Steve Jobs resigns as Apple CEO

[Nintendesert]

Try 5...and he's not my "God", as I stated I use a Blackberry as I prefer it over the iPhone but I'm not going to hate simply for the fact of hating on Apple. I recognize a good, quality product when I see one. I was also defending the company as a whole, not just Jobs.

Blackberry. You're a heathen. D:

 

[Lifted]

Maybe Apple will actually start some philanthropic activities now that the greedy bastard is out.

Too bad for him he can't take it with him. I guess he'll find that out soon enough.

 

[alfa147x]

Maybe Apple will actually start some philanthropic activities

Why? They are a business. They make money...

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

I guess you've never heard the idiom, a fool and his money are soon parted. Explain how investing money into something that has less than a 10% market share makes sense? Especially when the money you'd spend is more than what you'd spend to get into the 90% market share? There really isn't any besides "personal choice" and we all know how bullshit "personal choice" is. Any salesman will tell you that.

10% of the computing market maybe.

what about the PMP, smartphone and tablet market?
they darn near have a monopoly on those.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

steve jobs introduces macintosh 1984.

epic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B-XwPjn9YY&feature=related

that thing looks like a flaming turd.
what kinda resolution is that? 4 bit color at 240 x 160?

 

[SP33Demon]

10% of the computing market maybe.

what about the PMP, smartphone and tablet market?
they darn near have a monopoly on those.

Google's Android passed them in market share a long time ago and owns 52% of the smartphone market. Apple is still a big player, just #2 now. Google is the one with the monopoly, that's why everyone is trying to sue them to stop Android from expanding even faster than it already has.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I avoid Apple because they charge 2X as much for an item that can get the same job done. What can you do on your MBA that cannot be done on a Windows platform? You can call me cheap, but in the end I have more money in my wallet.

One example is the iPhone. No free turn by turn navigation. You have to pay $50 to Tom Tom and an extra $20 annual fee if you want traffic updates. On my phone, it's free. GPS Nav is very handy in a pinch and that's a pretty big deal. Find me a free turn by turn navigation app that is free on iPhone and I'll try it with an open mind.

???? You mean Andriod tablet's that cost just as much as an iPad?

Um, Mapquest is a free turn by turn navigation app for the iPhone. I use it all the time.

edit - I need to drive down to Newport, RI this weekend. I used google first for directions and it gave me crappy directions to go down there, MapQuest provided me with multiple options that were all better.

Google's Android passed them in market share a long time ago and owns 52% of the smartphone market. Apple is still a big player, just #2 now. Google is the one with the monopoly, that's why everyone is trying to sue them to stop Android from expanding even faster than it already has.

If you combine all Andriod manufacturers, not a single one alone has surpassed Apple.

 

[LegendKiller]

Yep, people get too emo over one guy. Fact of the matter is that Apple will not miss a beat without Jobs. All this emotional crap is for the birds, Jobs was simply a figurehead. Of course he had the vision for many of their products but it wasn't something so revolutionary that it's going to stand the test of time. The iPod is a great example: how many people will own them in 10 years? Jobs capitalized on current technology to make it friendlier to the masses which is commendable but let's not act like he reinvented the light bulb. He sold his simplicity to the masses and tricked them into buying it at double the price, Apple is the king of selling water to a whale (marketing) and that's why they'll always be around. There's a sucker born every day comes to mind.

Again...

I wanted a laptop that wasn't plastic, wouldn't look like crap in a year, had a good warranty, and was built simply so if I did need to replace something, I could easily. I'm not sure about you, but I took apart a Gateway notebook. After taking apart 3 layers of crap to get to an inaccessable fan to blow out the dust, it took me 6 hours to put it back correctly, after about 60 screws. All PC notebooks are built like this.

Unlike Apple, simple, elegant, well built and good looking.

If this was so "easy", why hasn't any other company built a notebook like it? HP Envy - half plastic. IBM - half plastic. Asus - half plastic. Dell - none.

Same with the iPod. No other company has been able to come up with a good quality product that isn't a plastic POS. Every iPod I've ever had still works, including my iPod I bought in 2003.

That's not true of my Mom's iRiver or my brother's Rio.

Further, nobody has been able to integrate the player with the software and get the music industry contracts like Apple. Nobody has been able to replicate the apps store like Apple.

They may have not been first in both areas, but they certainly have made them far better and appealing to the masses.

 

[bfdd]

???? You mean Andriod tablet's that cost just as much as an iPad?

Um, Mapquest is a free turn by turn navigation app for the iPhone. I use it all the time.



If you combine all Andriod manufacturers, not a single one alone has surpassed Apple.

well Apple buying up 70% of the LCDs for tablets and letting 20+ companies fight over the next 30% doesn't help keep other tabs prices down.

 

[Capt Caveman]

And with Apple Care, I've been able to walk into an Apple Store and get a replacement iPhone in under 15 minutes.

 

[Capt Caveman]

well Apple buying up 70% of the LCDs for tablets and letting 20+ companies fight over the next 30% doesn't help keep other tabs prices down.

Happens when they act first and everyone else is left to react with buggy not ready for primetime devices.

 

[TheSlamma]

Maybe Apple will actually start some philanthropic activities now that the greedy bastard is out.

Too bad for him he can't take it with him. I guess he'll find that out soon enough.

I bet you donate a ton

 

[Miramonti]

Awesome 2007 interview with Jobs and Gates, can really get a sense of how much stronger and committed Jobs' vision is at this stage of the game. You can also see the tension that still existed between them, but with lots of respect for what each has accomplished.

It's very long - 11 parts - but here's the beginning and youtube will feed the rest.

Part 1

 

[BeauJangles]

well Apple buying up 70% of the LCDs for tablets and letting 20+ companies fight over the next 30% doesn't help keep other tabs prices down.

How can you continuously refuse to give Apple and Steve Jobs any credit whatsoever?

Unlike every other company that has tried in the past, they've designed a tablet that consumers actually want, so much so that they cannot build enough of them. The Galaxy Tab and other half-baked Android Tablets (yes, Android tablets blow right now) would not exist without the iPad, just like the Droid, the Charge, the Volt, the Zolt, the Dolt, and every other modern smartphone wouldn't exist without the iPhone.

Apple has gone from being a second-fiddle hardware / software maker to the single most valuable company in the world. Their innovations have disrupted the MP3 player player world, the music distribution world, and the smartphone world. They've now gone out and created an entire new market that didn't exist two years ago. Each of these new markets is adding up to the ultimate disruption -- the de-emphasis of the PC and laptop as the center of your digital world.

 

[darkewaffle]

Again...

I wanted a laptop that wasn't plastic, wouldn't look like crap in a year, had a good warranty, and was built simply so if I did need to replace something, I could easily. I'm not sure about you, but I took apart a Gateway notebook. After taking apart 3 layers of crap to get to an inaccessable fan to blow out the dust, it took me 6 hours to put it back correctly, after about 60 screws. All PC notebooks are built like this.

Unlike Apple, simple, elegant, well built and good looking.

If this was so "easy", why hasn't any other company built a notebook like it? HP Envy - half plastic. IBM - half plastic. Asus - half plastic. Dell - none.

Same with the iPod. No other company has been able to come up with a good quality product that isn't a plastic POS. Every iPod I've ever had still works, including my iPod I bought in 2003.

That's not true of my Mom's iRiver or my brother's Rio.

Further, nobody has been able to integrate the player with the software and get the music industry contracts like Apple. Nobody has been able to replicate the apps store like Apple.

They may have not been first in both areas, but they certainly have made them far better and appealing to the masses.

I can take apart my old Inspiron with my eyes closed and right now there's a thread here in offtopic about a guy being forced to pay $400 to replace a MBP keyboard because of the unibody construction and the difficulty of doing it himself. Also I'm on my third iPod because the first one holds no charge and the LCD on the second one 'bled' from just sitting in my pocket, and it is admittedly on it's last legs. Not to mention iPod #2 and #3 have had persistent freezing issues, luckily they've all been gifts so far lol, but when I replace #3 I'll certainly be looking at both Apple and other options.

And software tends to be one of Apple's bigger weaknesses, I'd much rather they -didn't- integrate so much. Thank god you can use Winamp to manage an iPod or I'd never consider another one.

Everyone's had their own experiences, in general they make pretty good products but I think they don't sit on quite as high a pedestal as some folks put them on.

 

[Meghan54]

So, the question is without Jobs and his influence, will Apple become what happened to Sony.

Surely you remember when Sony was in Apple's position, don't you? Remember the Walkman? Was sort of like the iPod in market dominance. Then the two founders, Akio Morita and Masaru Ibuka, who combined to serve a role much like Jobs', were gone and look what resulted. Sony is now essentially a rudderless mess.

Is Apple going to end up the same? Time will tell.

 

[SP33Demon]

???? You mean Andriod tablet's that cost just as much as an iPad?

Um, Mapquest is a free turn by turn navigation app for the iPhone. I use it all the time.

edit - I need to drive down to Newport, RI this weekend. I used google first for directions and it gave me crappy directions to go down there, MapQuest provided me with multiple options that were all better.



If you combine all Andriod manufacturers, not a single one alone has surpassed Apple.

a) Didn't know Apple had free apps for navigation, so thank you for that.
b) Mapquest's app for Android is absolute sht compared to Google Navigation. Very sorry that you are stuck using Mapquest. America Online is awesome!
c) Android has surpassed iOS and every 1 in 2 phones in the world uses Android at 52%. 31.7% for Apple. How is that for "surpassing"?

 

[KlokWyze]

Again...

I wanted a laptop that wasn't plastic, wouldn't look like crap in a year, had a good warranty, and was built simply so if I did need to replace something, I could easily. I'm not sure about you, but I took apart a Gateway notebook. After taking apart 3 layers of crap to get to an inaccessable fan to blow out the dust, it took me 6 hours to put it back correctly, after about 60 screws. All PC notebooks are built like this.

Unlike Apple, simple, elegant, well built and good looking.

If this was so "easy", why hasn't any other company built a notebook like it? HP Envy - half plastic. IBM - half plastic. Asus - half plastic. Dell - none.

Same with the iPod. No other company has been able to come up with a good quality product that isn't a plastic POS. Every iPod I've ever had still works, including my iPod I bought in 2003.

That's not true of my Mom's iRiver or my brother's Rio.

Further, nobody has been able to integrate the player with the software and get the music industry contracts like Apple. Nobody has been able to replicate the apps store like Apple.

They may have not been first in both areas, but they certainly have made them far better and appealing to the masses.

Apple's hardware leaves a lot to be desired, IF you want quality new hardware for a reasonable price. This includes the desktops, laptops & pocket trinkets (the iPads are nice). The iPods are complete fucking garbage sold at insane prices. They are shit. They then attempt to force you into using their complete shit iTunes software. NICE. This isn't fanboy hate, it's just former customer dissatisfaction.

Cheapo Sansa MP3 players are infinitely better w/ better sound quality. They are 1/10 the price. FFS.

Apple's level of success is purely through marketing to people who want hip computer products. Not saying all of their customer are hipster scum, just the majority.

 

[Ichinisan]

If I had as much $$ as SJ, I'd try to find a way to transplant a human brain.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

If this was so "easy", why hasn't any other company built a notebook like it? HP Envy - half plastic. IBM - half plastic. Asus - half plastic. Dell - none.

In the case of Lenovo the exterior is plastic because it is more durable than Aluminum. Sure it may not be as pretty but a ThinkPad will hold up to abuse that would destroy a Macbook Pro. Plus if the need ever arises I could replace the keyboard on a ThinkPad for less than $50 and five minutes of my time vs $400 and sending it in to the shop for a Macbook Pro.

 

[SP33Demon]

Again...

I wanted a laptop that wasn't plastic, wouldn't look like crap in a year, had a good warranty, and was built simply so if I did need to replace something, I could easily. I'm not sure about you, but I took apart a Gateway notebook. After taking apart 3 layers of crap to get to an inaccessable fan to blow out the dust, it took me 6 hours to put it back correctly, after about 60 screws. All PC notebooks are built like this.

Unlike Apple, simple, elegant, well built and good looking.

If this was so "easy", why hasn't any other company built a notebook like it? HP Envy - half plastic. IBM - half plastic. Asus - half plastic. Dell - none.

Same with the iPod. No other company has been able to come up with a good quality product that isn't a plastic POS. Every iPod I've ever had still works, including my iPod I bought in 2003.

That's not true of my Mom's iRiver or my brother's Rio.

Further, nobody has been able to integrate the player with the software and get the music industry contracts like Apple. Nobody has been able to replicate the apps store like Apple.

They may have not been first in both areas, but they certainly have made them far better and appealing to the masses.

If you want anecdotal evidence, my Dell laptop from 2004 is still doing fine. Not my fault you bought a POS Gateway from a company that had its warranties all fcked up and had to be rescued by Acer.

My iPod was a POS that I had to return twice to be fixed. I ended up giving it to a cousin and just use my phone.

An apps store like Apple? Android Market is great. iTunes, yes it does secure its share of exclusive music but that's the only thing I've ever used it for. Rhapsody is perfectly fine (and cheaper) for regular releases. So I do agree that certain artists do offer exclusive live music only through iTunes. That's all it's good for though, but how long did it take Apple to remove DRM from their mp3s? And what about the DRM still on their movies?

I'm not disputing that they have improved certain areas of the digital landscape. But you're making them (and Steve Jobs) sound like demigods for capitalizing on a trend and making money off of it (mp3players, tablets). They didn't reinvent anything, they made it better for busy, non technical people who don't care about price or shopping around for the best deal. They simplify tech for rich, busy people and they are good at it.

 

[cheezy321]

Apple's hardware leaves a lot to be desired, IF you want quality new hardware for a reasonable price. This includes the desktops, laptops & pocket trinkets (the iPads are nice). The iPods are complete fucking garbage sold at insane prices. They are shit. They then attempt to force you into using their complete shit iTunes software. NICE. This isn't fanboy hate, it's just former customer dissatisfaction.

Cheapo Sansa MP3 players are infinitely better w/ better sound quality. They are 1/10 the price. FFS.

Apple's level of success is purely through marketing to people who want hip computer products. Not saying all of their customer are hipster scum, just the majority.

The definition of irony: Someone recommends an MP3 player that is a complete copy of the MP3 player they say is garbage.

I bet you think the polystation is better than the playstation too. lol.

Sansa MP3 player for those who want to see a visual:

 

[SP33Demon]

The definition of irony: Someone recommends an MP3 player that is a complete copy of the MP3 player they say is garbage.

I bet you think the polystation is better than the playstation too. lol.

Sansa MP3 player for those who want to see a visual:

I bet my phone has more memory than both the iPod and Sansa.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

c) Android has surpassed iOS and every 1 in 2 phones in the world uses Android at 52%. 31.7% for Apple. How is that for "surpassing"?

the iphone up until recently was only available as 1 model on 1 carrier.

android is available in thousands of different models on every carrier, at lower price points.
pretty obvious it's going to have a larger market share.

 

[darkewaffle]

The definition of irony: Someone recommends an MP3 player that is a complete copy of the MP3 player they say is garbage.

I bet you think the polystation is better than the playstation too. lol.

Sansa MP3 player for those who want to see a visual:

Isn't that like half of the Apple praise in here though? Taking previous ideas, polishing it and turning it into a hot ticket? One of the famous Jobs quotes is something to the extent that Apple is both shameless about, and great at, stealing ideas.

If he likes the Sansa, great. iPod's have some good features but they are far, far from flawless.