Students Storm Daily Cal; Newspaper Locks Down

[Iwentsouth]

The controversy stems from a Saturday-night fight in which as many as 50 people were involved, according to police. Four people involved in the fight were taken by ambulance to Alta Bates hospital. The most serious injury was a skull fracture suffered by a UC student when he was struck in the head with a bottle, allegedly by Gray.

Gray was released on Sunday, according to Berkeley police. An Alameda County District Attorney?s Office spokesman said Gray has not yet been charged.

On Tuesday, the Daily Californian ran a story about the fight and included a photograph of Gray, which they copied from a Cal Football publication.

The student group said Gray?s photo looked like a mug shot and accused the newspaper of racial profiling. The photograph and story, the group said, could adversely affect Gray?s collegiate career.

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Those leftists at Berkeley prove there all for the free press.

 

[Siddhartha]

nevermind

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
"Leftist" bashing is really tedious.

I completely agree.

 

[Iwentsouth]

Oh I forgot the rule. Only Japanese, Americans, Jews and Republicans can be bashed on this board.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: Iwentsouth
Oh I forgot the rule. Only Japanese, Americans, Jews and Republicans can be bashed on this board.

I'm not going to even bother to dignify that statement with a response.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Iwentsouth
Oh I forgot the rule. Only Japanese, Americans, Jews and Republicans can be bashed on this board.

I have been reading this forum for awhile I did not know about that rule. You must be projecting your values on other people.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
"Leftist" bashing is really tedious.

I completely agree.

No more tedious than all the other bashing going on here.

 

[UltraQuiet]

The dichotomy of the people who are at Berkley is simply amazing.

 

[Zebo]

Freedom of press is not freedom from consequenses. -Amused

 

[etech]

Free speech as long as it meets their agenda.

Censorship of the opposing view seems to be expressed quite often there.

 

[Corn]

Freedom of press is not freedom from consequenses. -Amused

Is that at direct verbatim quote from Amused, or did you take license with someome elses name and attribute a fictitious quote that might serve your purpose?

Yes, yes, "freedom of press is not freedom from consequences" so long as those consequences are legal. Here were have a few leftist liberals again demonstrating their belief that the law only protects themselves, and yet they aren't bound to obey it.

I wholly support the actions of the leftist liberals who are the subject of this thread. I also support the actions of the leftist liberals who support this illegal behavior in forums like this. Not because I actually support their behavior, mind you, but because it drives more and more over to my side. Good job.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Corn

Freedom of press is not freedom from consequenses. -Amused

Is that at direct verbatim quote from Amused, or did you take license with someome elses name and attribute a fictitious quote that might serve your purpose?

Yes, yes, "freedom of press is not freedom from consequences" so long as those consequences are legal. Here were have a few leftist liberals again demonstrating their belief that the law only protects themselves, and yet they aren't bound to obey it.

I wholly support the actions of the leftist liberals who are the subject of this thread. I also support the actions of the leftist liberals who support this illegal behavior in forums like this. Not because I actually support their behavior, mind you, but because it drives more and more over to my side. Good job.

What side is that, the Reactionary Right? I think the whackos on either side of the political spectrum are making the American voter more Apathetic. One things for certain, both groups of Tossers are Uber Control Freaks.

 

[Moonbeam]

Is the Daily Cal a freeby? Just curious to know how it's illegal to take something that's free....

In middle America you're branded a traitor if you're against war, in Berkeley if you're for it. Truth is always some third way. I wonder what would happen to a paper in the South that published mug shots of Bush and accused him of throwing bottles. What is the source of passion on an issue. What do we feel. Oh wait, never mind. We are all insane.
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Ultra Quiet: The dichotomy of the people who are at Berkley is simply amazing.
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You didn't come out of the Berkeley English department, huh. There are a lot more sides than two in any school, much less Berkeley.

 

[Alistar7]

I wonder what would happen to a paper in the South that published mug shots of Bush and accused him of throwing bottles.

it would rot on the stands if it was false.....

 

[Moonbeam]

Yeah, and the publisher would probably be lynched.

 

[dahunan]

HOW IN THE BLEEP is a SCHOOL ISSUED PHOTOGRAPH a "Mug Shot"

On Tuesday, the Daily Californian ran a story about the fight and included a photograph of Gray, which they copied from a Cal Football publication.

hypersensitive stickinthebutt liberals

 

[UltraQuiet]

Ultra Quiet: The dichotomy of the people who are at Berkley is simply amazing.
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You didn't come out of the Berkeley English department, huh. There are a lot more sides than two in any school, much less Berkeley.

You're the last one that should be giving English lessons or making comments about anyone else's. As to your comment: You're probably right of course however you rarely see (or hear) anything more than the extremes of an issue. I stand by my statement.

I also notice you attempt to deflect the issue by musing whether the paper was free and pointing elsewhere for justification.

It's hardly the issue at hand is it?

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Corn

Freedom of press is not freedom from consequenses. -Amused

Yes, yes, "freedom of press is not freedom from consequences" so long as those consequences are legal. Here were have a few leftist liberals again demonstrating their belief that the law only protects themselves, and yet they aren't bound to obey it.

Yeah, just like when right wing rednecks gave the Dixie Chicks death threats, harrassed them incessantly and dumped garbage infront of their homes. But I guess that's legal since those crazy women dared speak ill of his holiness President Bush.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: Corn

Freedom of press is not freedom from consequenses. -Amused

Yes, yes, "freedom of press is not freedom from consequences" so long as those consequences are legal. Here were have a few leftist liberals again demonstrating their belief that the law only protects themselves, and yet they aren't bound to obey it.

Yeah, just like when right wing rednecks gave the Dixie Chicks death threats, harrassed them incessantly and dumped garbage infront of their homes. But I guess that's legal since those crazy women dared speak ill of his holiness President Bush.

I don't give a sh1t if it's legal or not to take the free paper. I am glad Rosa decided to "break the law." Broadcasting a innocents man picture accross the campus paper can only hurt that individual and without a conviction it's unessasary. Especially considering his special status as a star athlete.

You know, this might be a good thing in the long run. Restore some of that "innocent until proven guilty" rehtoric we spew when in fact the press shows people mearly accused of a crime and it taints the case from the get go.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Broadcasting a innocents man picture accross the campus paper can only hurt that individual and without a conviction it's unessasary. Especially considering his special status as a star athlete.

So you would advocate stealing any paper that had a picture of someone who is merely accused of a crime. For instance every paper in the country had a picture of Scott Petersen in it last week. You think it's OK to steal or destroy them all?

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: Corn

Freedom of press is not freedom from consequenses. -Amused

Yes, yes, "freedom of press is not freedom from consequences" so long as those consequences are legal. Here were have a few leftist liberals again demonstrating their belief that the law only protects themselves, and yet they aren't bound to obey it.

Yeah, just like when right wing rednecks gave the Dixie Chicks death threats, harrassed them incessantly and dumped garbage infront of their homes. But I guess that's legal since those crazy women dared speak ill of his holiness President Bush.

I don't give a sh1t if it's legal or not to take the free paper. I am glad Rosa decided to "break the law." Broadcasting a innocents man picture accross the campus paper can only hurt that individual and without a conviction it's unessasary. Especially considering his special status as a star athlete.

You know, this might be a good thing in the long run. Restore some of that "innocent until proven guilty" rehtoric we spew when in fact the press shows people mearly accused of a crime and it taints the case from the get go.

If he was charged with the crime, I would have no problem with them putting his picture everywhere, he would deserve it. But the fact that he wasn't, as you said, makes it wrong. I don't beleive that athletes should be given special priveledge, so if he wasn't convicted just because he was a football player, that would be wrong too. As for the picture, I fail to see what was racist about that.

Carbonyl: I just noticed we have the same quote in our sig. I just found it today. Scary how appropriate it seems in these troubled times.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Broadcasting a innocents man picture accross the campus paper can only hurt that individual and without a conviction it's unessasary. Especially considering his special status as a star athlete.

So you would advocate stealing any paper that had a picture of someone who is merely accused of a crime. For instance every paper in the country had a picture of Scott Petersen in it last week. You think it's OK to steal or destroy them all?

It's a free paper, how do you steal something which is free? I don't know the answer to your question. however,

Unless it's a search for Mr. Peterson and the police are asking the public for help I don't see anything other than harm can come from it. This is why judges feel the need to move cases which are tried in the local media.

One you have a very bad picture, usually a mug shot taken by the police. Secondly the press is only given one side story, the police at first. First impressions are very important and I think the press is basically aiding and abbetting the prosecution from the begining of the case and makes it difficult to get a fair trail. JMO.

 

[Zebo]

If he was charged with the crime, I would have no problem with them putting his picture everywhere, he would deserve it.

See to me this is wrong. Reputations have been ruined and assests have been siezed by mere accusations, which were later found to be entirly ficticous.

Sure after a coinviction I have no probelm with it. This dude was'nt even charged!!!

 

[UltraQuiet]

One you have a very bad picture, usually a mug shot taken by the police. Secondly the press is only given one side story, the police at first. First impressions are very important and I think the press is basically aiding and abbetting the prosecution from the begining of the case and makes it difficult to get a fair trail. JMO.

Your point here is a valid one. If you recall the first thing Petersens lawyer did (Geragos?) was insist that if cameras were going to be present at all the hearings, his client should be allowed to be clean shaven, dressed in a suit and not shackled. His point was exactly the same as yours. His client was being portrayed in an unfavorable light and it had to be prevented. Now having said that how exactly do we control what the press publishes?

If that last line doesn't scare the hell out of you, you have no business living in this country.

 

[Zebo]

If that last line doesn't scare the hell out of you, you have no business living in this country.

LOL

Well yes this is the crux of the problem. You have a very upset group of students who feel they are being unfairly protrayed and a publishers rights. The students it seems are acting immature but are young and this is the only way to immediatly and impulsivly show thier anger.

I suggest rewriting some of the liable laws which have ruined mens carrers (PaCKWOOD, Conduit, Thomas etcetc). Who knows. But it seems unfair to post those accused unless it's on a wanted poster.