Originally posted by: Dkcode
Those pictures would contradict these:
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/49fe...PDcY8DnGtuLUb/full.jpg
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
It looks like they are quoting Semiaccurate.com as a source as well as unnamed others. I'm still waiting for something more concrete.
Originally posted by: dguy6789
Originally posted by: Dkcode
Those pictures would contradict these:
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/49fe...PDcY8DnGtuLUb/full.jpg
As far as I recall, that wasn't supposed to be a picture of the 5870, but of a mainstream 5XXX card.
Originally posted by: MarcVenice
People waiting for leaked benchmarks, I got a HD 5870 sitting on my desk, not because it looks so pretty, but because there's no drivers. So if some1 would want to leak them, it's going to take some time.
Originally posted by: yacoub
On the contrary, too many people just accept that it's okay to run it at 90C all day long and then complain when it locks up in a game or exhibits other instability. Or wonder why their card dies after 6-8 months of use. Or wonder why other components that never had problems before, now overheat because of the heat output by the new GPU in their case.
YOU may not care about any of that - and in fact they're banking on most people not caring about that - but I do. And so I will always factor into my GPU choice how loud it is and what temps it runs at. And as part of that, i will look into what alternatives are available for cooling said cards. Such that, if there's a superb aftermarket air cooler that's quiet and enables the card to run significantly cooler, I will likely buy it and enjoy the same GPU without the noise or the heat. =)
Originally posted by: Kakkoii
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
It looks like they are quoting Semiaccurate.com as a source as well as unnamed others. I'm still waiting for something more concrete.
Wrong. It's ChipHell, of which is where Charlie at SA got his info.
http://www.chiphell.com/2009/0807/93.html
And ChipHell is usually right.
A few weeks ago there were reports of another member of AMD's graphics card family Evergreen. The card was code-named Trillian and would not use a special GPU but instead be a very special model. There were talks about three graphics processor but more likely it would be a card with extra display outputs. We have learned that the card will be called Radeon HD 5870 Six and support no less than six monitors, all with 3D functionality.
Many are perhaps wondering how AMD managed to fit no less than six display outputs on the back of the same graphics card. The answer is DisplayPort, or more precise Mini DisplayPort.
The interface, used quite frequently by Apple, supports resolutions up to 2560x1600 pixels through a connector that is only a fraction of the size of a regular DVI output.
The 3D support across multiple monitors have been improved significantly with the coming Evergreen family and Radeon HD 5870 Six will take this to a whole new level. Theoretically you could connect six monitors to one and the same graphics card, with tailored resolutions. Something that should not only appeal to simulator fans but also regular gamers, or why not just use it run of the mill applications.
According to the info we received all cards of the Evergreen family will work a lot better with multiple monitors, something we're truly looking forward to seeing more of. AMD has talked about better support for multiple monitors for many years, and finally it's happening, and the exact shape and form will be revealed soon.
We can also confirm the price information on Radeon HD 5850 and Radeon HD 5870, and they will be 299USD and 399USD respectively.
Even if we don't have any benchmarks to share, we have it on good authority that AMD's new Radeon HD 5800 series will bring between 25-40% better performance than current generation, depending on games and application.
The card will use 1GB GDDR5 memory but 2GB models are to be expected. We have learned a bit about the overclocking potential and it seems the 40nm technology has matured well. There are talks about overclocking to 1GHz GPU with the reference cooler, which is on par with the current flagship Radeon HD 4890 in terms of overclocking ability.
We hope to learn more about AMD's Evergreen family soon, very soon, and we will be covering the launch of the first DirectX 11 graphics cards. A launch where performance and features are almost equally important.
Originally posted by: Tempered81
the nordic story thilan posted got pulled, but here it is:
*snip*
Originally posted by: dguy6789
Originally posted by: yacoub
On the contrary, too many people just accept that it's okay to run it at 90C all day long and then complain when it locks up in a game or exhibits other instability. Or wonder why their card dies after 6-8 months of use. Or wonder why other components that never had problems before, now overheat because of the heat output by the new GPU in their case.
YOU may not care about any of that - and in fact they're banking on most people not caring about that - but I do. And so I will always factor into my GPU choice how loud it is and what temps it runs at. And as part of that, i will look into what alternatives are available for cooling said cards. Such that, if there's a superb aftermarket air cooler that's quiet and enables the card to run significantly cooler, I will likely buy it and enjoy the same GPU without the noise or the heat. =)
But they don't lock up in games or exhibit instability. They don't die after 6-8 months of use. I never had problems with them before and still don't now. What are you trying to say? Don't blame user error on hardware.
The problem is you are assuming you know more about the hardware than the manufacturer. Because 90C seems hot to you, it absolutely must be too hot for the card, because you say so. You make this decision without any kind of evidence what so ever. The card could be rated to run at 90C for 10 years for all you know. If ATI says it isn't too hot, then it isn't too hot.
You are using the understanding that cooler temps = longer life, which is mostly true. But you arbitrarily(huge emphasis on that one) draw the line at a temperature you picked entirely at random and not one which is proven to be a significant mark you should reach to increase stability or extend the life of the card by a large margin.
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: dguy6789
Originally posted by: yacoub
On the contrary, too many people just accept that it's okay to run it at 90C all day long and then complain when it locks up in a game or exhibits other instability. Or wonder why their card dies after 6-8 months of use. Or wonder why other components that never had problems before, now overheat because of the heat output by the new GPU in their case.
YOU may not care about any of that - and in fact they're banking on most people not caring about that - but I do. And so I will always factor into my GPU choice how loud it is and what temps it runs at. And as part of that, i will look into what alternatives are available for cooling said cards. Such that, if there's a superb aftermarket air cooler that's quiet and enables the card to run significantly cooler, I will likely buy it and enjoy the same GPU without the noise or the heat. =)
But they don't lock up in games or exhibit instability. They don't die after 6-8 months of use. I never had problems with them before and still don't now. What are you trying to say? Don't blame user error on hardware.
The problem is you are assuming you know more about the hardware than the manufacturer. Because 90C seems hot to you, it absolutely must be too hot for the card, because you say so. You make this decision without any kind of evidence what so ever. The card could be rated to run at 90C for 10 years for all you know. If ATI says it isn't too hot, then it isn't too hot.
You are using the understanding that cooler temps = longer life, which is mostly true. But you arbitrarily(huge emphasis on that one) draw the line at a temperature you picked entirely at random and not one which is proven to be a significant mark you should reach to increase stability or extend the life of the card by a large margin.
:thumbsup:
A manufacturer has no desire to warranty products if it does not have to. If they sold cards to run at temperatures that were unsafe, they would fail prematurely and all profits made selling the cards would be lost through RMA fees, such as shipping, labor to test and ship out the new cards. If ATI lied to their partners, it would only work once before partners left ATI and they went out of business due to lack of partners. It is in ATI's and their partners best interest to sell you a total package that can and will last through the typical warranty period.
Bottom line - If a card comes stock and runs at 90c, it is safe and there is no reason to worry. Your room will NOT heat up anymore than it would with a larger cooler, which some people still seem to think. The wattage output is the same regardless. So other than being bothered that the silicon is running hot should be of no difference to most people - it can handle it.
Originally posted by: Pelu
the 1600 rops or whatever the name is is a bunch of lies... it only have 320...
Originally posted by: yacoub
And no doubt an 80db fan and 90C temp.
I'm so tired of the loud, hot GPUs ATI's released the last several generations, particularly given their smaller die sizes. I'd hate to have to declock it to get it to run at what I feel is an acceptable temperature. Oh well. Whoever makes a quieter, more effective hsf to attach to ATI cards should make a fortune.
Originally posted by: LifesABeta
...and here's some details http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=11135
cannot wait to see what the 5870x2 is going to offer!