Ok..first off.
I don't go to strip clubs, I think they are boring and over priced. If I want to go out and drink a few with the guys I'd much rather play pool, darts, poker, etc. Strip clubs are BORING. That's JMO of course.
However I don't have any problem with people who just go to look...whatever...if they enjoy it and it's not hurting anyones feelings then it's cool.
If you have a girl you really love and she's uncomfortable with you going, maybe you need to talk to her about it a bit yeah? If it really makes her that unhappy maybe you shouldn't go. I have to agree with Nik on that much....if you'd rather have strip clubs than your wife/gf you really are a sad case, and if your woman is unhappy about you going to strip clubs, well maybe you just need to give that up for her yeah? Is she worth it?
However, it can go to far. Someone who tells me I am not allowed to go to a strip club or I'm "off her list", can go f**k herself...pardon the profanity.
If the same woman came to me and explained to me that it makes her uncomfortable and she would rather I didn't, that's fine. Better than fine in fact, it's excellent, communication is GOOD. And I would personally choose not to go in an effort to satisfy her, that's my choice, I choose to try and make her happy. But express it like a demand...well be beligerant and expect beligerance back.
I'm not trying to come off like a "macho" guy here. I expect the same treatment. If I told a girl outright you cant NOT do <whatever>. She should tell me to go to hell. If I didn't like something she was doing I'd tell her that, and explain my feelings to her. But ultimately the decisions is hers, *not* mine.
But yeah a man who continues to go to strip clubs when he knows it's hurting his wife is a sorry sack of crap. But giving him an ultimatium is a really crappy way to deal with this.
However, I would like to address the absolutes people are flinging around.
Not trying to pick on you guys here, but why do you assume your view is the only right one?
Either way you look at it...
Guy doesn't like strip clubs and respects his woman enough to only want her. I guess this is the "conservative" viewpoint...but whatever, I don't give a crap about the labels. That's the way the guy is...cool. Especially if he gets a girl that wants that feeling.
But not all people are like that...some people are more open and don't care. Assuming your partner feels the same way, why are they a lower form of life than you?
Your wife doesn't have anything against porn, and maybe *GASP* she even likes herself. So you enjoy porn with your wife...why does this make a man sleazy?
And for the "liberals" here...the other side feels that the man should repsect his woman enough to not engange in porn.....and if the woman expects such...why does that make them high and mighty?
Their viewpoint differs from yours and that makes them high and mighty???
Hmmm...seems Nik isn't hte only one on a high horse in this thread.
Seriously guys...why can't we all just get along?
Some men feel that this stuff is wrong, some women feel that men should respect them enough to not look at this stuff.
However some people of both sexes don't care about that sort of thing and don't feel that it's disrespectful for thier partner to engage in such activities?
Whatever "such activities" includes depends entirely on the people involved.
Now who is going to judge which of these two positions is right and wrong? Obviously a lot of people. Clearly nik feels very strongly about his view, but obviously from the other side people feel just as strongly.
What you guys are all right and Nik is wrong because there are more of you? I'm sorry but that is pretty weak.