STICKY: ATi 5xxx pre-release thread

[MarcVenice]

Dunno if you are into race sims, or even flight sims, but you should REALLY give it a try. When I saw the six display setup running hawx, I said, those bezels suck. Hence I wouldn't go for a 3x setup. But a 3x setup, where the screens on the sides are you left/right window of a car, is on my wishlist right now. In a shooter it would work as well. I mean, the middle screen will be like you ALWAYS have been playing an FPS, the screens on the side are just extra information. I just hope it works with dual HD 5870's, coz I'll need the power

 

[Dkcode]

More pictures in this thread.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

For once I agree fully with Keys ^^

Personally I think screens in general (be it TVs or whatever) are reaaaaally outdated... I mean, considering how much other technologies have improved the past years

Of course I have no idea how it works etc, so it might be possible that its much harder to advance in that area compared to video cards or processors etc, but the fact is, they are way behind the times

 

[Minas]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
For once I agree fully with Keys ^^

Personally I think screens in general (be it TVs or whatever) are reaaaaally outdated... I mean, considering how much other technologies have improved the past years

Of course I have no idea how it works etc, so it might be possible that its much harder to advance in that area compared to video cards or processors etc, but the fact is, they are way behind the times

I guess we can be hopeful that developments like this, bringing multipanel support to mainstream, will put sufficient commercial pressure on monitor manufacturers to improve.

 

[Qbah]

Originally posted by: Blazer7

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: dguy6789
Multiple monitors is not even close to a replacement to a bigger monitor unless the borders are gone. It'd rather have one 30" than three 24" screens for gaming.

Yep I have to agree!...it would annoy me too with those borders,so a nice big single monitor anytime for me,as to the HD58xx etc well its looking good, it'll be interesting to see how the pricing and spec battle goes between AMD and Nvidia with their DX11 range.

What borders? 4 of these -> Samsung 46" ultra thin bezel and you're set!

This screen looks sooo slick! :thumbsup: I'd love to get me one of them! Too bad I already have a TV I'm happy about (I would be happier with this one though ).

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: Blazer7

Originally posted by: Mem

Originally posted by: dguy6789
Multiple monitors is not even close to a replacement to a bigger monitor unless the borders are gone. It'd rather have one 30" than three 24" screens for gaming.

Yep I have to agree!...it would annoy me too with those borders,so a nice big single monitor anytime for me,as to the HD58xx etc well its looking good, it'll be interesting to see how the pricing and spec battle goes between AMD and Nvidia with their DX11 range.

What borders? 4 of these -> Samsung 46" ultra thin bezel and you're set!

As Keys said they still suck,I remember my old Trinitron CRT with damper wires and that even annoyed me too ,so much that I went with damper wire free monitor, so bezels which are even bigger then that no matter how thin would annoy me in a multiple setup,one big monitor is what I would be happy with.

I can see how its a personal preference thing but I know which way I would go.

 

[Janooo]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Originally posted by: Janooo

Four cards rendering 55 Megapixels.

Does it mean the AFR is gone?

Not necessarily. When rendering Eyefinity the system could still be doing AFR but rendering to a single giant framebuffer.

I?m not that fussed on Eyefinity actually; what?s more significant is the fact that even a single card is able to push enough pixels to drive multiple displays at acceptable performance levels. This bodes well for 2560x1600 gaming on a single display.

I am not so sure if one card can provide playable framerates for 11520x4800 resolution.
Four cards doing 4 way AFR? It does not make sense.
It just could be that SFR or super tiling is back.

 

[BFG10K]

Originally posted by: Janooo

I am not so sure if one card can provide playable framerates for 11520x4800 resolution.

Where did I say it was one card? I said single cards could do 7680x3200 with good performance, but that wasn?t even in response to your comment.

Four cards doing 4 way AFR? It does not make sense.

Four cards do AFR now and this is no different. It?s just a resolution; monitor count is irrelevant.

Each card can have a 11520x4800 frame buffer and the four cards alternate between rendering frames.

It just could be that SFR or super tiling is back.

It?s possible, but AFR is by no means impossible or even unlikely. In fact AFR is more desirable because it?s faster.

That and splitting frames according to monitor count would be tricky since there?s no necessary correlation between GPU count and monitor count (e.g. how would you evenly split three screens onto four GPUs?)

 

[n7]

I'm mainly excited to be able to do three displays natively on one video card (no need for multiple).

And all three simultaneously.

This is huge to me, as i've been using more than one display forever now.

I'd like to have my 30" + my two 20" in portrait alongside for 4960x1600 , & Eyefinity makes this doable if i understand correctly.

 

[bryanW1995]

I've never played a flight sim or a modern racing game ( I don't count Enduro on Atari as "modern") so I personally would probably also find the breaks between monitors very annoying, but I think it's telling that marcvenice is the only person who's actually used it and he's clearly a big fan now.

I wonder what my wife would say if I got 3 monitors to play civ iv? hmmmm...

 

[T2k]

Originally posted by: yacoub
On the contrary, too many people just accept that it's okay to run it at 90C all day long and then complain when it locks up in a game or exhibits other instability. Or wonder why their card dies after 6-8 months of use. Or wonder why other components that never had problems before, now overheat because of the heat output by the new GPU in their case.

YOU may not care about any of that - and in fact they're banking on most people not caring about that - but I do. And so I will always factor into my GPU choice how loud it is and what temps it runs at. And as part of that, i will look into what alternatives are available for cooling said cards. Such that, if there's a superb aftermarket air cooler that's quiet and enables the card to run significantly cooler, I will likely buy it and enjoy the same GPU without the noise or the heat. =)

You're almost literally CLUELESS - unless you're confusing Nvidia and ATI.

All my past NV cards were operating around 90C-100C during a game - with a screaming fan, mind you - but even my current 4850 X2 2GB BARELY reaches 70C when fan revs up during Clear Sky (DX10.1 game).

Stop spreading BS, please - as dguy6789 said it's either LOUD AND COLD or SILENT AND HOT with ATI.

 

[Compddd]

Do they have DVI to display port adapters? The majority of people with monitors don't have display port on them right?

 

[Pelu]

Originally posted by: Hauk
nVidia's response..

omg... that is the mother of all photoshops

 

[Janooo]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Originally posted by: Janooo

I am not so sure if one card can provide playable framerates for 11520x4800 resolution.

Where did I say it was one card? I said single cards could do 7680x3200 with good performance, but that wasn?t even in response to your comment.

No you did not but if this is AFR then one card has to handle 11520x4800 resolution.
I guess memory can become an issue here. Would you use 128MB card for 1920x1200? Because that's what it would be like when there are 24 monitors and we assume that they used 2GB cards.

Four cards doing 4 way AFR? It does not make sense.

Four cards do AFR now and this is no different. It?s just a resolution; monitor count is irrelevant.

Each card can have a 11520x4800 frame buffer and the four cards alternate between rendering frames.

It just could be that SFR or super tiling is back.

It?s possible, but AFR is by no means impossible or even unlikely. In fact AFR is more desirable because it?s faster.

That and splitting frames according to monitor count would be tricky since there?s no necessary correlation between GPU count and monitor count (e.g. how would you evenly split three screens onto four GPUs?)

4 lines or super tiling.

 

[Creig]

It looks like AMD may be going all out on the 5800 series. From what one person who attended the launch reported, the 5800 is going to introduce physics as well.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1450905

Originally posted by: The Cobra on Hardforums
I went to the USS Hornet in Alameda, CA (nice to see you again Kyle) the cards I saw (ATI 5870) should be out around the time windows 7 goes retail. The 5870 will be able to drive 3 30 inch monitors at the same time. I was one of 15 people to be dragged to the bowls of the ship and saw some really nice tech demos. ATI also is going open source with this product. Open CL and direct input. The physics were amazing as well. All Open CL originated. The Physics are going to be run on BOTH the GPU and CPU. Really nice scaling. I think nvidia is in trouble this round.

 

[Janooo]

Nice pictures here.

I updated the topic summary with info provided by one of the slides.

 

[Janooo]

Originally posted by: Creig
It looks like AMD may be going all out on the 5800 series. From what one person who attended the launch reported, the 5800 is going to introduce physics as well.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1450905

Originally posted by: The Cobra on Hardforums
I went to the USS Hornet in Alameda, CA (nice to see you again Kyle) the cards I saw (ATI 5870) should be out around the time windows 7 goes retail. The 5870 will be able to drive 3 30 inch monitors at the same time. I was one of 15 people to be dragged to the bowls of the ship and saw some really nice tech demos. ATI also is going open source with this product. Open CL and direct input. The physics were amazing as well. All Open CL originated. The Physics are going to be run on BOTH the GPU and CPU. Really nice scaling. I think nvidia is in trouble this round.

Open CL physics? Nice, I guess the battle is on.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I'm more impressed that the 58x0 card had enough horsepower to drive 6x30 monitors running a next gen DX11 game at playable frame rates. I would imagine this means for people like me with 1920x1200 res that would be childs play for a 58x0 card to create playable frame rates.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I am not interested in eyeinfinity. But The Apples open CL for pyphisics on the Cpu and GPU is great stuff. Now if AMD and Intel can figure out away to stop Havok Physics on Their CPUs when NV card is onboard, it would be a pertfect storm .
As it is the NV 300 had better be all NV is hyping as ATI isn't standing still GO ATI.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

As it is the NV 300 had better be all NV is hyping as ATI isn't standing still GO ATI.

Links to all the hype nV is putting out for GT300?

 

[T2k]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I am not interested in eyeinfinity. But The Apples open CL for pyphisics on the Cpu and GPU is great stuff. Now if AMD and Intel can figure out away to stop Havok Physics on Their CPUs when NV card is onboard, it would be a pertfect storm .
As it is the NV 300 had better be all NV is hyping as ATI isn't standing still GO ATI.

Aside of the random CaPitAl LetTErS I swear to God I'm trying hard to make something out of these words but they DO NOT COMPUTE...


...seriously, dude: WTF? :shocked:

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

As it is the NV 300 had better be all NV is hyping as ATI isn't standing still GO ATI.

Links to all the hype nV is putting out for GT300?

There are none. He hallucinated them.

 

[Janooo]

So 5770 should be 1.6x of 4770.

HD 5770 card is codenamed Countach while HD 5750 is codenamed Corvette and they both come with 1GB GDDR5 memories on 128-bit memory interface.

Is AMD selling cars now or what?

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

As it is the NV 300 had better be all NV is hyping as ATI isn't standing still GO ATI.

Links to all the hype nV is putting out for GT300?

The supposed Huge ASS KIcking post that have plagued this forum for 3 nonths . You know the one were NV says one thing than changes names of the 200 series to 300 series . You been here awhile . You even took part in those post here at AT. So get your own links to the Great NV 300 .

Its funny ATIs R300 was a game changer. NV 5900 stunk place up . Can't wait for ATi 5900 it should kick ass. NV 300 had better be good really good. Or ATI will have turned the tables on the 5900 and 300 series cards for ATI/NV . ATI making a great 5900 and NV making a stinky 300.

Live with it until NV shows something , Nv go to back of BUS .

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: T2k

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I am not interested in eyeinfinity. But The Apples open CL for pyphisics on the Cpu and GPU is great stuff. Now if AMD and Intel can figure out away to stop Havok Physics on Their CPUs when NV card is onboard, it would be a pertfect storm .
As it is the NV 300 had better be all NV is hyping as ATI isn't standing still GO ATI.

Aside of the random CaPitAl LetTErS I swear to God I'm trying hard to make something out of these words but they DO NOT COMPUTE...


...seriously, dude: WTF? :shocked:

Funny . neighbor kids were outside playing . So I called in one . He was 9 . He read it with zero problems . On the other hand he struggled with your comment because it didn't hold up to eyes that perfection as seen by 9 year old . He says you have a problem . LOL