Street Fighter 4 Official Thread

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bl4ckfl4g

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Originally posted by: James3shin
The game has slowed down too much for my liking I'm used to being able to advance and parry through people that try to play defensively, now it's a lot of fireball battles and a game of position. Going to be a tough transition for me.


I like both styles. I hope they release 3s on xbl with improved netcode. They don't have to do anything to the graphics just fix the netcode.

SF4 is gonna be a big change to people that are used to 3s and not that used to ST. Combos are hard in SF4 cuz they are mostly links. Gonna take alot of practice.
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Oh shiiiit, look what I found:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1221345_1124.html

Yeah I think the TE is still better and cheaper when you factor in overseas shipping and exchange rates and stuff.

I paid my TE off last weekend! I preordered mine in Nov. So Gamestop better get me one.

Did you watch the video? It's the actual sim/sagat final from Japan! It's actually not that exciting of a match, nothing groundbreaking...Sagat was useless though
 

bl4ckfl4g

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Feb 13, 2007
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oh haha I thought you meant the stick that was pictured. I saw the match. That dude Iyo has been raping if you look at the national jpn rankings for the last 2 months. He has steadily been moving up. Not surprised he did well but surprised he won and even more surprised that Daigo lost early.
 

buzzsaw13

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Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Oh shiiiit, look what I found:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1221345_1124.html

Yeah I think the TE is still better and cheaper when you factor in overseas shipping and exchange rates and stuff.

I paid my TE off last weekend! I preordered mine in Nov. So Gamestop better get me one.

The PS3 version is essentially an HRAP3 with an SF4 graphic on it, which isn't too bad. Sanwa stick and Hori Buttons. It isn't that expensive to swap out sanwa buttons, and you should be able to find it all over ebay, so shipping won't be too much.
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
21,200
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Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Oh shiiiit, look what I found:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1221345_1124.html

Yeah I think the TE is still better and cheaper when you factor in overseas shipping and exchange rates and stuff.

I paid my TE off last weekend! I preordered mine in Nov. So Gamestop better get me one.

The PS3 version is essentially an HRAP3 with an SF4 graphic on it, which isn't too bad. Sanwa stick and Hori Buttons. It isn't that expensive to swap out sanwa buttons, and you should be able to find it all over ebay, so shipping won't be too much.

As far as I know, that's not true. The $150 stick is all Sanwa parts and is exactly what they use in the arcade.
 

buzzsaw13

Diamond Member
Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Oh shiiiit, look what I found:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1221345_1124.html

Yeah I think the TE is still better and cheaper when you factor in overseas shipping and exchange rates and stuff.

I paid my TE off last weekend! I preordered mine in Nov. So Gamestop better get me one.

The PS3 version is essentially an HRAP3 with an SF4 graphic on it, which isn't too bad. Sanwa stick and Hori Buttons. It isn't that expensive to swap out sanwa buttons, and you should be able to find it all over ebay, so shipping won't be too much.

As far as I know, that's not true. The $150 stick is all Sanwa parts and is exactly what they use in the arcade.

I meant the Hori stick in the link the link
 

Dari

Lifer
Oct 25, 2002
17,134
38
91
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Oh shiiiit, look what I found:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1221345_1124.html

Yeah I think the TE is still better and cheaper when you factor in overseas shipping and exchange rates and stuff.

I paid my TE off last weekend! I preordered mine in Nov. So Gamestop better get me one.

The PS3 version is essentially an HRAP3 with an SF4 graphic on it, which isn't too bad. Sanwa stick and Hori Buttons. It isn't that expensive to swap out sanwa buttons, and you should be able to find it all over ebay, so shipping won't be too much.

As far as I know, that's not true. The $150 stick is all Sanwa parts and is exactly what they use in the arcade.

I meant the Hori stick in the link the link

I have the HRAP3 and, while nice, I hate the fact that the directional buttons are 8 ways rather than a smooth 360 degrees. And these arcade sticks are also light. I wish I could make them heavier.
 

pennylane

Diamond Member
Apr 28, 2002
6,077
1
0
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Oh shiiiit, look what I found:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1221345_1124.html

Yeah I think the TE is still better and cheaper when you factor in overseas shipping and exchange rates and stuff.

I paid my TE off last weekend! I preordered mine in Nov. So Gamestop better get me one.

The PS3 version is essentially an HRAP3 with an SF4 graphic on it, which isn't too bad. Sanwa stick and Hori Buttons. It isn't that expensive to swap out sanwa buttons, and you should be able to find it all over ebay, so shipping won't be too much.

As far as I know, that's not true. The $150 stick is all Sanwa parts and is exactly what they use in the arcade.

I meant the Hori stick in the link the link

I have the HRAP3 and, while nice, I hate the fact that the directional buttons are 8 ways rather than a smooth 360 degrees. And these arcade sticks are also light. I wish I could make them heavier.

I also have the HRAP3. When you say directional buttons, are you referring to the.... stick? All sticks are like that. They only register in 8 directions. I don't mind the lightness, but if you wanted to make it heavy, opening it up is easy enough and there is space to put stuff in to add weight.

The HRAP3 is a very good stick. Sanwa stick, Hori buttons. Swapping out buttons for Sanwas (or Seimitsus) is also very easy. The SF4 TE has a few advantages aside from being all-Sanwa to begin with. It's heavier, and you can replace the stick with any other stick (some or all Seimitsus don't fit on the HRAP3). It also has a few bells and whistles, like the ability to tuck in the cord inside a compartment.
 

Dari

Lifer
Oct 25, 2002
17,134
38
91
Originally posted by: fanerman91
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Oh shiiiit, look what I found:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1221345_1124.html

Yeah I think the TE is still better and cheaper when you factor in overseas shipping and exchange rates and stuff.

I paid my TE off last weekend! I preordered mine in Nov. So Gamestop better get me one.

The PS3 version is essentially an HRAP3 with an SF4 graphic on it, which isn't too bad. Sanwa stick and Hori Buttons. It isn't that expensive to swap out sanwa buttons, and you should be able to find it all over ebay, so shipping won't be too much.

As far as I know, that's not true. The $150 stick is all Sanwa parts and is exactly what they use in the arcade.

I meant the Hori stick in the link the link

I have the HRAP3 and, while nice, I hate the fact that the directional buttons are 8 ways rather than a smooth 360 degrees. And these arcade sticks are also light. I wish I could make them heavier.

I also have the HRAP3. When you say directional buttons, are you referring to the.... stick? All sticks are like that. They only register in 8 directions. I don't mind the lightness, but if you wanted to make it heavy, opening it up is easy enough and there is space to put stuff in to add weight.

The HRAP3 is a very good stick. Sanwa stick, Hori buttons. Swapping out buttons for Sanwas (or Seimitsus) is also very easy. The SF4 TE has a few advantages aside from being all-Sanwa to begin with. It's heavier, and you can replace the stick with any other stick (some or all Seimitsus don't fit on the HRAP3). It also has a few bells and whistles, like the ability to tuck in the cord inside a compartment.

SO there are no arcade joysticks that have a smooth 360 degree rotation like we get at the arcade? That's a shame because I was going to start looking for them.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: fanerman91
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Oh shiiiit, look what I found:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1221345_1124.html

Yeah I think the TE is still better and cheaper when you factor in overseas shipping and exchange rates and stuff.

I paid my TE off last weekend! I preordered mine in Nov. So Gamestop better get me one.

The PS3 version is essentially an HRAP3 with an SF4 graphic on it, which isn't too bad. Sanwa stick and Hori Buttons. It isn't that expensive to swap out sanwa buttons, and you should be able to find it all over ebay, so shipping won't be too much.

As far as I know, that's not true. The $150 stick is all Sanwa parts and is exactly what they use in the arcade.

I meant the Hori stick in the link the link

I have the HRAP3 and, while nice, I hate the fact that the directional buttons are 8 ways rather than a smooth 360 degrees. And these arcade sticks are also light. I wish I could make them heavier.

I also have the HRAP3. When you say directional buttons, are you referring to the.... stick? All sticks are like that. They only register in 8 directions. I don't mind the lightness, but if you wanted to make it heavy, opening it up is easy enough and there is space to put stuff in to add weight.

The HRAP3 is a very good stick. Sanwa stick, Hori buttons. Swapping out buttons for Sanwas (or Seimitsus) is also very easy. The SF4 TE has a few advantages aside from being all-Sanwa to begin with. It's heavier, and you can replace the stick with any other stick (some or all Seimitsus don't fit on the HRAP3). It also has a few bells and whistles, like the ability to tuck in the cord inside a compartment.

SO there are no arcade joysticks that have a smooth 360 degree rotation like we get at the arcade? That's a shame because I was going to start looking for them.

you can buy a 360 one from happ controls.

i used to have a 360 degree one in my Mas stick, and honestly, I prefer the 8 way clicking one over the 360 degree one.

EDIT:

and i haven't played sf4 in the arcade, or arcade games for like 5 years for that matter, but all of the games I played in the arcade had 8way sticks, not 360 degree ones, and my ki2 cabinet has 8 way sticks in it.
 

pennylane

Diamond Member
Apr 28, 2002
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: fanerman91
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Oh shiiiit, look what I found:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1221345_1124.html

Yeah I think the TE is still better and cheaper when you factor in overseas shipping and exchange rates and stuff.

I paid my TE off last weekend! I preordered mine in Nov. So Gamestop better get me one.

The PS3 version is essentially an HRAP3 with an SF4 graphic on it, which isn't too bad. Sanwa stick and Hori Buttons. It isn't that expensive to swap out sanwa buttons, and you should be able to find it all over ebay, so shipping won't be too much.

As far as I know, that's not true. The $150 stick is all Sanwa parts and is exactly what they use in the arcade.

I meant the Hori stick in the link the link

I have the HRAP3 and, while nice, I hate the fact that the directional buttons are 8 ways rather than a smooth 360 degrees. And these arcade sticks are also light. I wish I could make them heavier.

I also have the HRAP3. When you say directional buttons, are you referring to the.... stick? All sticks are like that. They only register in 8 directions. I don't mind the lightness, but if you wanted to make it heavy, opening it up is easy enough and there is space to put stuff in to add weight.

The HRAP3 is a very good stick. Sanwa stick, Hori buttons. Swapping out buttons for Sanwas (or Seimitsus) is also very easy. The SF4 TE has a few advantages aside from being all-Sanwa to begin with. It's heavier, and you can replace the stick with any other stick (some or all Seimitsus don't fit on the HRAP3). It also has a few bells and whistles, like the ability to tuck in the cord inside a compartment.

SO there are no arcade joysticks that have a smooth 360 degree rotation like we get at the arcade? That's a shame because I was going to start looking for them.

you can buy a 360 one from happ controls.

i used to have a 360 degree one in my Mas stick, and honestly, I prefer the 8 way clicking one over the 360 degree one.

EDIT:

and i haven't played sf4 in the arcade, or arcade games for like 5 years for that matter, but all of the games I played in the arcade had 8way sticks, not 360 degree ones, and my ki2 cabinet has 8 way sticks in it.

Hmm. Maybe American sticks like happ or mas have 360 degree rotation. I'm not sure. I'm new to sticks myself. I like the 8-way sticks because it tells me when the direction I'm trying to input registers.
 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: fanerman91
Hmm. Maybe American sticks like happ or mas have 360 degree rotation. I'm not sure. I'm new to sticks myself. I like the 8-way sticks because it tells me when the direction I'm trying to input registers.

happ is a joystick company, they sell both types, the mas you can get either one as well.

i think it's purely preference.

i am like you and enjoy the 8way because you can hear it click when you push it in directions. the 360 degree one makes no clicks or anything.
 

Dari

Lifer
Oct 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: fanerman91
Hmm. Maybe American sticks like happ or mas have 360 degree rotation. I'm not sure. I'm new to sticks myself. I like the 8-way sticks because it tells me when the direction I'm trying to input registers.

happ is a joystick company, they sell both types, the mas you can get either one as well.

i think it's purely preference.

i am like you and enjoy the 8way because you can hear it click when you push it in directions. the 360 degree one makes no clicks or anything.

I tried ordering from Mas last year. Two fucking months later my order still hadn't been shipped so I canceled it. Mom 'n Pop or not, they are extremely unreliable.
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
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Look at akihabarashop.jp and lizardlick.com for parts - if you like a 360 rotation, you'd probably like the P360. Between the 4-gate and 8-gate designs, it's all just personal preference and what people are used to. They obviously all register the diagonal directions so usage doesn't change too much.
 

bl4ckfl4g

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Feb 13, 2007
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Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: Modeps
New Roster Trailer

wow... I hope there's not a lot of story or anything as the voice acting is quite bad for many of the characters. Gameplay looks bad ass though.

i love that trailer. Some of th voices suck but a cool thing about SF4 is that you can individually toggle each voice for Japanese, which I think will show subtitles. So like I'd leave Cammy's, ElFuerte's, etc. and change Chun-Li's, Akuma's and others.
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: Modeps
New Roster Trailer

wow... I hope there's not a lot of story or anything as the voice acting is quite bad for many of the characters. Gameplay looks bad ass though.

i love that trailer. Some of th voices suck but a cool thing about SF4 is that you can individually toggle each voice for Japanese, which I think will show subtitles. So like I'd leave Cammy's, ElFuerte's, etc. and change Chun-Li's, Akuma's and others.

Didn't know that. That might help quite a bit.
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
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I just watched a few more vid's from Japan's national tournament...Iyo's Dhalsim looks amazing. The guy barely lost any rounds and it didn't matter if he went up against a Shoto hero, charge hero or no-projectile hero. His zoning was perfect and no one could even get close.

Although, for those of you playing already - I watched one guy, who was pretty good, play Sagat and he would consistently FADC out of an uppercut just to tag them with a kick. I can understand when he has the ultra lined up and can combo from the juggled kick, but why would you waste meter just to get an additional hit in?
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
21,200
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LOL, anybody watching the money match vids by Gootecks between Kai and Fatbear at Cal Regionals? The audience is hilarious. Good matches up through vid 2.
 

buzzsaw13

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Originally posted by: EvilYoda

Although, for those of you playing already - I watched one guy, who was pretty good, play Sagat and he would consistently FADC out of an uppercut just to tag them with a kick. I can understand when he has the ultra lined up and can combo from the juggled kick, but why would you waste meter just to get an additional hit in?

Meter is easy to come by IMO, so using up 50 percent to get an extra 140 damage AND 200 stun is definitely worth it.
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
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blarg...I just dropped by Arizona Mills' Gameworks and the SF4 cab was missing! The guy said it was "on vacation" for the weekend, on loan for the Phoenix Comicon. bastards...
 
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