STOP Chinese Bear Farms!!

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ElFenix

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eating that high up on the food chain isn't particularly efficient.
 

eakers

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i think this is disgusting dont get me wrong

but there is such an outcry here about these bears meanwhile here we have puppy mills and even factory farms where things like this happen to other kinds of animals. for example, most chickens have their beaks cut off and are kept in small cages, one after the other, not able to move and htey just lay eggs. (they cut the beaks off so they can keep the chickens beside eachother and they wont peak at eachother). its quite disgusting how a lot of corporate farms operate in terms of animal conditions.

a lot of the products that we consume are brought up in terrible environments so its inappropriate to say its the "chinese" way because its apparent everywhere in the world.
 

metalmania

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It's sad. But poachers around the world are killing as many animals as they can every day just for money. I think many poachers are from the civilized western world.

There is culture conflict between east and west. Why do many Americans enjoy the Japanese Sushi? Don't they know some fishes are cut to pieces before they are dead?

I don't want the cruelty to animals, but I am not a vegetarian.

I hope this farm will be closed.
 

SSP

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Bluga
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Do you know how they prepare the dog meat in China? You know how meat gets better if you beat it? Apparently that applies to dogs as well. And it seems that the meat it extra-good if you beat it while the animal is still alive. So the dogs that they are about to eat are literally beaten to death with sticks. It "makes the meat better".

i think you're thinking of korea...

China. One of my co-workers spent 2 years in Shanghai. He told me about it.

so you "heard" about it. I spent 1 year traveling in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzohu and i never "heard" stuff like that.

i haven't spent a year there, but i still think it is a little suspect. maybe if your coworker had been spending time in the rural areas... but shanghai? i dunno


Actually he's right. When I said "its worse then dog farms" that?s what I was talking about (not the best way to put it I know). They import a special breed from the west (forgot the breed) and keep then in small cages. They are tortured so they produce adrenaline or something, which they say makes the meat taste better. The papers even had pictures of the dogs, it was sick.
 

Nemesis77

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Bluga
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Do you know how they prepare the dog meat in China? You know how meat gets better if you beat it? Apparently that applies to dogs as well. And it seems that the meat it extra-good if you beat it while the animal is still alive. So the dogs that they are about to eat are literally beaten to death with sticks. It "makes the meat better".

i think you're thinking of korea...

China. One of my co-workers spent 2 years in Shanghai. He told me about it.

so you "heard" about it. I spent 1 year traveling in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzohu and i never "heard" stuff like that.

i haven't spent a year there, but i still think it is a little suspect. maybe if your coworker had been spending time in the rural areas... but shanghai? i dunno

He was stationed in Shanghai, but I think he travelled around the country quite a bit.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: XCLAN
Originally posted by: forcesho
The "chinese" people always find illegal things to do..

yeah and us americans are such angels

ok seriously those quotes are driving me crazy.. i must know the reason for them!

uh anyways yea this bear stuff is sick... so is the dog stuff. but what can you do? uneducated people... not much you can do except educate them... not like "don't abuse animals" but i think in general, the more educated a person is, the more they will value life.
 

ManSnake

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Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Do you know how they prepare the dog meat in China? You know how meat gets better if you beat it? Apparently that applies to dogs as well. And it seems that the meat it extra-good if you beat it while the animal is still alive. So the dogs that they are about to eat are literally beaten to death with sticks. It "makes the meat better".

You got it all wrong! Chinese people don't like to eat meat with blood, so before they cut up the animal to cook, they first drain the blood! To the Chinese, meat with blood still in it is NASTY.
 

Vegito

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the quotes ? well u know, its also japanese/korean people too.. not just chinese..

you can't really blame the "chinese" people, they dont know western medicine, you must blame the government thats supressing them.. the government strictly brain wash them. The chinese people from china still think American are bad. Trust me, I seen it.. when the terrorist attack WTC, Chinese people, from china, in nyc were laughing their heads off, and to me, I just want to kick their F*#*#ing ass. No respect. They always think they're superior and they'll rule everything. I went to school with a bunch of asian people, japanese/korean people were cool, the taiwan always talk about defending their country and the chinese people just walk around pretending they're superior.. but thats just stony brook & nyc. so ur region may vary.

look people eat anything, look at fear factor, they eat disgusting stuff for money, some people in china are poor too, during certain times, they eat whatever they can get.. look at some of these canbalist in the US.. they exist, just not all of them been caught. People have been eating dogs and monkey for years, wake up, Some tribe in africa still eat people.
 

Nemesis77

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Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Do you know how they prepare the dog meat in China? You know how meat gets better if you beat it? Apparently that applies to dogs as well. And it seems that the meat it extra-good if you beat it while the animal is still alive. So the dogs that they are about to eat are literally beaten to death with sticks. It "makes the meat better".

You got it all wrong! Chinese people don't like to eat meat with blood, so before they cut up the animal to cook, they first drain the blood! To the Chinese, meat with blood still in it is NASTY.

They can't drain the boold after the animal has been killed?
 

Jfur

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Do you know how they prepare the dog meat in China? You know how meat gets better if you beat it? Apparently that applies to dogs as well. And it seems that the meat it extra-good if you beat it while the animal is still alive. So the dogs that they are about to eat are literally beaten to death with sticks. It "makes the meat better".

i think you're thinking of korea...

don't forget the Philippines -- stuff a dog with rice, take it out in the sun and beat it to death
 

metalmania

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Originally posted by: forcesho
the quotes ? well u know, its also japanese/korean people too.. not just chinese..

you can't really blame the "chinese" people, they dont know western medicine, you must blame the government thats supressing them.. the government strictly brain wash them. The chinese people from china still think American are bad. Trust me, I seen it.. when the terrorist attack WTC, Chinese people, from china, in nyc were laughing their heads off, and to me, I just want to kick their F*#*#ing ass. No respect. They always think they're superior and they'll rule everything. I went to school with a bunch of asian people, japanese/korean people were cool, the taiwan always talk about defending their country and the chinese people just walk around pretending they're superior.. but thats just stony brook & nyc. so ur region may vary.

look people eat anything, look at fear factor, they eat disgusting stuff for money, some people in china are poor too, during certain times, they eat whatever they can get.. look at some of these canbalist in the US.. they exist, just not all of them been caught. People have been eating dogs and monkey for years, wake up, Some tribe in africa still eat people.

During the 911 tragedy, most Arabian people in West Asia were laughing too. But there are civilized people in every country.
 

ManSnake

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Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Do you know how they prepare the dog meat in China? You know how meat gets better if you beat it? Apparently that applies to dogs as well. And it seems that the meat it extra-good if you beat it while the animal is still alive. So the dogs that they are about to eat are literally beaten to death with sticks. It "makes the meat better".

You got it all wrong! Chinese people don't like to eat meat with blood, so before they cut up the animal to cook, they first drain the blood! To the Chinese, meat with blood still in it is NASTY.

They can't drain the boold after the animal has been killed?

Well, you tell me, how do they drain the blood if you "beat the meat really good"? If everything's smashed up, it's hard to drain the blood completely. Just think about it, if you were a cook, would you drain the blood first, cut the meat up then beat the meat or would you beat the animal while it's still alive and have broken bones and everything before you try to drain the blood?

Use common sense!
 

Nemesis77

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Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Do you know how they prepare the dog meat in China? You know how meat gets better if you beat it? Apparently that applies to dogs as well. And it seems that the meat it extra-good if you beat it while the animal is still alive. So the dogs that they are about to eat are literally beaten to death with sticks. It "makes the meat better".

You got it all wrong! Chinese people don't like to eat meat with blood, so before they cut up the animal to cook, they first drain the blood! To the Chinese, meat with blood still in it is NASTY.

They can't drain the boold after the animal has been killed?

Well, you tell me, how do they drain the blood if you "beat the meat really good"? If everything's smashed up, it's hard to drain the blood completely. Just think about it, if you were a cook, would you drain the blood first, cut the meat up then beat the meat or would you beat the animal while it's still alive and have broken bones and everything before you try to drain the blood?

Use common sense!

Ummmm... I don't think they smash the meat in to bloody pulp if that's what you are suggesting. Besides, that story was already confirmed from another source as well.
 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: LoqT
Not to downplay on the cruelty to bears, but how is this different then the way farmers treat calves for veal? Different uses yes, but just as cruel if not more so. Just because McDonalds has a happy clown for a spokesperson doesn't make the process they farm their meat any less cruel than other what you would consider "developed" countries. If bears didn't have the cute factor going for them I doubt any of you would care. If they were doing this to rats no one would give a $Hi# so you should all get off your high horses and look at whats happening at home before you go pointing fingers at others.

I'm no animal activist but I see hypocrisy in these arguments. The whining about the eating of dogs.... just because it's taboo in American culture doesn't make it any better then eating pork or beef. People in India hold cows sacred to their religion, everyone leaves them alone doesn't even think they should be kept as pets. Imagine how they feel seeing how high and mighty Americans treat calves for veal, or even regular cows for milk. Unless you've actually gone to a slaughterhouse and seen it happen you have NO IDEA. It isn't the cleanest of places and watching what happens to the animals can be pretty traumatizing if you're young (happened to me). I'm an American and I find it embarrasing that we are so quick to point the fingers to other countries and judge what they do all the while being just as guilty ourselves.

Bears sure are cute....

props to you man, do you guys know that.. the slaughter houses for cows are prob WORST then what they are doing to these bears? the cows are literally lined up in a straight line and goes through machines that chop em up... and they dont even know whats happening... so why dont you all who think 'us americans' are so good and sweet because we dont do this stuff to animals... we do people WAKE UP...

 

ManSnake

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Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Do you know how they prepare the dog meat in China? You know how meat gets better if you beat it? Apparently that applies to dogs as well. And it seems that the meat it extra-good if you beat it while the animal is still alive. So the dogs that they are about to eat are literally beaten to death with sticks. It "makes the meat better".

You got it all wrong! Chinese people don't like to eat meat with blood, so before they cut up the animal to cook, they first drain the blood! To the Chinese, meat with blood still in it is NASTY.

They can't drain the boold after the animal has been killed?

Well, you tell me, how do they drain the blood if you "beat the meat really good"? If everything's smashed up, it's hard to drain the blood completely. Just think about it, if you were a cook, would you drain the blood first, cut the meat up then beat the meat or would you beat the animal while it's still alive and have broken bones and everything before you try to drain the blood?

Use common sense!

Ummmm... I don't think they smash the meat in to bloody pulp if that's what you are suggesting. Besides, that story was already confirmed from another source as well.

hello?

Filipino != Chinese
 

Desslok

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Originally posted by: Bluga
Originally posted by: xospec1alk friggin chinese people...dont they understand what modern medicine is about?
friggin americans, just because they saw something on news they think everyone does that, pathetic. That's how Chinese does stuff
, if you don't like it, either do something about it or shut the **** up. No one is asking you to eat bears.

If you are going to flame someone at least do it so peole can understand your sorry ass.

 

Nemesis77

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Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Do you know how they prepare the dog meat in China? You know how meat gets better if you beat it? Apparently that applies to dogs as well. And it seems that the meat it extra-good if you beat it while the animal is still alive. So the dogs that they are about to eat are literally beaten to death with sticks. It "makes the meat better".

You got it all wrong! Chinese people don't like to eat meat with blood, so before they cut up the animal to cook, they first drain the blood! To the Chinese, meat with blood still in it is NASTY.

They can't drain the boold after the animal has been killed?

Well, you tell me, how do they drain the blood if you "beat the meat really good"? If everything's smashed up, it's hard to drain the blood completely. Just think about it, if you were a cook, would you drain the blood first, cut the meat up then beat the meat or would you beat the animal while it's still alive and have broken bones and everything before you try to drain the blood?

Use common sense!

Ummmm... I don't think they smash the meat in to bloody pulp if that's what you are suggesting. Besides, that story was already confirmed from another source as well.

hello?

Filipino != Chinese

Allow me to quote SSP:

Actually he's right. When I said "its worse then dog farms" that's what I was talking about (not the best way to put it I know). They import a special breed from the west (forgot the breed) and keep then in small cages. They are tortured so they produce adrenaline or something, which they say makes the meat taste better. The papers even had pictures of the dogs, it was sick.
 
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