Studio PCTV pro (tv tuner) $29 after MIR @ Compusa (Win XP compatible)

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Snu

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No, DScaler doesn't support recording. There's some work on it from the DScaler developers (no, not from me), but I think it'll be a long time before recording/time shifting is reliable.
 

DjmCam

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I am using Dscaler (stable release) with Xp Pro and it worked like a charm the first time through. I didn't ever install the pctv crap.


My settings (mentioned earlier in this thread) were:

card - pinnacle pctv studio pro
tuner - phillips 1236D atsc/ntsc input 2

under settings - audio input i chose msp/radio

If you don't get sound make sure your line-in (or whatever you have the cord plugged into) is enabled. (not muted in volume control).

It gives me great video & ok sound quality even with my cable being split and reaching the tuner card after 50' of cable. Good card once it works.
 

Nutzo

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I gave up on the PCTV software & went with the Beta WDM Driver & PowerVCR II. The PowerVCR II works great, is stable, and will capture at 640x480 directly to MPEG 2. the 320x240 limit IS due to the software that ships with the card. There is a noticable improvement in detail when I capture at 640x480.

As for capture quality, that is somewhat involved. I had planned to record directly to SVCD or XSVCD format.

I am running a 950 Mhz Slot A Thunderbird Athlon, and 80 GB 7200 RPM drive & 512 MB memory limited to PC-100 on an Irongate chipset. Not the fastest system around, but still pretty fast.

Mpeg 2 compression is VERY CPU intensive. The higher the compression ratio is, and the higher quality you want the image to be, the more CPU power you need. Real-time Mpeg2 compression will NOT give very good quality and/or compression on most current CPU's.

In low action frames, the picture was great, but in high action parts, the picture degraded with lots of noise & artifacts.

The solution was to capture at higher bit rates (with lower compression then needed, so the software can optimize the picture for quality). SVCD's use a bit rate of 2500 at 480x480, I found I needed to increase the bit rate to 8000 (at 640x480) for the captured file to look as good as the original signal. Of course that is way to high for SVCD, and it also takes alot of disk space (1 MB/second or 3.6 GB/hour). However, this way I now have an excellent quality source file.

I then used TMPENC to re-compress the file as a SVCD compatable image @ a bit rate of 2500. Using the highest quality (and slowest) settings, TMPENC produces a SVCD file that looks almost as good as the source, and at less than 1/3 the bit rate. Only problem is it takes about 6 hours to compress a 30 minute file

I assume if I had the latest 2GHZ+ CPU & DDR Ram, I probably could get acceptable Mpeg2 compression on the fly, but to get as good a picture as I'm getting with TMPENC, I'd probably need around a 3 Ghz system.

 

LiLRiceBoi

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Thanks for the info nutzo.

I was gonna WAIT for the non beta drivers, but who knows when they'll come out. I guess i should try powervcr again, i need the recording features.
 

Nefrodite

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but im not sure if i should get one. HDTV is coming out and all. does anyone know how HDTV is gonna be like for the comp? how long is broadcast tv gonna last? im thinking these tv tuners r on sale cause HDTV is rolling in.




about 300 bux but very sweet if you do get one

and i can vouch for hauppage, they update their drivers often, and have a decent player, don't need dscaler
 

TheVisioneer

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Can somebody tell me why I am not getting all the channels opn power vcrII. I get just 8 channels
and nothing. Is there any tunning I have to do. And I tried to use Dscaler too. I get only one channel. How do we set the channels. I can not get channels set. I would appreciate any pointers.
Thanks.
 

geckojohn

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Could someone tell me how to get PowerVCR working with windows xp. I would really appreciate it.
 

TheVisioneer

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geckojohn

Do the following:
1) Insert the card into computer and when you start xp it will ask for drivers. Just cancel it.
2) Get the bet WDM drivers from http://btwincap.sourceforge.net/index.html and install them.
Reboot your pc.
3) It will ask you for the drivers. Just keep clicking the next button and your drivers are installed
2) Got to this site http://www.cyberlink.com.tw/english/products/powervcr2/powervcr2.asp and get
the power VCR II trial version and install it.
And you are good to go. But here is the rider. I am not getting all the TV channels. But almost all the people who use power vcr on this thread get all the channels. I am getting TV capturing
and other video capturing fine. Nice sound too. Thanks and hope this helps.
 

geckojohn

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Hey Visioneer!

You are a lifesaver! Thank you so much, now i can use powervcr using the wdm beta drivers. I can't believe how bad Pinnacle products are. I will never buy Pinnacle again until they upgrade their drivers and tech support.

One quick question: When i record on PowerVCRII, I can't hear sound through playback. I can hear sound when I'm playing the TV live, but can't hear it when I'm trying to record. When I record and playback, I still can't hear volume also. I have a soundblaster live soundcard. I checked in the settings and it's not the line-in. Any suggestions??
 

DocYahoo

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<< One quick question: When i record on PowerVCRII, I can't hear sound through playback. I can hear sound when I'm playing the TV live, but can't hear it when I'm trying to record. When I record and playback, I still can't hear volume also. I have a soundblaster live soundcard. I checked in the settings and it's not the line-in. Any suggestions?? > >>



Having the same problem here.
 

Nutzo

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Apr 24, 2000
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No problems here.

I'm using a Soundblaster Live with the external patch cable from the PCTV card to the line-in on the Soundblaster.

Works fine.

Check your PowerVCR system settings. There are 2 settings for the audio source, Live Audio & Audio Recording. Both mine are set to Line-in.


 

RadioactiveMagpies

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I took mine back to compusa to get an exchange, now i have an unopened box which i'll carefully remove the upc code and and Egay it. This card has wasted 24+ hours of my life. This is just a horrible little card for alot of people. Hats off to those who can get it to work, most products don't require this much effort.
 

geckojohn

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I agree with you on that one! This has been the most difficult piece of hardware that I've ever installed. I've spent so much time trying to set this card up, days and days!! They have the worst support too.
 

geckojohn

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The Pinnacle support message boards is kind of helpful if anyone is still having problems with their cards. Link

I'm still having trouble with the audio when recording. It working during live playback, but not when I record. It seems like other people on the boards are having the same problem. I hope I can find a solution to it.
 

abitaz

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I bought the TV card for my computer but I have no antenna. A friend told me that there is something that can plug into the TV and into the wall and turn all my wires into an antenna for the TV. Does anybody know of such a thing and where to get it and about how much it would cost?
 

RadioactiveMagpies

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I gave the card to my friend and he got it to work(with the pctv software that came with the card) by allowing the card to share the same irq as the video card, the card in the pci slot closest to the apg. Any other slot causes problems like freezing, crashing, software glitches, etc...
 
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