Where in the quote did he say anything about beating the dog to death with a stick? My replies were to your comment on the Chinese beating the dog to death with a stick because and I quote "makes the meat better". That makes absolutely no sense.
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Do you know how they prepare the dog meat in China? You know how meat gets better if you beat it? Apparently that applies to dogs as well. And it seems that the meat it extra-good if you beat it while the animal is still alive. So the dogs that they are about to eat are literally beaten to death with sticks. It "makes the meat better".
You got it all wrong! Chinese people don't like to eat meat with blood, so before they cut up the animal to cook, they first drain the blood! To the Chinese, meat with blood still in it is NASTY.
They can't drain the boold after the animal has been killed?
Well, you tell me, how do they drain the blood if you "beat the meat really good"? If everything's smashed up, it's hard to drain the blood completely. Just think about it, if you were a cook, would you drain the blood first, cut the meat up then beat the meat or would you beat the animal while it's still alive and have broken bones and everything before you try to drain the blood?
Use common sense!
Ummmm... I don't think they smash the meat in to bloody pulp if that's what you are suggesting. Besides, that story was already confirmed from another source as well.
hello?
Filipino != Chinese
Allow me to quote SSP:
Actually he's right. When I said "its worse then dog farms" that's what I was talking about (not the best way to put it I know). They import a special breed from the west (forgot the breed) and keep then in small cages. They are tortured so they produce adrenaline or something, which they say makes the meat taste better. The papers even had pictures of the dogs, it was sick.
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Do you know how they prepare the dog meat in China? You know how meat gets better if you beat it? Apparently that applies to dogs as well. And it seems that the meat it extra-good if you beat it while the animal is still alive. So the dogs that they are about to eat are literally beaten to death with sticks. It "makes the meat better".
You got it all wrong! Chinese people don't like to eat meat with blood, so before they cut up the animal to cook, they first drain the blood! To the Chinese, meat with blood still in it is NASTY.
They can't drain the boold after the animal has been killed?
Well, you tell me, how do they drain the blood if you "beat the meat really good"? If everything's smashed up, it's hard to drain the blood completely. Just think about it, if you were a cook, would you drain the blood first, cut the meat up then beat the meat or would you beat the animal while it's still alive and have broken bones and everything before you try to drain the blood?
Use common sense!
Ummmm... I don't think they smash the meat in to bloody pulp if that's what you are suggesting. Besides, that story was already confirmed from another source as well.
hello?
Filipino != Chinese
Allow me to quote SSP:
Actually he's right. When I said "its worse then dog farms" that's what I was talking about (not the best way to put it I know). They import a special breed from the west (forgot the breed) and keep then in small cages. They are tortured so they produce adrenaline or something, which they say makes the meat taste better. The papers even had pictures of the dogs, it was sick.
Where in the quote did he say anything about beating the dog to death with a stick? My replies were to your comment on the Chinese beating the dog to death with a stick because and I quote "makes the meat better". That makes absolutely no sense.
STOP Chinese Bear Farms!!
The substance is extracted from a bear's gall bladder in an excruciatingly painful process which involves slicing into the animal's flesh to "milk" bile from the gall bladder with a tube.
The prcoess causes many of the animals to resort to chewing their paws to cope with the pain.
Originally posted by: SuperCyrix
The substance is extracted from a bear's gall bladder in an excruciatingly painful process which involves slicing into the animal's flesh to "milk" bile from the gall bladder with a tube.
The prcoess causes many of the animals to resort to chewing their paws to cope with the pain.
That is fvcking sick. I hope the bears get out and rip out the farmer's gall bladder.
Over 7,000 bears are kept alive on more than 200 farms in China, where they are 'milked' for their bile from open wounds. This agonising process causes severe distress, with some bears resorting to chewing their paws to cope with the pain
Originally posted by: SuperCyrix
1. We need beef to survive, but they don' t need bear biles to survive. If they're killing these bears for food then that's fine, but they're putting them through slow torture to extract a substance from them that has no medicinal value.
2. They are getting these bears from the wild and it's driving the bears towards extinction
3. We kill our cows once. They put these bears through an agonizing process multiple times through the course of 10 years.
Over 7,000 bears are kept alive on more than 200 farms in China, where they are 'milked' for their bile from open wounds. This agonising process causes severe distress, with some bears resorting to chewing their paws to cope with the pain
Don't even compare this to milking cows. They're cutting a hole through the bear and slowly milking what is suppose to stay inside the body. If you think getting kicked in the balls is bad, I can only imagine this as 100X more painful.
Originally posted by: LoqT
Not to downplay on the cruelty to bears, but how is this different then the way farmers treat calves for veal? Different uses yes, but just as cruel if not more so. Just because McDonalds has a happy clown for a spokesperson doesn't make the process they farm their meat any less cruel than other what you would consider "developed" countries. If bears didn't have the cute factor going for them I doubt any of you would care. If they were doing this to rats no one would give a $Hi# so you should all get off your high horses and look at whats happening at home before you go pointing fingers at others.
I'm no animal activist but I see hypocrisy in these arguments. The whining about the eating of dogs.... just because it's taboo in American culture doesn't make it any better then eating pork or beef. People in India hold cows sacred to their religion, everyone leaves them alone doesn't even think they should be kept as pets. Imagine how they feel seeing how high and mighty Americans treat calves for veal, or even regular cows for milk. Unless you've actually gone to a slaughterhouse and seen it happen you have NO IDEA. It isn't the cleanest of places and watching what happens to the animals can be pretty traumatizing if you're young (happened to me). I'm an American and I find it embarrasing that we are so quick to point the fingers to other countries and judge what they do all the while being just as guilty ourselves.
Bears sure are cute....
Originally posted by: SuperCyrix
1. We need beef to survive, but they don' t need bear biles to survive. If they're killing these bears for food then that's fine, but they're putting them through slow torture to extract a substance from them that has no medicinal value.
2. They are getting these bears from the wild and it's driving the bears towards extinction
3. We kill our cows once. They put these bears through an agonizing process multiple times through the course of 10 years.
Over 7,000 bears are kept alive on more than 200 farms in China, where they are 'milked' for their bile from open wounds. This agonising process causes severe distress, with some bears resorting to chewing their paws to cope with the pain
Don't even compare this to milking cows. They're cutting a hole through the bear and slowly milking what is suppose to stay inside the body. If you think getting kicked in the balls is bad, I can only imagine this as 100X more painful.
Damn!! This crap needs to stop. All of this crap. Of course, no one cares. ARgghhh!Originally posted by: MaxDSP
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
What's wrong with the dog farms? Are they cruel too or is it the fact that dogs are a sacred animal to westerners?
he may have been referring to puppy mills. Puppy mills are absolutely horrible places that keep adult dogs in captivity in small wire cages with their only pupose being to breed and make puppies. That's also the place where many pet stores get their puppies, unfortunately.
EDIT: some links about puppy mills
Originally posted by: forcesho
the quotes ? well u know, its also japanese/korean people too.. not just chinese..
you can't really blame the "chinese" people, they dont know western medicine, you must blame the government thats supressing them.. the government strictly brain wash them. The chinese people from china still think American are bad. Trust me, I seen it.. when the terrorist attack WTC, Chinese people, from china, in nyc were laughing their heads off, and to me, I just want to kick their F*#*#ing ass. No respect. They always think they're superior and they'll rule everything. I went to school with a bunch of asian people, japanese/korean people were cool, the taiwan always talk about defending their country and the chinese people just walk around pretending they're superior.. but thats just stony brook & nyc. so ur region may vary.
look people eat anything, look at fear factor, they eat disgusting stuff for money, some people in china are poor too, during certain times, they eat whatever they can get.. look at some of these canbalist in the US.. they exist, just not all of them been caught. People have been eating dogs and monkey for years, wake up, Some tribe in africa still eat people.
Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: SuperCyrix
1. We need beef to survive, but they don' t need bear biles to survive. If they're killing these bears for food then that's fine, but they're putting them through slow torture to extract a substance from them that has no medicinal value.
2. They are getting these bears from the wild and it's driving the bears towards extinction
3. We kill our cows once. They put these bears through an agonizing process multiple times through the course of 10 years.
Over 7,000 bears are kept alive on more than 200 farms in China, where they are 'milked' for their bile from open wounds. This agonising process causes severe distress, with some bears resorting to chewing their paws to cope with the pain
Don't even compare this to milking cows. They're cutting a hole through the bear and slowly milking what is suppose to stay inside the body. If you think getting kicked in the balls is bad, I can only imagine this as 100X more painful.
No you don't. India, whom worship cows, have populations in excess of a billion live just fine without a tastes of beef in their lives. Do you see they cried out because of your mistreatment of those cows?
Originally posted by: DAWeinG
Originally posted by: SuperCyrix
1. We need beef to survive, but they don' t need bear biles to survive. If they're killing these bears for food then that's fine, but they're putting them through slow torture to extract a substance from them that has no medicinal value.
2. They are getting these bears from the wild and it's driving the bears towards extinction
3. We kill our cows once. They put these bears through an agonizing process multiple times through the course of 10 years.
Over 7,000 bears are kept alive on more than 200 farms in China, where they are 'milked' for their bile from open wounds. This agonising process causes severe distress, with some bears resorting to chewing their paws to cope with the pain
Don't even compare this to milking cows. They're cutting a hole through the bear and slowly milking what is suppose to stay inside the body. If you think getting kicked in the balls is bad, I can only imagine this as 100X more painful.
Is this better or worse than the slaughterhouses in America where cows line up and get sliced and diced by machines?
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: SuperCyrix
1. We need beef to survive, but they don' t need bear biles to survive. If they're killing these bears for food then that's fine, but they're putting them through slow torture to extract a substance from them that has no medicinal value.
2. They are getting these bears from the wild and it's driving the bears towards extinction
3. We kill our cows once. They put these bears through an agonizing process multiple times through the course of 10 years.
Over 7,000 bears are kept alive on more than 200 farms in China, where they are 'milked' for their bile from open wounds. This agonising process causes severe distress, with some bears resorting to chewing their paws to cope with the pain
Don't even compare this to milking cows. They're cutting a hole through the bear and slowly milking what is suppose to stay inside the body. If you think getting kicked in the balls is bad, I can only imagine this as 100X more painful.
No you don't. India, whom worship cows, have populations in excess of a billion live just fine without a tastes of beef in their lives. Do you see they cried out because of your mistreatment of those cows?
Went to India. Ate beef. Nuff Said.
Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: SuperCyrix
1. We need beef to survive, but they don' t need bear biles to survive. If they're killing these bears for food then that's fine, but they're putting them through slow torture to extract a substance from them that has no medicinal value.
2. They are getting these bears from the wild and it's driving the bears towards extinction
3. We kill our cows once. They put these bears through an agonizing process multiple times through the course of 10 years.
Over 7,000 bears are kept alive on more than 200 farms in China, where they are 'milked' for their bile from open wounds. This agonising process causes severe distress, with some bears resorting to chewing their paws to cope with the pain
Don't even compare this to milking cows. They're cutting a hole through the bear and slowly milking what is suppose to stay inside the body. If you think getting kicked in the balls is bad, I can only imagine this as 100X more painful.
No you don't. India, whom worship cows, have populations in excess of a billion live just fine without a tastes of beef in their lives. Do you see they cried out because of your mistreatment of those cows?
Went to India. Ate beef. Nuff Said.
Yeah, so what is your points. Do you see them eating it? Some where some place in this country, there will people who will eat anything, including things that most will consider "pet" or taboo. Shrug...