Strongest military force in the World

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BurnItDwn

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North Korea "Per Capita", they have a huge shitton of artillery and munitions. They have a large number of tanks and all kinds of guns guns guns.

What they lack in terms of QUALITY of hardware, they make up for it in quantity.

Also the entire country being brainwashed by the totalitarian dictatorship for 3 generations ... that means the soldiers are going to be damn strong, good, and fearless.

North Koreas government is like a fucking hornets nest. You try to clean it off, but those little fucker will sting the shit out of you.
 

Ns1

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North Korea "Per Capita", they have a huge shitton of artillery and munitions. They have a large number of tanks and all kinds of guns guns guns.

What they lack in terms of QUALITY of hardware, they make up for it in quantity.

Also the entire country being brainwashed by the totalitarian dictatorship for 3 generations ... that means the soldiers are going to be damn strong, good, and fearless.

North Koreas government is like a fucking hornets nest. You try to clean it off, but those little fucker will sting the shit out of you.

seems accurate.
 

MongGrel

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North Korea "Per Capita", they have a huge shitton of artillery and munitions. They have a large number of tanks and all kinds of guns guns guns.

What they lack in terms of QUALITY of hardware, they make up for it in quantity.

Also the entire country being brainwashed by the totalitarian dictatorship for 3 generations ... that means the soldiers are going to be damn strong, good, and fearless.

North Koreas government is like a fucking hornets nest. You try to clean it off, but those little fucker will sting the shit out of you.

Phpfft, you'd still have to transfer the army somehow to mean shit.

If North Korea ever did something really stupid, that whole area would be radioactive glass in 30 minutes.

China supports them for a buffer zone and lets them rant.



Globally, NK is pretty much China's version of a low rent neighborhood.
 
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poohbear

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Out of those I'd say Russia, though it's probably the US that is the most powerful. Not just because of fire power but because of overall world power, they can pretty much order a country to do/stop anything and that country has no choice but to comply. They can send FBI to raid people's houses etc.... They're actually working on a new law where they can do this to anyone who uses a VPN, for example.
No. That power is derived from having the biggest & most robust economy in the world. Didn't u ever play total war or any other RTS? When the money runs out, armies simply can't be fielded anymore.
 

tynopik

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keyword being pound for pound

Defensive or cross-border offensive operations
per capita: Israel (honorable mention Singapore)
per GDP: North Korea

Expeditionary operations
Only one country qualifies no matter what measure you're using
 
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Matthiasa

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Defensive or cross-border offensive operations
per capita: Israel (honorable mention Singapore)
per GDP: North Korea

Expeditionary operations
Only one country qualifies no matter what measure you're using

Current rankings for per capita are: Saudi Arabia ($6,909),Singapore ($2,385), Israel ($1,882).
Maybe not surprising Saudi Arabia also comes in first on percent of GDP on recent official lists as well.
 

tynopik

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Current rankings for per capita are: Saudi Arabia ($6,909),Singapore ($2,385), Israel ($1,882).
Maybe not surprising Saudi Arabia also comes in first on percent of GDP on recent official lists as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures_per_capita

I still stand by my rankings. It's one thing to spend a lot of money, it's another to be EFFECTIVE.

In the end, a military is only effective as the people who make it up and Israel's seem better trained and more committed. Also Israel's military is combat proven where as Saudi's isn't.

Who knows, they may prove me wrong, but right now Saudi's force doesn't impress regardless of how much they spend. (Not to mention Saudi is notorious for its wasteful spending)

(Another point to make is that Saudi's huge bump in defense spending is quite recent. It takes time to rebuild an army, so it's going to take more than just a handful of years of increased spending to build up their forces)
 
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rommelrommel

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Current rankings for per capita are: Saudi Arabia ($6,909),Singapore ($2,385), Israel ($1,882).
Maybe not surprising Saudi Arabia also comes in first on percent of GDP on recent official lists as well.

The Saudi military is really a domestic police force built to crush internal dissent. They would get wtfpwned by the Israelis in an open conflict.
 

Matthiasa

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The Saudi military is really a domestic police force built to crush internal dissent. They would get wtfpwned by the Israelis in an open conflict.

That depends on which side does the US take if Saudi Arabia and Israel start a conflict.

To be outspent by greater than 4 to 1 isn't trivial. Yes it is recent but it is still a lot of money.

Noting that from 2001-2012 per http://militarybudget.org/ that Saudi Arabia spent a total of $468,452,000,000 while Israel spent 193,517,000,000.
 
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tynopik

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To be outspent by greater than 4 to 1 isn't trivial. Yes it is recent but it is still a lot of money.

Noting that from 2001-2012 per http://militarybudget.org/ that Saudi Arabia spent a total of $468,452,000,000 while Israel spent 193,517,000,000.

but we're looking at per capita

Israel's population is 8.22 million so that comes out to $1,962/year/person for those 12 years

SA's population is 30.89 million so that comes out to $1,264/year/person for those 12 years

It's also not clear if that includes US military assistance to Israel which is on the order of $3 billion / year

Another point is Israel's compulsory military service, so they have a tremendous pool of trained personnel to draw from.

Israel: 176,500 active + 445,000 reserve = 621,000 total
Saudi Arabia: 440,000 active + 255,000 reserve = 695,000 total

Again remember this is a per capita comparison and Saudi Arabia has 3.7x as many people
 

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Poland has about a 1000 MBTs. So in a land war they'd hit pretty hard, and their forces are pretty well-trained.

Of the ones on the list, probably Israel. They are one of the few good conscript armies.
 

Art&Science

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North Korea. It is built for war.
We're talking pound-for-pound. I'll interprete that as I wish.
"As of 2016, with 5,889,000 paramilitary personnel, it is the largest Paramilitary organization on Earth. This number represents 25% of the population.[6] [7]" Wikipedia.

Big deal... a couple nukes solves that problem. Countries like the US, UK, France, Russia... even China, do not fear large traditional armies. If push comes to shove they will be obliterated from the air - and if push really comes to shove, they can be nuked off the map.
 

ultimatebob

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North Korea "Per Capita", they have a huge shitton of artillery and munitions. They have a large number of tanks and all kinds of guns guns guns.

What they lack in terms of QUALITY of hardware, they make up for it in quantity.

Also the entire country being brainwashed by the totalitarian dictatorship for 3 generations ... that means the soldiers are going to be damn strong, good, and fearless.

North Koreas government is like a fucking hornets nest. You try to clean it off, but those little fucker will sting the shit out of you.

North Korea's army is big, but obsolete and poorly maintained. I think any country with a large modern army could roll over them in a few days like the US did in Iraq.
 

tynopik

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North Korea's army is big, but obsolete and poorly maintained. I think any country with a large modern army could roll over them in a few days like the US did in Iraq.

i wouldn't take that bet

/me refers you to this little incident called 'The Korean War'
 

MongGrel

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i wouldn't take that bet

/me refers you to this little incident called 'The Korean War'

You mean the little incident where 200,000 Chinese troops joined in and Stalin started sending Soviet equipment/pilots after MacArthur crossed the 38th Parallel retaking South Korea ?
 

tynopik

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You mean the little incident where 200,000 Chinese troops joined in and Stalin started sending Soviet equipment/pilots after MacArthur crossed the 38th Parallel retaking South Korea ?

that wasn't for 3 months
MacArthur still had a long way to go to finish the Norks
the defenses are much much stronger now with tunnels everywhere

no one's conquering nork 'in a few days'
 

twinrider1

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Ok, if you want to count allied support, I think it defeats the whole premise. U.S. support tilts it to any NATO country, theoretically.


If you want to say who has the toughest individual soldier, I can accept an argument for Israel. But I don't see the point in applying some kind of pound for pound metric to a military force. It's asking which military force is the deadliest/most effective for its size. But if a country attacks another, they aren't leaving stuff behind just to keep it balanced.
Look at the stats
Even if you cut Russia's numbers in half, they still massively outnumber Israel's forces.
 

MongGrel

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Ok, if you want to count allied support, I think it defeats the whole premise. U.S. support tilts it to any NATO country, theoretically.

So I take it you mean having Chinese and Soviet support didn't tilt it again ?

It's pretty much a moot point on The Korean War these days, MacArthur wanted to Nuke China back then.

About like Patton wanted to invade Russia at the end of WWII.

that wasn't for 3 months
MacArthur still had a long way to go to finish the Norks



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uqjznmTp80



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