Stranger Things

[AznAnarchy99]

Trailer confirms show is in 1984 too. I remember with season 1 what year it was, was a major talking point.

 

[Craig234]

Just watched this - some good things, but big flaws also. A lot of little things very good, and a few big things poorly.

 

[Paratus]

Just watched this - some good things, but big flaws also. A lot of little things very good, and a few big things poorly.

What did you pick out of the trailer? Or are you talking about season one?

 

[destrekor]

Just watched this - some good things, but big flaws also. A lot of little things very good, and a few big things poorly.

Don't go Trumpian on us now, use your big boy words!

 

[Craig234]

What did you pick out of the trailer? Or are you talking about season one?

I was talking about season one.

 

[Craig234]

Don't go Trumpian on us now, use your big boy words!

Excuse me?

 

[Paratus]

Excuse me?

I think he just wants to know what you found wrong.

 

[CZroe]

Excuse me?

Your post did sound like a parody of a Trump speech.

Just watched this - some good things, but big flaws also. A lot of little things - very good, and a few big things poorly.

I'm gonna do some good things. Very good. YUGE things. Believe me. The other guys have, big, big flaws. We don't want that. Also, I'm gonna do a lot of little things good too. Can't forget about those. They're very good. The few big things from the others are all done poorly. Bad ratings. Low energy. Not good.

 

[Craig234]

Your post did sound like a parody of a Trump speech.



I'm gonna do some good things. Very good. YUGE things. Believe me. The other guys have, big, big flaws. We don't want that. Also, I'm gonna do a lot of little things good too. Can't forget about those. They're very good. The few big things from the others are all done poorly. Bad ratings. Low energy. Not good.

That's just offensive, and wrong - two similar but different things. I guess I sound like Bernie too, if you think 'YUGE things' matches.

Note how much you had to invent rather than quote to make your point. Why don't you just put 'make tv great again' in the 'quote' also?

 

[CZroe]

That's just offensive, and wrong - two similar but different things. I guess I sound like Bernie too, if you think 'YUGE things' matches.

Note how much you had to invent rather than quote to make your point. Why don't you just put 'make tv great again' in the 'quote' also?

It was just an amusing similarity that he observed and brought to our attention. I already know that he is not alone: It amuses him and it amuses me. He wasn't saying anything political or offensive and you MIGHT be the only one who isn't amused.

I added more to make his speech patterns clear. It's undeniable that Tump likes to talk about the size of vaguely unspecific "things," which is exactly what you did. It's entirely OK for a show about "Things" that we finder "Stranger" than other things.

 

[Craig234]

I think he just wants to know what you found wrong.

You might be right, but I didn't feel like getting into it. Usually I'll post more detail for such an opinion but just didn't feel like it here.

Little things done right were things like the D&D stuff was actually nice and even fit the show's narrative usefully (e.g., the choice between a 'protect spell' for himself versus a fireball to help the group that was dangerous making a point about his character, though not quite accurate); or the somewhat refreshing 'gray area' of the character Steve, not being just a 'jerk' or a 'good guy' but having some of each you don't see enough in tv stories.

But things such as the whole premise of this 'alternate universe' as just some gooey crap you walk into, things like the interface including pounding on the wall to break through where a moment later it was just a wall, Will going from helpless kid stuck there to switching lights on and off...

For that matter, the idea of the 'monster' that could capture Will in the first place but then not catch him again or eat him in the other universe, how did Will get the stuff to make the 'fort' and its sign in the other universe - it was a lot of very cheap, not in the financial sense, sci-fi.

The idea the girl could levitate a van and be worn out, but also do things involving reaching the 'other dimension' we were told takes more energy than mankind can create by a lot? There were a lot of good things in her character and acting, but in ways it was quite a 'cheap' ET character.

I could go on of course.

Why would the government have felt it was a good idea to kill the diner owner? Why wouldn't they have had a better plan against the girl than to stand there and have her kill them?

I do appreciate the show's message on history of the actually horrific MKULTRA program (it could have made it stronger - thousands of Americans many made 'vegetables' by an evil and misguided CIA leadership). They were pretty accurate about the LSD and sensory deprivation used.

 

[Craig234]

It was just an amusing similarity that he observed and brought to our attention. I already know that he is not alone: It amuses him and it amuses me. He wasn't saying anything political or offensive and you MIGHT be the only one who isn't amused.

I added more to make his speech patterns clear. It's undeniable that Tump likes to talk about the size of vaguely unspecific "things," whichnis exactly what you did. It's entirely OK for a show about "Things" that we finder "Stranger" than other things.

I don't think talking about the size of things qualifies as being a trump thing, and trump's thing is lying about 'big things', which I didn't do.

Now, if I'd said something like that 'the show had the biggest, most beautiful ratings in the history of television' - that'd be something.

Don't ever say I say something like trump without a much better case than 'little and big things'.

That's like saying 'you sound just like Hitler', only worse, because Hitler could speak better than trump.

Really, it's hard to think of something much more insulting you could say to someone. Luckily, I'm aware that the only issue was saying there are big and small topics for a show, and that set him off.

 

[CZroe]

I don't think talking about the size of things qualifies as being a trump thing, and I didn't even talk about the size of things so...

You sure about that? Re-read your post.

Just watched this - some good things, but big flaws also. A lot of little things very good, and a few big things poorly.

I bolded for emphasis. I did not "add." It's also clear that Trump likes to punctuate things with "good" and "bad."

I added a lot to my reply:

That's just offensive, and wrong - two similar but different things. I guess I sound like Bernie too, if you think 'YUGE things' matches.

Note how much you had to invent rather than quote to make your point. Why don't you just put 'make tv great again' in the 'quote' also?

It was just an amusing similarity that he observed and brought to our attention. I already know that he is not alone: It amuses him and it amuses me. He wasn't saying anything political or offensive and you MIGHT be the only one who isn't amused.

I added more to make his speech patterns clear. It's undeniable that Tump likes to talk about the size of vaguely unspecific "things," which is exactly what you did. It's entirely OK for a show about "Things" that we finder "Stranger" than other things.

 

[Craig234]

You sure about that? Re-read your post.

I did, and had already clarified my post.

I bolded for emphasis. I did not "add." It's also clear that Trump likes to punctuate things with "good" and "bad."

I added a lot to my reply:

Boy, you sound a lot like trump. You 'did not add', the next sentence 'you added a lot'.

 

[Mayne]

I did not read this thread.

I love this show...i feel the same age as those kids right now.

 

[CZroe]

I don't think talking about the size of things qualifies as being a trump thing, and trump's thing is lying about 'big things', which I didn't do.

Now, if I'd said something like that 'the show had the biggest, most beautiful ratings in the history of television' - that'd be something.

Don't ever say I say something like trump without a much better case than 'little and big things'.

That's like saying 'you sound just like Hitler', only worse, because Hitler could speak better than trump.

Really, it's hard to think of something much more insulting you could say to someone. Luckily, I'm aware that the only issue was saying there are big and small topics for a show, and that set him off.

Responding to the edit...

It sounds like you could use some sleep. Destrektor was sharing a light-hearted, amusing, observation about the way your post could be read. You took it completely the wrong way. He wasn't insulting you or discussing politics or insinuating that you lie or anything. FFS, lighten up, Francis.

For what it's worth, many people will be amused that *I* of all people would tell someone else to "lighten up." You know what, though? I agree: that's amusing. If I were in your shoes and someone pointed out that my post sounded so much like a Trump talk that denying it was futile, I would chuckle and brush it off.

This is the Internet. We are allowed to be amused and point out to others how strikingly similar your post sounded.

I did, and had already clarified my post.




Boy, you sound a lot like trump. You 'did not add', the next sentence 'you added a lot'.

That's cool, except now you're are taking two different statements with two different subjects and pretending that they are a contradiction. If that isn't a deliberate misrepresentation of the facts just like Trump (TRIGGERED!), then I don't know what is. [strikethrough because, without that, you're the only one getting political. ]

The first subject was the quote where you accused me of "inventing" things and adding "much" to a quote of you, which I did not do. The second clearly says that I added to my reply, which make my reply the subject. Unless my reply consists solely of your quote, then you have not identified the contradiction you hoped for and fail even at being pedantic. Only in Trump's [your] reality does my reply = a quote of you.

To jog your memory, here is where you accused me of this:

Note how much you had to invent rather than quote to make your point. Why don't you just put 'make tv great again' in the 'quote' also?

I didn't add a single word in the quote, and your statement is still there (you did not "clarify" that one). You know what I did add? Bold for emphasis and a hyphen for you to see how we were reading it (similar to how Trump talks). Heck, I don't know how that part was even supposed to be readable any other way. Here is that full sentence:

A lot of little things very good, and a few big things poorly.

I'm going to guess that you accidentally (and amusingly) left a word out between the first "things" and "very." So what? The only thing notable about it was how much it made your post sound like Trump. Go ahead and take it personally if you must. Guess someone needs to tell me to lighten up too, but, man, cry some more, why don't ya? Alternatively, you could chose to laugh with us.

I'm off to upvote Destrektor's post.

 

[Craig234]

You say you did not add anything. Here's what you wrote:

"I'm gonna do some good things. Very good. YUGE things. Believe me. The other guys have, big, big flaws. We don't want that. Also, I'm gonna do a lot of little things good too. Can't forget about those. They're very good. The few big things from the others are all done poorly. Bad ratings. Low energy. Not good."

Almost all of that is made up, and the rest is distortion. I've not much use for less than honest people, so that's that for this exchange, donald.

 

[Ichinisan]

I don't think talking about the size of things qualifies as being a trump thing,
...

Hands.

You say you did not add anything. Here's what you wrote:

"I'm gonna do some good things. Very good. YUGE things. Believe me. The other guys have, big, big flaws. We don't want that. Also, I'm gonna do a lot of little things good too. Can't forget about those. They're very good. The few big things from the others are all done poorly. Bad ratings. Low energy. Not good."

Almost all of that is made up, and the rest is distortion. I've not much use for less than honest people, so that's that for this exchange, donald.

He was providing an example of mock Trumpspeak. Sheesh. He won’t shut up until you do, unfortunately.

[edit]

Here’s an in-depth analysis of the way he speaks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFo_BV-UzI

 

[CZroe]

You say you did not add anything. Here's what you wrote:

"I'm gonna do some good things. Very good. YUGE things. Believe me. The other guys have, big, big flaws. We don't want that. Also, I'm gonna do a lot of little things good too. Can't forget about those. They're very good. The few big things from the others are all done poorly. Bad ratings. Low energy. Not good."

Almost all of that is made up, and the rest is distortion. I've not much use for less than honest people, so that's that for this exchange, donald.

Guess you really do want to cry about it some more.

"Almost all?" How about *actually* all? I said your post sounded like a parody of a Trump talk and I followed that up with my own parody of Trump to demonstrate.

It was my blatant parody of a Trump speech specifically tailored to help you realize how much your post sounded like an intentional parody of a Trump speech. Trump constantly talks in vague terms ("things"), insults the size of things he doesn't like, brags about the size of things he does like, downplays the size of things he doesn't want to discuss with specifics, labels with simple words ("good" and "bad"), and emphasizes these simple and vague labels with "very" (or the implied size), etc. There is a formula to a Trump parody.

You know: Big things, little things, some good, some very bad.

Now that you know, try making a Trump parody of your own! Oh wait: you already did... unintentionally... to our great amusement.

I don't think talking about the size of things qualifies as being a trump thing, ...

Hands.


He was providing an example of mock Trumpspeak. Sheesh. He won’t shut up until you do, unfortunately.

The wall just got 10 feet taller. *colbert*

 

[Craig234]

Hands.

And crowd sizes. And bank accounts. And vote counts. But simply saying there are big and small things isn't a trump thing.

He was providing an example of mock Trumpspeak. Sheesh. He won’t shut up until you do, unfortunately.

Now that was a bit funny.

 

[destrekor]

Hey, y'all, back on topic!

And yeesh, I hadn't imagined such an unassuming little observation would turn into such a big deal.

As others stated for me, I was just curious for the further explanation, and wanted to make light of how vague and generic that statement was, where it was critical, but without any useful information to follow.


I'll read your deeper analysis later, but come on, if you hadn't planned on previously providing more depth to your statement, why say it at all? It's actually offensively short, vague, and pointless, other than it being meant to rile up others while you then retreat. Did you just intend to dip in, troll, and leave?

 

[Craig234]

Hey, y'all, back on topic!

And yeesh, I hadn't imagined such an unassuming little observation would turn into such a big deal.

As others stated for me, I was just curious for the further explanation, and wanted to make light of how vague and generic that statement was, where it was critical, but without any useful information to follow.


I'll read your deeper analysis later, but come on, if you hadn't planned on previously providing more depth to your statement, why say it at all? It's actually offensively short, vague, and pointless, other than it being meant to rile up others while you then retreat. Did you just intend to dip in, troll, and leave?

And I find your comment clueless but you posted it anyway. If you don't get the brief comment, you can ignore it.

It's like saying 'trump has big flaws' and expecting people to know what you mean without a long explanation - but someone might not.

And YOU could have simply politely asked for that explanation you wanted.

But you didn't do that.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I agree, this sounds like a Trump speech and denial.

It's TV, not everyone is going to like it and well...frankly don't care why. I hate lots of popular things. It's the way it goes.

 

[Craig234]

I agree, this sounds like a Trump speech and denial.

It's TV, not everyone is going to like it and well...frankly don't care why. I hate lots of popular things. It's the way it goes.

You sound like Kellyanne Conway.

Confused.

 

[destrekor]

And I find your comment clueless but you posted it anyway. If you don't get the brief comment, you can ignore it.

It's like saying 'trump has big flaws' and expecting people to know what you mean without a long explanation - but someone might not.

And YOU could have simply politely asked for that explanation you wanted.

But you didn't do that.

I didn't because I didn't feel a need to parrot the poster above me who asked for exactly that. Was my comment essentially unnecessary? Yup.

And, as noted, others understood exactly what I was referencing. I'm sorry you found offense. It's like referencing Bushisms. It isn't political, it's a cultural reference.

You say I should have ignored your brief comment, if I didn't get it... is there a reference there that I missed? If so, then we both missed references.

I was hoping for this to be a brief non-interesting side note but apparently someone got all riled up as if personally offended. If Trump's your boy, cool, I don't care, this isn't the thread for it. When I was growing up I found amusement in the Bushisms yet I also liked his politics (at the time). Don't make mountains out of mole hills, it ain't personal.