STICKY: ATi 5xxx pre-release thread

[Janooo]

Confirmed by Hardware-Infos.

Courtesy of Thilan29: NEW MODEL...5870 SIX.

Thanks Nitro!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=234555
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=11135
http://www.brightsideofnews.co...-pricing-revealed.aspx
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15433/1/
http://bbs.chiphell.com/viewth...d=53938&extra=page%3D1
http://www.techradar.com/news/...yefinity-review-634244
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkwVw-azZ0M
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1069/1/">http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1069/1/</a>
http://forums.overclockers.co....php?t=18043396&page=50
http://news.ati-forum.de/index...-weitere-informationen
http://vr-zone.com/articles/ju...750/7626.html?doc=7626
http://www.techpowerup.com/103...HD_5870__Stripped.html
http://www.microsofttranslator...et/content-967094.html
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...=4013176&postcount=787
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...=4012963&postcount=751
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...=4013290&postcount=820
http://www.czechgamer.com/novi...hmarky-jsou-venku.html
http://venturebeat.com/2009/09...six-computer-displays/
http://i31.tinypic.com/oho6qa.png
http://i28.tinypic.com/2gt16v5.png
http://i26.tinypic.com/sqt3yp.png
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://i32.tinypic.com/58it1.png">http://i32.tinypic.com/58it1.png</a>
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dMyeMKHp4">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dMyeMKHp4</a>
http://forum.beyond3d.com/show...1335370&postcount=3179
http://gathering.tweakers.net/...sage/32587278#32587278
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/801/58it1.png
http://www.videokonsolu.com/?p=1260
http://www.videokonsolu.com/?p=1252


Images:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2553/54865033.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8061/42292063.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1933/76612387.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2081/33210077.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1443/37208259.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7362/in3b.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2705/in2.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2173/in5.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1066/in6z.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6951/pn8.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1949/in7m.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/vpavih.jpg
http://upshizzle.com/gallery/a.../October_2008/xfx1.jpg
http://www.xfxforce.com/ecms.a...HD5870_3-4_md-copy.jpg



I've sticked this to stop duplicates.

Video Mod BFG10K.

Locked due to review thread replacing this.

Video Mod BFG10K.

 

[SlowSpyder]

It looks like they are quoting Semiaccurate.com as a source as well as unnamed others. I'm still waiting for something more concrete.

 

[thilanliyan]

If it's twice as fast as 4870 1GB that's pretty good I suppose.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Janooo
Confirmed by Hardware-Infos.

Although I believe the info is true, really all they are doing is quoting semi-accurate.

 

[ArizonaSteve]

Count me in for a 2GB 5870...

EDIT: Can't get my model numbers right!

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: ArizonaSteve
Count me in for a 2GB 5780...

Count me too :thumbsup:

 

[yacoub]

And no doubt an 80db fan and 90C temp.

I'm so tired of the loud, hot GPUs ATI's released the last several generations, particularly given their smaller die sizes. I'd hate to have to declock it to get it to run at what I feel is an acceptable temperature. Oh well. Whoever makes a quieter, more effective hsf to attach to ATI cards should make a fortune.

 

[dguy6789]

Loud and hot? The cards are either loud and cold or silent and hot based on the reference design and fan speed of your choosing. I don't see the purpose behind complaining about high temperatures either. Regardless of your cooling device, the card produces the same amount of heat. ATI says it's okay for the cards to run at temperatures you consider hot, so it's okay to run them at those temperatures. Too many people assume that hot to the touch = too hot for the hardware.

 

[yacoub]

On the contrary, too many people just accept that it's okay to run it at 90C all day long and then complain when it locks up in a game or exhibits other instability. Or wonder why their card dies after 6-8 months of use. Or wonder why other components that never had problems before, now overheat because of the heat output by the new GPU in their case.

YOU may not care about any of that - and in fact they're banking on most people not caring about that - but I do. And so I will always factor into my GPU choice how loud it is and what temps it runs at. And as part of that, i will look into what alternatives are available for cooling said cards. Such that, if there's a superb aftermarket air cooler that's quiet and enables the card to run significantly cooler, I will likely buy it and enjoy the same GPU without the noise or the heat. =)

 

[Forumpanda]

I agree, specially given that the lifespan of a graphics card is usually (and presumably even more so on this forum) quite often less than 5 years, I really do not see the point in trying to keep it super cool at the cost of noise.

I always turn my GPU fanspeed down to the point where it is inaudible and in the last 10 years I cannot think of any card that died because of it.
In fact the only times I have seen a dead card is when the fan died (which presumably will wear out faster if it spins faster).

Unless someone can point me to contrary evidence I consider a slow fanspeed to be more likely to increase the lifetime of my card, as the fan is the only moving (and most likely to fail) part of the card.

I also don't know where you get 90C from, most of my cards hover around 40-50C idle and 70-80C full load with an inaudible fan.
Now if only I could get TB sized SSDs at an affordable price so I didn't have to deal with HD drive noise I'd be happy.

 

[thilanliyan]

NEW MODEL...5870 SIX:
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,9887.html

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
Loud and hot? The cards are either loud and cold or silent and hot based on the reference design and fan speed of your choosing. I don't see the purpose behind complaining about high temperatures either. Regardless of your cooling device, the card produces the same amount of heat. ATI says it's okay for the cards to run at temperatures you consider hot, so it's okay to run them at those temperatures. Too many people assume that hot to the touch = too hot for the hardware.

I think the point he might be trying to make is that modern graphics cards are very hot and stock coolers are not very good. Both of which are valid. Some of us with cooler ambient temperatures and high air flow gaming cases can use stock video card coolers without a problem. But for those of us who live in some desert on the 2nd floor cooling can be a serious issue and the stock cooler may barely cut it.

ATi may say it is okay for the card to run at 80C all the time, but that isn't my happy plan. I'm sure it would go its entire product life cycle at 80C without a hitch, but I might care about keeping my card longer than ATi thinks I should. Hell I still use my 6800gt video card when someone comes over and we want to play games.

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: yacoub
On the contrary, too many people just accept that it's okay to run it at 90C all day long and then complain when it locks up in a game or exhibits other instability. Or wonder why their card dies after 6-8 months of use. Or wonder why other components that never had problems before, now overheat because of the heat output by the new GPU in their case.

YOU may not care about any of that - and in fact they're banking on most people not caring about that - but I do. And so I will always factor into my GPU choice how loud it is and what temps it runs at. And as part of that, i will look into what alternatives are available for cooling said cards. Such that, if there's a superb aftermarket air cooler that's quiet and enables the card to run significantly cooler, I will likely buy it and enjoy the same GPU without the noise or the heat. =)

But they don't lock up in games or exhibit instability. They don't die after 6-8 months of use. I never had problems with them before and still don't now. What are you trying to say? Don't blame user error on hardware.

The problem is you are assuming you know more about the hardware than the manufacturer. Because 90C seems hot to you, it absolutely must be too hot for the card, because you say so. You make this decision without any kind of evidence what so ever. The card could be rated to run at 90C for 10 years for all you know. If ATI says it isn't too hot, then it isn't too hot.

You are using the understanding that cooler temps = longer life, which is mostly true. But you arbitrarily(huge emphasis on that one) draw the line at a temperature you picked entirely at random and not one which is proven to be a significant mark you should reach to increase stability or extend the life of the card by a large margin.

 

[Barfo]

Can't wait for benchmarks.

 

[Janooo]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
It looks like they are quoting Semiaccurate.com as a source as well as unnamed others. I'm still waiting for something more concrete.

That's the thing, there are more sources talking the same numbers now.
When you tune to some internet noise you can hear 2.6TF for 5870.

 

[Grabo]

As maybe already posted on chiphell a couple of weeks back or so, and just referred to in the thread at beyond3d : http://gathering.tweakers.net/.../view_message/32550799 (sorry if repost; didn't see it myself before :/ )

Seems like perhaps a tad long, aah, i'm sure it can fit snugly in my sff..

 

[Tempered81]

pics:
http://gathering.tweakers.net/.../view_message/32550799

 

[Grabo]

Haha and 81 may even imply we were born in the same year..there is ..something occult in the air.

 

[Tempered81]

weeeiirrddd. you weren't born in august were you?

 

[dguy6789]

Cool pictures. I'm a big fan of the designs that exhaust air outside of the case.

 

[Grabo]

No..but march is #3...*2...+1 = ..7..ooooOoooOooo..

Ditto on the dumping-hot-air-outside comment.

 

[MarcVenice]

Tweakers.net is the website I write for, but it wasn't me leaking those foto's. I've got a feeling I know who did though The question is, are they real ^^

People waiting for leaked benchmarks, I got a HD 5870 sitting on my desk, not because it looks so pretty, but because there's no drivers. So if some1 would want to leak them, it's going to take some time.

 

[Tempered81]

Woot, go marc! perhaps an edited .inf, or mobility modder? hahah. Seriously though I think it requires an entirely new driver model, with first official in cat 9.10.

 

[Dkcode]

Those pictures would contradict these:

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/49fe...PDcY8DnGtuLUb/full.jpg

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: Dkcode
Those pictures would contradict these:

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/49fe...PDcY8DnGtuLUb/full.jpg

As far as I recall, that wasn't supposed to be a picture of the 5870, but of a mainstream 5XXX card.