how he changes things in major ways.

 

[waggy]

some are stretching what Steve really did. lol

BUT without him apple would not be where it is. did he have influence? sure in the hell did. but he did not shape or make the PC or MP3 player landscape even without him we would still be where we are today. maybe not exactly but who is to say for better or worse?

I do think the IPHONE did help bring the "smartphone" to the masses. before it was more of a business type gadget. the man was a great CEO. what he did to apple is amazing. He was a salesmen, leader and someone who anyone could connect to. I doubt we see another CEO like him again.


RIP died far to young.

 

[waggy]

Ford didn't invent anything though. Unless you are talking about the assembly line.

Jobs and Woz did invent something, the modern home computer. The Apple II was the computer equivalent of the Model T. A computer for the masses.

Anyone who tries to discount his impact on the PC business is being foolish. Just head to yahoo news and start reading all the news stories about him and how he changes things in major ways.

the assembly line did change the world. you have to give Ford credit for that (and kingsford charcoal!).

sure Jobs helped bring home PC's to people. But it was happening anyway and would have even if he decided to work in a stripper joint. BUT he had influrance in how it came out. nobody can say if jobs decided on a diffrent job if computers would be better or worse. but i am thankfull for what he did.

 

[Jaskalas]

When I first heard of the iPad, I was certain that it had no use, served no purpose not already covered. Tablets are the future of personal computers and he lead Apple who lead the way.

Visionaries are sorely missed in this world.

 

[waggy]

When I first heard of the iPad, I was certain that it had no use, served no purpose not already covered. Tablets are the future of personal computers and he lead Apple who lead the way.

Visionaries are sorely missed in this world.

same! when the Ipad first came out i laughed. wondered why anyone would want one. if you wanted a pc there are small laptops you can take.

then got to play with one when a buddy got one (he is a major apple nerd) and loved it. Now i want one.

 

[AMDZen]

I still don't want one, but I felt the same way. iPad, why the hell would I want that, and for that price? No way.

Then I realized what people who can use it could it for and honestly, its a fantastic world changing device the same as its iPod and iPhone predecessors. Yes there were tablets, big clunky monstrosities, but the amount of competitors after the iPad speaks for itself. Everybody is trying, and failing IMO. Some Android devices are roughly as good, but not superior. And then there are the true failures like HP's devices

 

[geecee]

From Gizmodo, Woz Remembers Steve Jobs:
http://m.gizmodo.com/5847343/woz-remembers-steve-jobs

 

[ProfJohn]

sure Jobs helped bring home PC's to people. But it was happening anyway

And sooner or latter someone besides Ford would have figured out the assembly line.

And someone would have perfected the light bulb if Edison hadn't.

And someone would have flown faster than sound if Yeager hadn't.

And someone would have stepped on the moon if Armstrong hadn't.

etc etc etc etc etc

To discount Jobs and his effect is just stupid.

Edison and the light bulb is the perfect comparison with Jobs and the PC. Every piece of the light bulb had been invented and was in use when Edison came along and perfected by putting the pieces together better than anyone before him had. Exactly the same thing that Jobs did.

 

[Jaskalas]

Let's state this another way.

Microsoft is dedicating an entire version of Windows to tablets. That's some major gravitas. In the world of mobile computing, the tail wagged the dog. Apple stepped up and took the lead.

 

[ProfJohn]

From Gizmodo, Woz Remembers Steve Jobs:
http://m.gizmodo.com/5847343/woz-remembers-steve-jobs

Awesome summation of what made Jobs so important.

 

[ProfJohn]

Woz made another great point in the CBS interview.

Jobs introduces the iPad and people run out and buy it because they trust him and ideas.

If Bill Gates introduces the MSPad and people sit back and think about it and wonder about it and whether they need it etc etc.


Just look at all the products we use on a daily basis that have his impact on them. We probably lost the most important person in the history of the computer and its user interface.

 

[AdamK47]

Ford didn't invent the automobile or the assembly line. Just like Jobs didn't invent the home PC, MP3 player, smartphone, or tablet. These people took an existing idea and mass produced it in a way that made it desireable and affordable.

The automobile was actually invented over 200 years before Ford made the first Model T. The concept for the assembly line was developed by Ransom Olds. Henry Ford put it into practice on a large scale and showed the world that it works.

 

[waggy]

both you guys are right. they had the forsight to see that these were amazing and how to package them.

Jobs was a great man. i just think far to many are stretching what he actually did and not actually saying the great things he did do.

 

[RichUK]

Damn, what a shame.