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Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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Took me a couple episodes to get back into it and remind/explain things I'd forgotten.
 

dmoney1980

Platinum Member
Jan 17, 2008
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Just finished binging with my wife. Awesome season, I liked it as much as the first! I can't help but see a lot of Half Life influences in this show, along with the obvious Spielberg themes
 
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Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
18,592
7,673
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Just finished binging with my wife. Awesome season, I liked it as much as the first! I can't help but see a lot of Half Life influences in this show, along with the obvious Spielberg themes

Yea agree, it really went all out in the last episode. And of course the ending, the very ending was sure to be a hint of a new season? The effects were exceptional for a TV series. And the kids do a real good job of acting and wynona character is less annoying and in fact works well. And what's his name from LOTR worked well in the season. At first all I could think was man that dude has gotten fat but the character he played made me forget all about that. Overall the characters just seem to fit into their roles even the douche bag camaro owner Mr Pretty boy. Damn he was cute, from a manly perspective But his car's rear quarter panels were probably all sand blasted from all the burnouts in gravel he does.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
52,930
5,802
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I'm 5 episodes into this season and it's just alright. It's not nearly as good as season 1 was to me. It's like they are trying a bit too hard this time around. I also feel like 5 episodes in barely anything has happened. I'm going to finish the season for sure but this season doesn't have me wanting to watch the next one nearly as bad as season 1 did.

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I also want to say that I didn't think the first season was the greatest show ever like many people did. I thought season 1 was as bit overhyped in general. It's good but far from the best show even on Netflix.
 
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ImpulsE69

Lifer
Jan 8, 2010
14,946
1,077
126
They are making 4 seasons and then ending it (assuming story is there). Season 3 due in 2019. But even the creators are like "really..what more can happen to these kids in a year" so I'm not sure they have a good idea yet.
 

Loop2kil

Platinum Member
Mar 28, 2004
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I'm 5 episodes into this season and it's just alright. It's not nearly as good as season 1 was to me. It's like they are trying a bit too hard this time around. I also feel like 5 episodes in barely anything has happened. I'm going to finish the season for sure but this season doesn't have me wanting to watch the next one nearly as bad as season 1 did.
That's kinda how I felt about this season...it felt like I was watching a reboot of Aliens when the alien-dogs starting chasing/killing people. That part killed it for me but it's still watchable and mildly enjoyable.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
30,383
912
126
There are spoilers for the majority of the season in my post by the way.

I thought season two was fine... but that's it. There were a few storylines that just weren't that good. The worst part was probably the two kids from California. The girl felt a little tacked on, and mostly served as a dividing mechanism (between the two Dustin and Lucas, and El and Mike). The brother's character and even looks felt like a straight-up rip-off of Henry Bowers from Stephen King's IT. They even gave him the emotionally abusive father as a nice cherry on top. Although, the problem is that his arc just felt... useless.

El's arc was also quite useless. She ends up going to find her mom, which is fine; however, that just serves as a foil to get her to find Eight. The problem is that the whole Chicago arc was about El deciding to not follow a path of vengeance and to go back to help her friends, but nothing prior to that arc ever gives us the idea that she's in some inner-turmoil over whether she should be angry against her former captors. (That was more or less a plot point during season one.) Most of the stuff prior to her leaving was her being distraught over Hopper keeping her cooped up. Oh, and Mike's reaction when hearing about that was... a bit over the top.

One thing that was a bit jarring was how they'd jump around chronologically, which mostly occurred when dealing with El on her own. For example, they show her going to dive in to talk to her mom, but they wait a while to actually do it. What isn't apparent is that they're actually going back in time to show that scene. You only realize that El's events are happening concurrently when she's near the end of her arc and she sees Hopper at the console in the Hawkin's Lab basement when the soldiers were being ambushed, which is something we saw earlier.

The main story was fine, but it didn't feel as "tight" as dealing with a single monster.
 
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Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
18,592
7,673
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I watched the after show show they have on netflix. I don't normally watch stuff like that but it was actually interesting. And one thing I noticed was everyone including the writers are young as shit, They’re fucking kids!
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,806
29,558
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I watched the after show show they have on netflix. I don't normally watch stuff like that but it was actually interesting. And one thing I noticed was everyone including the writers are young as shit, their fucking kids!

their fucking kids did what???
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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452
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There are spoilers for the majority of the season in my post by the way.

I thought season two was fine... but that's it. There were a few storylines that just weren't that good. The worst part was probably the two kids from California. The girl felt a little tacked on, and mostly served as a dividing mechanism (between the two Dustin and Lucas, and El and Mike). The brother's character and even looks felt like a straight-up rip-off of Henry Bowers from Stephen King's IT. They even gave him the emotionally abusive father as a nice cherry on top. Although, the problem is that his arc just felt... useless.

El's arc was also quite useless. She ends up going to find her mom, which is fine; however, that just serves as a foil to get her to find Eight. The problem is that the whole Chicago arc was about El deciding to not follow a path of vengeance and to go back to help her friends, but nothing prior to that arc ever gives us the idea that she's in some inner-turmoil over whether she should be angry against her former captors. (That was more or less a plot point during season one.) Most of the stuff prior to her leaving was her being distraught over Hopper keeping her cooped up. Oh, and Mike's reaction when hearing about that was... a bit over the top.

One thing that was a bit jarring was how they'd jump around chronologically, which mostly occurred when dealing with El on her own. For example, they show her going to dive in to talk to her mom, but they wait a while to actually do it. What isn't apparent is that they're actually going back in time to show that scene. You only realize that El's events are happening concurrently when she's near the end of her arc and she sees Hopper at the console in the Hawkin's Lab basement when the soldiers were being ambushed, which is something we saw earlier.

The main story was fine, but it didn't feel as "tight" as dealing with a single monster.

I thought some of the arcs would have been better if the season was longer. 9 episodes isn't enough for everything they were trying to cram in there. I agree that California kids weren't fleshed out much, and pretty much useless. I think they used her as a way to get a female back into the group with El being isolated.

I thought her tracking down her mom and that story was interesting enough, but it was over with so quickly there wasn't enough time to build much drama/emotion into it so I don't think it had enough impact.

The jumps in time were hard to follow at first, but once you recognize how much longer El's hair is in the present it makes it easier to tell when it's one of the "past" sequences.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
30,383
912
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I thought her tracking down her mom and that story was interesting enough, but it was over with so quickly there wasn't enough time to build much drama/emotion into it so I don't think it had enough impact.

I had no problem with El finding her mom. It's just that finding her mom was a stop in the road to finding Eight, which really didn't do anything for El. I mean... it challenged El to be lenient toward one of her captors, but you normally do something like that with a character that had gone through an arc that specifically related to that culmination. El's previous actions in the season had nothing to do with that. I assume it was a quick and dirty way to show El maturing or whatever.

The jumps in time were hard to follow at first, but once you recognize how much longer El's hair is in the present it makes it easier to tell when it's one of the "past" sequences.

Oh, no... I don't mean the scenes after El escaped from the Upside Down, which happened right after season one. I mean the organization of scenes in the second half of the season. They showed El about to dive in to talk to her mom, then they go back to Hawkins for a while, and then go back to El. the thing is... in El's timeline, none of the Hawkins stuff has happened yet. This isn't readily apparent until the end of the Chicago arc when she dives in and sees Hopper at the console, which we saw an episode prior. Things were just getting all wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey!
 

CountZero

Golden Member
Jul 10, 2001
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I had no problem with El finding her mom. It's just that finding her mom was a stop in the road to finding Eight, which really didn't do anything for El. I mean... it challenged El to be lenient toward one of her captors, but you normally do something like that with a character that had gone through an arc that specifically related to that culmination. El's previous actions in the season had nothing to do with that. I assume it was a quick and dirty way to show El maturing or whatever.



Oh, no... I don't mean the scenes after El escaped from the Upside Down, which happened right after season one. I mean the organization of scenes in the second half of the season. They showed El about to dive in to talk to her mom, then they go back to Hawkins for a while, and then go back to El. the thing is... in El's timeline, none of the Hawkins stuff has happened yet. This isn't readily apparent until the end of the Chicago arc when she dives in and sees Hopper at the console, which we saw an episode prior. Things were just getting all wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey!

I don't view El's journey as having anything to do with deciding about being for/against vengeance. The big theme for El this season was home. Over and over she was told she was home. She left to find home. She found her mom but that wasn't really home. She found her "sister" but that wasn't really home. In the end she figured out home was Hawkins. It was Hopper, Mike and the rest. The placement of Ep 7 (the Chicago one) was weird, but the arc made sense.

Even on the vengeance angle he only lived because he has kids, she isn't against killing per se but she isn't keen to have kids grow up without a dad, with a broken home. To me it all ties up around her feeling out what home means.
 
Mar 16, 2005
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Episode 7 seemed like a mini pilot to spin off 8's character. I don't think it worked


11 is starting to get boring with her powers and turning into a cliche X-woman.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
48,518
5,340
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I liked Season 2, it was fun! Still a bit over-hyped, but it has a good heart to it & I like the frills, like the 80's musical sounds & the tron-style slow-roll-in title sequence. The pacing was more fun because they kept the story moving pretty much every episode, since they had already established the foundation in the first season. They left plenty of room for future stories as well. Nielsen said about 15 million people watched ST2 in the first three days, so hopefully it gets renewed for a second season!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2017/11/02/nielsen-stranger-things-netflix-ratings/826396001/
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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They are making 4 seasons and then ending it (assuming story is there). Season 3 due in 2019. But even the creators are like "really..what more can happen to these kids in a year" so I'm not sure they have a good idea yet.

Ah, nice...although 2019 is forever away!!

imo they have a lot of room to explore the story. There are obviously at least 10 other kids, assuming 11 was the last one (since she was the most recent one with Papa). I wasn't really a big fan of 8's story because that whole punk storyline vibe didn't really seem to fit with the rest of the tone of Stranger Things, and I'd really rather not see it become another X-Men type of show, because I like the Goonies adventure feel a lot more for this particular series.

If they can tighten up the story, I think they could get a solid 10 seasons out of it. The problem is, that's hard to do when the show is live, and as the kids physically grow older IRL. But there's so much to cover...there's the government angle & possibly the Russian angle, there's the core group of kids vs. the giant virus monster, there's the other 10 kids & 8's team hunting down the workers...plenty of stuff to keep a really interesting storyline going on for awhile without getting boring. I do feel like both seasons lacked some tone in certain areas, and could have been tightened up, especially the first season, but I enjoyed watching both seasons...it was fun just to have a fun TV show to watch again!
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
63,355
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I liked season 2. Were there glaring plot holes? Sure...but just about every TV show has some...some worse than others. I agree that "Mad Max" and her puke step brother really didn't fit right...not sure what was up with that...BUT, overall, this season was as good as season 1...and I hope they keel it going.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
48,518
5,340
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I liked season 2. Were there glaring plot holes? Sure...but just about every TV show has some...some worse than others. I agree that "Mad Max" and her puke step brother really didn't fit right...not sure what was up with that...BUT, overall, this season was as good as season 1...and I hope they keel it going.

I liked Mad Max, but I didn't really get the step-brother angle either...that's what I meant about wanting them to tighten up the script. Like, he might play out long-term, especially with that moment he had with the mom, and fighting with Mr. Hair, etc., but his placement was just kind of so random in season 2. I was wondering if he was going to get eating by a demidog or something at some point, but then they had that scene where his father roughed him up, so they're obviously going to be using that at some point in the future for something or other.

It doesn't really feel drawn out, just loose is all.
 

ImpulsE69

Lifer
Jan 8, 2010
14,946
1,077
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I really thought that the end game in season 2 would be about the step brother getting possessed or something. I think they missed a 'cliche' with that, however the whole big mean older brother thing is a cliche itself from 80's movies. I agree the punk thing stuck out way more than it should have, it didn't fit quite right, but that was also an 80's thing. My guess is that most if not all of the rest of the other 'special kids' are dead.
 

Ancalagon44

Diamond Member
Feb 17, 2010
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Billy the step brother seems way too old to be in school. I expected him to be like 30 or something. I mean I know the actor is probably around 30, but I thought the character was that age too.
 
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