Stop saying Islam is a religion of peace: Taslima Nasreen

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Well, rather than mocking the opinions you don't like, state YOUR opinions and your evidence for believing them.

Yes it means others can debate you on your opinions. Good ideas and good opinions stand up to true scrutiny. Maturity comes with the territory.

Or you could continue to mock those whose opinions you want to squash and convince others to simply continue accepting your narrative without question...

Dood, when you offer something other than propaganda and rants maybe someone will want to actually discuss stuff with you. As it is, you are simply one more culture warrior pushing the same tired propaganda and straw arguments over and over and over and over and over and over.

And please, enough of the whining about being silenced because nobody is silencing you. Spout your shit as much as you want to. Just don't be surprised when it's pointed out to be just that, shit.

Clutch that victimhood tightly as it appears to be all you have.
 

MajinCry

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Dood, when you offer something other than propaganda and rants maybe someone will want to actually discuss stuff with you. As it is, you are simply one more culture warrior pushing the same tired propaganda and straw arguments over and over and over and over and over and over.

And please, enough of the whining about being silenced because nobody is silencing you. Spout your shit as much as you want to. Just don't be surprised when it's pointed out to be just that, shit.

Clutch that victimhood tightly as it appears to be all you have.

The irony of Blue's posts is that he is self projecting what he does onto others without any rhyme nor reason. It's awkward to even read his posts, really.
 
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The irony of Blue's posts is that he is self projecting what he does onto others without any rhyme nor reason. It's awkward to even read his posts, really.

I'd like to see the quality of propaganda pick up at least a bit. The amateur work that most of these guys post is really of a rather embarrassingly poor quality.
 

Blue_Max

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The irony of Blue's posts is that he is self projecting what he does onto others without any rhyme nor reason. It's awkward to even read his posts, really.

Grand time for you to provide an example! Show everyone where I'm "projecting" - doing the very thing I'm condemning someone else for...

Your magic moment, make it good! :awe:
 

SmilingBhudda

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The irony of Blue's posts is that he is self projecting what he does onto others without any rhyme nor reason. It's awkward to even read his posts, really.

You know what's awkward too? Having people that have lived here for the past 50 years wave the flag of their country in my country, in support of a dictator that wants to pretty much do away with a constitutional democracy, while actually claiming to defend democracy. And flat-out stating: I am a Turk, not a Dutchman.

It's often said that nothing in the Middle-East is what it seems. Maybe that makes us miss the times it is what it seems:

The mosques are our barracks,
The domes our helmets,
The minarets our bayonets,
And the faithful our soldiers...

You bet he would like to turn every church in a mosque.

But I guess Turkey coup shifted attention away from Nice nicely. Which actually turned out to be a terror attack that had been a year in the planning, supported by at least 6 accomplices. So no, it was not because the shitstain had "marriage issues".

I'd like to see the quality of propaganda pick up at least a bit. The amateur work that most of these guys post is really of a rather embarrassingly poor quality.

Any substance I can comment on? Watch this video if nothing comes to mind easily: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ-nw0ijTpQ (very amateur production)
 
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I'd like to see the quality of propaganda pick up at least a bit. The amateur work that most of these guys post is really of a rather embarrassingly poor quality.

There is not a single majority Muslim country that can be considered a democracy with freedom of speech and equal justice under law. Can you explain why this is?

Here is an interesting bit from a liberal Moroccan journalist:
Islam is not encoded in anyone’s DNA. Being religious is a personal choice, one that every individual is free to make—or not—as stated in the Universal declaration of Human Rights. As it happens, human rights (including freedom of belief) are widely denied to the 1.6 billion persons we’re talking about, by most of the governments they live under—as well as by the prejudices of well-meaning Western liberals who bend over backwards in their politically correct efforts to be understanding of “Muslim countries” and their ways. What well-meaning Westerners need to understand is the wide gap between Islam as it should be—a personal choice—and as it most often is—a set of pervasive constraints enforced by undemocratic States.

In all the countries where Islam is the religion of the State, merely criticizing the faith (let alone leaving it) is a criminal offense. In 2007, as the publisher of the Moroccan weekly magazine Nishan, I ran a cover story about popular humor in my country. Because the issue included jokes about Islam (harmless ones at that—the most notable one featured God assigning a deceased Muslim man of virtue to hell, before teasing him: “Smile, it’s the candid camera!&#8221, copies of the magazine were publicly burnt by grimacing extremists, and my colleagues and I received hundreds of death threats. Yet instead of cracking down against the fanatics, the government prosecuted us for “damaging religious morals,” and banned the magazine for 3 months.

It’s not just about mandatory religiosity. In most “Muslim countries,” school curricula include inescapable religious classes at every grade, with disturbing teachings about the role of women (mainly to procreate and stay at home), the duty to “defend Islam” and “fight its enemies,” and so on. Grown-ups are not spared either, with omnipresent state media never losing a chance to hammer into them that Islam is the highest moral norm, and transnational Arab channels like Al-Jazeera engaging in constant “us-versus-them” rhetoric (“us” being Muslims and “them,” Westerns, of course). Even opposition parties (mostly made of Islamist groups) do nothing but double down on religious intransigence, hoping to outdo the—already bigoted—official institutions. In these conditions, the psychological pressure is such that opting out of Islam is unthinkable—or more accurately, unthought-of—for the vast majority of the people.

http://time.com/3675429/muslim-world-secularization/
 

Blue_Max

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Here is an interesting bit from a liberal Moroccan journalist:

Good read. Reminds me of this classic video that serves as an excellent example of what was just said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg3m3t87-dk A two (TWO!) year old girl is absolutely bombarded with dogma... a very clear example of what most of them go through - brainwashing from before they can even speak, thus the programming runs very deep.
 

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It's always good to see free speech preserved. The religion/racist card gets old though. Trust me, Islam really is evil. Change must come from within. We planted a seed but the question is will it blossom in time? But even then, Islam will be tarnished forever. And who's to say it won't fall back in its old ways?

Bigotry is some sense inherent to religions with strong in/out group identities. Notice by observing yourself that even with abrahamic religions on the decline their influence persists in the west.

A Christian KKK member is like a Nazi that doesn't hate Jews. They both missed an important part of the book.
The book is the creation of people, not the other way around.

The Nazis were also mostly christians, which made targets jews easier.

I take credit for nothing but my own thoughts. And I'm not a right wing xenophobe. I guess it's more accurate to say I looked in the abyss and the abyss looked back at me. That's by Nietschze btw.

Someone who's read Nietzsche should know what the highlight statement above means.
 

agent00f

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Yep, the Cultural Marxism they have been subjected to has brainwashed them. Modern feminism is a cult just like any other religion.

It seems pretty obvious that culture is responsible for various social ills; doesn't really take joining a cult to observe for example the trivial correlation between slavery/segregation and prejudice against blacks.

Absolutely true. Notice no one on my side of this has any need to cover for or dispute the obvious. Of course there are extreme rightwing Christians that are dangerous nutjobs- just virtually NO ONE among normal Christians or the secular, feels any need to apologize for them. If *ANYWHERE NEAR* the same percentage of Christians were backward in their thinking in outward dangerous ways incompatible with the modern western world as is the case in the Islamic world- THEN there'd be cause for major concern over radical Christians. At best, most of them are annoying but harmless, street-corner Bible-thumper types. At worst, they're terrorists who commit mass killings and blow up abortion centers and such.

But to pretend the later type is anywhere near as prevalent (and in any way ACCEPTED BY the mainstream) as their counterparts in the Islamic world, is just to deny reality.

I don't know about that. One trait of modern westerners both good and terrible, is that most really are passive to real threats against them. (It's 'good' only in the sense that most people are harmless and non-violent).

So even if Islam were overrunning the entire world the way many in the Islamic world dream of it doing, most westerners I believe would actually do NOTHING about it. Even most Christians.

Not until made to bow before Allah would most people even acknowledge a real threat to their peaceful, secular lives, and even THEN I believe so many people being at their core, complete cowards, would simply make excuses for it, and cast anyone who didn't bow to the new god as 'racist' etc. etc.

Sad as that is, I believe it's an absolute FACT. It's the same as MOST people in countries like say France, didn't actually join the resistance against Nazis coming in and taking over, imposing an evil regime on them. FACT: MOST went right along with it.

That's true enough, many westerners are rather indifferent to exterminating lesser races. Frankly the only reason the holocaust matters these days is that jews somehow got reclassified as white.
 

agent00f

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If you can't figure it out on your own already, I'm not wasting the time.

I only wrote that for your benefit. It's simply unimpeachable fact that pretty much all germans at the time where christian, roughly split between protestants and catholics.
 

MongGrel

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I only wrote that for your benefit. It's simply unimpeachable fact that pretty much all germans at the time where christian, roughly split between protestants and catholics.

You're not benefiting me in any way.
 

agent00f

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Apparently you're not actually disputing the fact above, but feel the need to do whatever this is regardless.
 

agent00f

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Did you ever get around to pondering why these sites seem to perfectly cater to your every anger? Like they can predict that shit ahead of time?
 

Blue_Max

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Did you ever get around to pondering why these sites seem to perfectly cater to your every anger? Like they can predict that shit ahead of time?

The source isn't the issue. Australian law changed regardless of the site reporting it. Way to try changing the subject again.
 

agent00f

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The source isn't the issue. Australian law changed regardless of the site reporting it. Way to try changing the subject again.

The issue is the various ways these sources are predictably wrong have been abundantly demonstrated in the past, so obviously facts or reason don't matter. It's moved onto the psychology of what they provide readers such that they persist in presenting it like some pets do for garbage they found on the street.
 
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The ACT Parliament is *not* the Australian parliament, it's the parliament for the Capital Territories (see pic)



This change in local law covers *all* religions, not simply Islam.

Various levels of Australian govt. have have had similar laws for a number of years

Max penalty seems to be $7500 (Australian dollars)

Max can now get back to hiding under his bed.
 

Blue_Max

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The ACT Parliament is *not* the Australian parliament, it's the parliament for the Capital Territories (see pic)


Yes, new information is trickling in that it only covers that region. The law is brand-spanking new and news is only just starting to spread.

Of course, as time passes, more and more territory will succumb... just like part of our closer-to-home Saskatchewan did last year.

This change in local law covers *all* religions, not simply Islam.

But, just like now, no one cares when other religions are criticized. Only muslims are fighting for these laws, and I'll bet that deep down you know why.
 

agent00f

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Sort of like "only the blacks are fighting for affirmative action, and deep down you know why". It's rather obviously due to blue max's crowd, just like with the islam thing now.
 
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