http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...H-in-Less-Than-100-Feet&p=74995879&viewfull=1
a pretty good list of stopping distance on performance vehicles. It lists tires and brakes too, which is helpful
stopping distance depends on many factors, one of them being weight. Motorcycles have a lot less weight to stop.
They also have a lot less grip. That said, a motorcycle with a proficient rider will be able to stop nearly as fast if not as fast as any high performance car with street tires. A bike will out brake your average sedan, suv or minivan easily.
Under a 100 feet is serious stopping. It appears that the best production bikes stop in just under 110'.
I have no idea how fast a normal production car will stop though, would 120' be unreasonable?
Under a 100 feet is serious stopping. It appears that the best production bikes stop in just under 110'.
I have no idea how fast a normal production car will stop though, would 120' be unreasonable?
I believe anywhere between 115-130 is typical. Depends on the car, the tires, etc.
Under 110 is generally excellent and as you said...under 100 is bonkers.
Someone did a 0-100-0 test of an R8 vs. a Ducati Diavel IIRC. Not exactly a perfect comparison, but the point being is the Ducati crushed the R8 from 0-100, but in turn was destroyed in the 100-0 braking section and the R8 had the shorter overall distance due to that.
In the end, 4 large contact patches > 2 small ones
I suspect that an 1199 Panigale would crush the Audi in the same comparo. The Diavel is fast but the Panigale is faster, and lighter, and has better brakes and chassis.
I don't believe there was a duck in the top ten stop distances that I saw. Of course I can't find the damn thing again to look, so I could well be thinking about a different list entirely.
I've seen that list and it is pretty old. IIRC there was a Harley and an SV650 on it.
The Panigale is faster than the Diavel so 0-100 would improve quite a bit, probably enough to beat the Audi.
By the way, I found some 60-0 braking times in a past issue of Road & Track (April 2013). If you are thinking of some particular cars I could look them up for you if they're in there.
Here are a few popular models:
Subaru Impreza WRX STi Limited 119'
Volkswagen Golf R 130'
Toyota Prius C 128'
Subaru BRZ Premium 128'
Mitsubishi Lancer EVO GSR 123'
Mini Cooper S 119'
Mazda 3i Touring 135'
Kia Optima Turbo 135'
Ferrari 458 Italia 106'
Corvette ZR1 105'
BMW 328i Sedan 123'
Chrysler 300S 129'
stopping distance depends on many factors, one of them being weight. Motorcycles have a lot less weight to stop.
This is exactly what I was looking for, just everyday cars.
The difference between cars and bikes isn't all that great. Toss out the Vet and the Ferrari and it looks like 120' is about the average. The list I was looking at put the best bikes at just under 110'.
The entire point of this exorcise was to try and get an idea of how much faster or slower my bike is capable of stopping as opposed to the car behind me, and how long it actually takes me to shut it down. I can get pretty close to the sub 110' the specs claim, but it's scary as hell (no ABS). I would guess that I could trim that distance a bit by going to a 240 rear tire, but I'd have to buy a new rim and I'm far to cheap for that.
The three stats that actually matter to me are 60 to 0, 0 to 60, and to a far lessor extant 60 to 80 roll on without a downshift. Everything else is just so you can brag to your buddy's, with no real value on the street.
I suspect that an 1199 Panigale would crush the Audi in the same comparo. The Diavel is fast but the Panigale is faster, and lighter, and has better brakes and chassis.
Most everyday cars are also hamstrung by tires that last 50-70K miles. Slap a better than average set of summer tires (not comp tires at all) and stopping distances come down quite a bit.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/...p_from_mph_in_less_than_100_feet/viewall.html
Supercars at the top, but I'm more impressed that some cars running just Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 are under 100ft. PS2 are good summer tires, but aren't track tires by any means and not even the grippiest summer sport tires available.
Two cars in particular caught his eye. The Porsche 911 GT3 RS and the Chevy Corvette Z06 both needed less than 100 feet of pavement to come to a halt. Not surprisingly, these two beasts share a few commonalities. They both have sophisticated sport-tuned suspensions that help combat balance-disrupting nosedive once the brakes clamp down. Additionally, they're both fitted with carbon-ceramic disc brakes. Although not necessarily better than metal discs at hard stops, the carbons do an amazing job of keeping stopping power dialed to 10, lap after punishing lap. And finally, both cars wear super-sticky, barely-street-legal Michelin Pilot Sport Cup race-compound tires. As we've said a million times, tires are the simplest and cheapest (relatively speaking) way to improve your car's performance. Yes, we realize a full set of Sport Cups will set you back more than $2000, but considering the $7000-plus price tag on a carbon-ceramic brake system, we consider that a deal
that's why i said it wasn't a perfect comparison. but at the end of the day, you're going to be able to stop faster in a car, provided all else is "equal" between a car and bike.
fwiw, MCnews got a 119 foot stopping distance for 60-0 on an 1199.
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/features/2012SeptBMW_Duc.pdf