Stop saying Islam is a religion of peace: Taslima Nasreen

[agent00f]

You obviously haven't been here long enough to know the nuances of users' posting, but, keep on being you.

Please do explain the nuance in these users' posts. Take your time.

But, let's get back to the question at hand - so it's OK for someone to continue doing wrong, because someone else did it long ago? Is that your retarded mentality talking or just ignorance?

No, it's not ok to continue with killing muslims after it became politically untenable to exterminate natives and exploit blacks and so on.

Also just FYI, you're not the smart one here despite what appears a lifelong dunning-kruger sort of overconfidence in your mind.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Keep in mind these are the people on your side of history.

If you're honestly trying to "white guilt" me, give it up. I have none. Besides, the koran was written before European colonialism. And no, my ancestors didn't write the koran just to fuck with of Arabs. Stop trying to pass the horrors of islam off as something we created.

 

[1prophet]

^ As if there needs to be more examples of "not my fault" mentality. Everything from ethnic cleansing to slavery to colonialism to segregation to every current "war" was too long ago to count (or remember in their case) or they deserved it.

Conscientious and responsible citizens are what makes the west great, not white-isis types like these.

Freedom of speech, separation of religion from state, human rights, civil rights, rule of law, and many more rights is the foundation that enabled the west to become great and move forward and that includes having to respect the free speech rights of those you disagree with,

likewise the absence or disregard for these rights in countries that refuse to separate their religion from state is what holds them back, along with the billions of petrodollars used to promote the intolerant Islam as the correct one.

And as long as radical Islamists have billions at their disposal to build mosques in Western countries to keep those Muslims and refugees from straying into secularism, or groups like ISIS to promote and establish their form of Islam worldwide you will never see any progress like in the west when they threw off the shackles of religion, no matter how much the "head in the sand" apologists like to claim.

 

[1prophet]

Free of oppression, so that he can slaughter Native Americans, sure.



What a guy.

Give it a rest, it was a conquest culture back then, and the Native Americans were just as busy slaughtering each others.

Nah let him speak it's his right, just like it's our right to point out the easy going 1st world lifestyle he enjoys is on the back of the many hundreds of millions the British Empire raped, pillaged, and plundered.

 

[Orignal Earl]

One major difference compared to the moslems:



He won't get away with it.

Then this part:



Proves that Christianity tames them, where islam does not. This honor killing by a Christian does not exonerate islam. In fact, it further proves the point that islam is not a religion of peace.

Right there in your quote "He said it has nothing to do with religion but is “part of a social issue that is deeply rooted in the eastern societies.”

Here you can read up on honor killings all over the world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

Killing one's wife or sister for tarnishing her honor or that of her family has not received approval from any Islamic scholar of any note, in either medieval or modern era.[79] Many Muslim commentators, and organizations condemn honor killings as an un-Islamic cultural practice.

 

[Orignal Earl]

If you're honestly trying to "white guilt" me, give it up. I have none. Besides, the koran was written before European colonialism. And no, my ancestors didn't write the koran just to fuck with of Arabs. Stop trying to pass the horrors of islam off as something we created.

Lot's of Muslims believe Wahhabism is a Satanic cult created by the Brits

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Not really because his values are my values so he was right. Had he lost he would have been a martyr but he won so he's a hero. Don't you know anything?

:thumbsup:

 

[MajinCry]

Nah let him speak it's his right, just like it's our right to point out the easy going 1st world lifestyle he enjoys is on the back of the many hundreds of millions the British Empire raped, pillaged, and plundered.

Yup, the British Empire has a pretty horrid history. Good news, is that the Brits acknowledge it. Americans, on the other hand, dinnae give a fuck, as has been demonstrated.

Anything ta avoid having to address the immorality of it all, eh? Would be a pain ta have ta realize that yer founding fathers are genocidal slavers, and that the settlers damn near completely wiped out an entire race.

 

[SSSnail]

Please do explain the nuance in these users' posts. Take your time.



No, it's not ok to continue with killing muslims after it became politically untenable to exterminate natives and exploit blacks and so on.

Also just FYI, you're not the smart one here despite what appears a lifelong dunning-kruger sort of overconfidence in your mind.

Oh, I spotted additional problem with your thought process now, it's all cleared...

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Right there in your quote "He said it has nothing to do with religion but is “part of a social issue that is deeply rooted in the eastern societies.”

Here you can read up on honor killings all over the world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

From that same page:

She also writes that, although there are not many cases of honor killings within the United States, the overwhelming majority of honor killings are perpetrated by Muslims against Muslims (90% of honor killings known to have taken place in Europe and the United States from 1998 to 2008).[251] In these documented cases the victims were murdered because they were believed to have acted in a way against the religion of the family. In every case, perpetrators view their victims as violating rules of religious conduct and act without remorse.[251

Phyllis Chesler stated in a study that worldwide, 91 percent of perpetrators were Muslims.[83] Resolution 1327 (2003) of the Council of Europe states that:[84]

"The Assembly notes that whilst so-called 'honour crimes' emanate from cultural and not religious roots and are perpetrated worldwide (mainly in patriarchal societies or communities), the majority of reported cases in Europe have been amongst Muslim or migrant Muslim communities (although Islam itself does not support the death penalty for honour-related misconduct)."

 

[Orignal Earl]

From that same page:

Ya, so we agree it has nothing to do with Islam right?

 

[Blue_Max]

From that same page:

Ya, so we agree it has nothing to do with Islam right?

but.... read... quotes... the words... *sput*...

...

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Ya, so we agree it has nothing to do with Islam right?

Yes, nothing to do with islam, just moslems... And those that convert to Christianity do it less frequently, even former moslems or Hindus from the same regions.

 

[Omar F1]

To the OP, just to clarify something here.

Islam has long came to bring peace among its own followers. That's pretty evident and well observed by us, contrary to what others might think.

For those considered infidels/polytheisms? nope, I'd say it's actually the other way around, and let nobody BS you about it.
Yes we were ordered to deal with fairness and just; but were also given the duty to spread the word, whether by peace or war. We were ordered indeed to wage war against the infidels; that's been well documented, supported by evidence from both Quran and Hadith.

While evidently the Islamic world pretends to be the peaceful group that wish you no harm, don't forget on the other hand they're totally proud of their jihadist history, and rarely gave another thought to those who were slaughtered, enslaved, or their homes taken away during those campaigns.

Now of course, many Islamic modernist/reformers would argue that that order should be archived; that Muslims can practice/preach their religion almost freely in the largest part of the world without any oppression whatsoever, so against whom shall we exactly wage that war? and why the insistence to make it a religious war.
That group truly does exist. Problem is however, there are still quite many fundamentalists who believe otherwise.


But how about Judaism for a moment. Consider it no offense, but the dozens of prophets whom were sent to your ancestors, what was their call; live your life the way it's and embrace whatever you like? no kidding....
It's the same exact message, almost the same exact orders, by the same exact God.
The Jews would continue to keep on their denial forever, whereas the Christians are still considering the last of the Jews messenger as a god, while both kept bashing Islam as something totally fabricated out of Mohamed's illiterate mind.


Definitely every group has had its own share of war crimes against humanity, in some time or another, by different ways for different goals. Yet, everybody keep playing the righteous nation bs, in order to conceal and justify his actions and write history.

 

[0roo0roo]

Please explain the 1960's to 70's bombings carried out by rich, college students in protest of the draft and the Nam war? Was no Islam back then.

Much of the time with warning.

Not everything is the same. By some definitions the founding fathers were "terrorists", but they were not genocidal. Ideological motivation matters.

The IRA were not stabbing 13 year old girls to death in their sleep and their mothers weren't proud of them for committing such horrendous acts.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/...th-in-her-bedroom-by-a-teenage-muslim-savage/

Moderate (-ly radical) Muslim Students - Islam on Campus
Dr. Layman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoHr4hlK4FU

The nature of Islam is unarguably unique due to the nature of founders life, his choices, and his criminality. To put it simply, say what you will about Christianity or Buddhism, they were not founded by warlords marrying children. The license for violence goes right back to Islams inception. This is a stain it cannot rectify.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Much of the time with warning.

Not everything is the same. By some definitions the founding fathers were "terrorists", but they were not genocidal. Ideological motivation matters.

The IRA were not stabbing 13 year old girls to death in their sleep and their mothers weren't proud of them for committing such horrendous acts.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/...th-in-her-bedroom-by-a-teenage-muslim-savage/

Moderate (-ly radical) Muslim Students - Islam on Campus
Dr. Layman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoHr4hlK4FU

The nature of Islam is unarguably unique due to the nature of founders life, his choices, and his criminality. To put it simply, say what you will about Christianity or Buddhism, they were not founded by warlords marrying children. The license for violence goes right back to Islams inception. This is a stain it cannot rectify.

You guys sure do like your propaganda.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Yes, nothing to do with islam, just moslems... And those that convert to Christianity do it less frequently, even former moslems or Hindus from the same regions.

So right back to where I started.
The people from these regions do honor killings, no matter their religion
Was the Christian count done per capita?

There is probably an honor killing done everyday in the US by people who still have honor
It's just we call it murder

 

[0roo0roo]

You guys sure do like your propaganda.

Enjoy.

Sam Harris - The only problem with Islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam
EvolutionFACT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m09Mvo8DNnA

Sam Harris on Islam's Contribution to Humanity. 26/3/2016
Joan Arch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ_rywMxQAk

 

[Orignal Earl]

but.... read... quotes... the words... *sput*...

...

I can totally understand why your so fucked up
You can barely read

 

[Victorian Gray]

Enjoy.

Sam Harris - The only problem with Islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam
EvolutionFACT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m09Mvo8DNnA

Sam Harris on Islam's Contribution to Humanity. 26/3/2016
Joan Arch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ_rywMxQAk

So you post more propaganda. :thumbsup:

 

[JEDIYoda]

To the OP, just to clarify something here.

Are you an idiot who cannot read???
What did I say in my original post??
Don`t get mad a me for this persons thoughts! I am just the person posting of the article......
Of course she might know better than most...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stop-sayi...143200315.html


I did not state any opinion....so why post for my sake?

You compare Judaism to what??? We are not talking about Judaism here!! I do not think Judaism has been discussed in the article I posted! So please stay on subject!
It is very easy to find examples that support any opinion regardless.....
Yet - why is it so hard to stay on subject??

 

[Tequila]

Definitely every group has had its own share of war crimes against humanity, in some time or another, by different ways for different goals. Yet, everybody keep playing the righteous nation bs, in order to conceal and justify his actions and write history.

Well said but unfortunately will fall on deaf ears in this forum. This is also why I have so little faith in humanity. When WW3 hits billions will be killed and we'll start all over again with people competing for territory. Even if you removed religion out of the equation people will always be conquering for more and/or better territory all the while justifying slaughtering and enslaving people at any means.

 

[Blue_Max]

...so... America just got its first official sharia-controlled town. Might want to see how well things turn out there...

http://www.uschronicle.com/first-city-muslim-majority-starts-implement-sharia-law/

 

[Orignal Earl]

...so... America just got its first official sharia-controlled town. Might want to see how well things turn out there...

http://www.uschronicle.com/first-city-muslim-majority-starts-implement-sharia-law/

Polish Catholic town is now Muslimland
Polish fear loss of tradition and culture
One Polish Catholic person hanging at the Polish center worries about Muslims because "They are clannish and stick together. . . ."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dry_communities_by_U.S._state

 

[Victorian Gray]

...so... America just got its first official sharia-controlled town. Might want to see how well things turn out there...

http://www.uschronicle.com/first-city-muslim-majority-starts-implement-sharia-law/

One wonders if you ever come out into the real world or do you just spend all of your time cowering in fear.