Stop by police. I crack my window open. Officer tells me to roll it down all the way

[JEDI]

stopped for speeding (+18 in a 65zone).

I cracked the window open because its cold outside. (it's Jan.)
he tell me to roll it down. I comply.

i have nothing to hide. i'm guilty and will pay the fine.

but I got the feeling I could have refused his order???

 

[Printer Bandit]

never talk to cops.

 

[SMOGZINN]

You could have, and he could have decided you needed a roadside body cavity search.

 

[Specop 007]

Just about the worst people you can try to fuck with are the police. You may win the war, but you will always, always lose the fight.

 

[Lean L]

stopped for speeding (+18 in a 65zone).

I cracked the window open because its cold outside. (it's Jan.)
he tell me to roll it down. I comply.

i have nothing to hide. i'm guilty and will pay the fine.

but I got the feeling I could have refused his order???

It's more of a thing that makes his life easier. You're right that you could have... but tread lightly as, if you're rude about it, you have yourself to blame if now there's probable cause to search your car... (I know... ATOT keep your panties on, I'm talking reality, not theory.)

In the end, it was simply an inconvenience for you that wasn't worth the trouble of finding out the alternative. Consider your own time saved. You only had to pay with a few mins of coldness.

 

[Jeeebus]

There is (presumably) no law in your state requiring you to roll your window down all the way, as I've never heard of any such law in any state. That said, unless you had a camera filming at the time, I would probably advise you to just follow his request as cops have a tendency to go apeshit ballistic when someone dares not comply.

I'm all for flexing rights, but if you're doing to without some means to keep the cop accountable, you're asking for trouble.

 

[Pardus]

stopped for speeding (+18 in a 65zone).

I cracked the window open because its cold outside. (it's Jan.)
he tell me to roll it down. I comply.

i have nothing to hide. i'm guilty and will pay the fine.

but I got the feeling I could have refused his order???

roll the windows up, get out the car, lock your doors and then talk to the cop.

 

[CountZero]

I doubt you could have refused and not had any repercussions. At the very least it would give the cop reasonable suspicion of maybe alcohol on the breath, pot in the car or just the idea that maybe you are hiding something. Cop has the right to order you out of the vehicle if they believe it will make them safer. If they make you get out of the car the odds of getting just a warning went away completely and the odds of them looking for anything else to nail you with just went up.

Now in a cold place I would hazard to guess a reasonable cop would realize why you are doing it and not do anything about it but if it were me and they asked me to roll down all the way I would do it.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

roll the windows up, get out the car, lock your doors and then talk to the cop.

Wanna know how I know you've never done this or been arrested either?

 

[Kadarin]

roll the windows up, get out the car, lock your doors and then talk to the cop.

Sounds like a good way to get shot by said cop.

 

[JEDIYoda]

roll the windows up, get out the car, lock your doors and then talk to the cop.

that is such idiotic advice....all you are doing is provoking the cop! If the cop did not ask you to get out of your car and you do so anyways, well your the one who is going to suffer!!

 

[Scotteq]

roll the windows up, get out the car, lock your doors and then talk to the cop.

and I guarantee (s)he will not like that At All. That's a great way to get a strong reaction.

As long as you're in your car, it's pretty much just a question of whether or not you get a Ticket. If you are taken out at any time for a more detailed roadside chat... then Things Have Changed, and not at all for the better.


As a matter of fact, please watch this free Public Service Educational Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR465HoCWFQ

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Now in a cold place I would hazard to guess a reasonable cop would realize why you are doing it and not do anything about it but if it were me and they asked me to roll down all the way I would do it.

In a cold place the cop is standing outside in the weather without the benefit of a car heater and is FAR more uncomfortable than whoever is inside the car, even if the window is open. Doing anything to slow down the process will not go well for the driver.

 

[dud]

How many "I was pulled over by a cop" threads are you planning to start tonight?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2362921

 

[SandEagle]

How many "I was pulled over by a cop" threads are you planning to start tonight?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2362921

we need to document each case so that the public is aware. i plan to eventually compile all of these threads and upload them to my FTP site (F The Police site).

 

[Rakehellion]

stopped for speeding (+18 in a 65zone).

I cracked the window open because its cold outside. (it's Jan.)
he tell me to roll it down. I comply.

i have nothing to hide. i'm guilty and will pay the fine.

but I got the feeling I could have refused his order???

He would then ask you to step out of the car. You would have to comply.

 

[Jeff7]

You could have, and he could have decided you needed a roadside body cavity search.

And his hands probably would have been absolutely frigid. :'(

 

[zerocool84]

Acting like you've got something to hide is not smart when getting stopped by a cop. People who think they know the law better than cops are always the ones that end up saying don't tase me bro.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

I doubt you could have refused and not had any repercussions. At the very least it would give the cop reasonable suspicion of maybe alcohol on the breath, pot in the car or just the idea that maybe you are hiding something. Cop has the right to order you out of the vehicle if they believe it will make them safer. If they make you get out of the car the odds of getting just a warning went away completely and the odds of them looking for anything else to nail you with just went up.

Now in a cold place I would hazard to guess a reasonable cop would realize why you are doing it and not do anything about it but if it were me and they asked me to roll down all the way I would do it.

Not enough to be reasonable suspicion. The same way not letting the police search your home without a warrant is not considered reasonable suspicion.

They have the right to ask you to get out of the car and you have the right to refuse.

 

[JEDI]

Acting like you've got something to hide is not smart when getting stopped by a cop. People who think they know the law better than cops are always the ones that end up saying don't tase me bro.

didn't the 'don't tase me bro' guy win million$ in lawsuit?

 

[JEDI]

Not enough to be reasonable suspicion. The same way not letting the police search your home without a warrant is not considered reasonable suspicion.

They have the right to ask you to get out of the car and you have the right to refuse.

wait.. I can refuse to step out of the car when the police orders me to?!

so it's considered a police request and not an order?!?!?!

 

[SolMiester]

You could have, and he could have decided you needed a roadside body cavity search.

Do they not need grounds to do that over your way?....sounds a bit heavy handed of the law to me....

Sorry officer, I have a chest cold and are on my way to my GP\Pharmacy\Hospital. Ill keep the window where it is thank you very much.

 

[SSSnail]

If you get stopped by the police do the following:

1. Shut your engine off
2. Turn on your interior light
3. Roll the window down, whichever side the officer is approaching the vehicle
4. Place both hands on the steering wheel
5. Don't appear hostile - you don't know why you're stopped

You'll be surprised how many warnings you'll get instead of a ticket.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

didn't the 'don't tase me bro' guy win million$ in lawsuit?

Hell no. He got nothing but a night in jail and 18 months probation for being an asshole.

 

[Rakehellion]

stopped for speeding (+18 in a 65zone).

I cracked the window open because its cold outside. (it's Jan.)
he tell me to roll it down. I comply.

i have nothing to hide. i'm guilty and will pay the fine.

but I got the feeling I could have refused his order???

You tell the most boring cop stories. Come back when you're in a jail cell with a bloody nose and covered in vomit.