Study finds that pull out method is almost as safe as condoms

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mxyzptlk

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Yea, I knew this. there's no sperm in precum, but precum can pick up left over sperm from your previous ejaculation IF you don't clear the tubes by taking piss sometime between the last nut and the next. It's not rocket science.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: ggnl
Moral of the story: get her on the pill.

On a side note, I have a hard time believing the failure rate for comdoms is 2%.

Improper use factors in.

I was taught that improper use was the failure rate. As in condoms don't fail except in case of user error. Same with the pullout method. The failure rate isn't some magical event where sperm bypass all normal procedures and teleport directly from your nuts to her ovaries.. You did it wrong and now someones pregnant.
 

Auryg

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That's not true, I've had one break, and it wasn't abused (left in my car or anything like that) and way before the expiration date.
 

mxyzptlk

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Originally posted by: Auryg
That's not true, I've had one break, and it wasn't abused (left in my car or anything like that) and way before the expiration date.

How? What mechanism physically broke it? Is your cock really so big that you stretched it to the breaking point? Do you ejaculate with so much force that you were able to achieve this? Was it from friction? did she have sand in her vagina (his ass? I'm not judging, just exploring the possibilities here)


Or maybe you tore it while opening the package/putting it on...
 

Fox5

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Originally posted by: ggnl
Moral of the story: get her on the pill.

On a side note, I have a hard time believing the failure rate for comdoms is 2%.

2% of people, not 2% of times used.
As in, 2% of people will say "We were using condoms for the last year, but she got pregnant anyway"
And the correct responses are:
"You're doing it wrong."
or
"She cheated."
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I was taught that improper use was the failure rate. As in condoms don't fail except in case of user error. Same with the pullout method. The failure rate isn't some magical event where sperm bypass all normal procedures and teleport directly from your nuts to her ovaries.. You did it wrong and now someones pregnant.

I don't think the sperm goes into her ovaries in most cases...
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I was taught that improper use was the failure rate. As in condoms don't fail except in case of user error. Same with the pullout method. The failure rate isn't some magical event where sperm bypass all normal procedures and teleport directly from your nuts to her ovaries.. You did it wrong and now someones pregnant.

I don't think the sperm goes into her ovaries in most cases...

Pffft....my super-sperm actually ends up in the liver sometimes.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: torpid
Why not use both then?

Because that would suck.

No kidding. Condoms are bad enough, using a condom AND pulling out would be like taking two bites of a fantastic steak, then throwing the rest away.

More like two bites vs three bites. Either way you are throwing most of it away.
 
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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: torpid
Why not use both then?

Because that would suck.

No kidding. Condoms are bad enough, using a condom AND pulling out would be like taking two bites of a fantastic steak, then throwing the rest away.

More like two bites vs three bites. Either way you are throwing most of it away.

More like you get to chew the steak, but then have to spit it out.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus


More like you get to chew the steak, but then have to spit it out.

And it's well done. It just has fail written all over it. This is terrible, this condom and pull out idea.
 
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus


More like you get to chew the steak, but then have to spit it out.

And it's well done. It just has fail written all over it. This is terrible, this condom and pull out idea.

Mmmmm shoe leather that you can't even swallow.

Pull out+condom=wtf is the point of having sex? ITB or ITM are great alternatives if somebody is really that worried, but talking about it before it happens and having a plan together just in case is a good idea.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
i've been doing pullout w/my wife (married last september) for like 5+ years and never gotten her knocked up, so I'd say it works pretty well.

Or one/both of you are sterile.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: ggnl
Moral of the story: get her on the pill.

On a side note, I have a hard time believing the failure rate for comdoms is 2%.

I agree. sounds way too low.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: purbeast0
i've been doing pullout w/my wife (married last september) for like 5+ years and never gotten her knocked up, so I'd say it works pretty well.

or it could be that your boys don't swim right

yup. just as probable. (or she's sterile) Also, avoiding sex during ovulation is quite effective.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: ggnl
Moral of the story: get her on the pill.

On a side note, I have a hard time believing the failure rate for comdoms is 2%.

I agree. sounds way too low.

that's the perfect use failure rate. the actual use failure rate is 17%, as stated in the article. keep in mind that's the chance of a couple getting pregnant during the course of a year of use.


Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus


More like you get to chew the steak, but then have to spit it out.

And it's well done. It just has fail written all over it. This is terrible, this condom and pull out idea.

it's called a money shot
 

zerocool84

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I just find it funny that everyone here is only worried about having a baby and not about STD's. Do you drive the girl to the clinic and wait until the results come back and get them directly from the doctor to see if she is clean??? Yea I highly doubt that. Then you guys are just going to say that you don't have sex with hookers or sluts well she could have something and not know about it. Use a condom 100% of the time. Even if you pull out there's this thing called pre-cum and still has semen in it. If the both of you are smart, and everyone here says they are and says their partner is smart as well, she will be on birth control and you will use a condom 100% of the time.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
I just find it funny that everyone here is only worried about having a baby and not about STD's. Do you drive the girl to the clinic and wait until the results come back and get them directly from the doctor to see if she is clean??? Yea I highly doubt that. Then you guys are just going to say that you don't have sex with hookers or sluts well she could have something and not know about it. Use a condom 100% of the time. Even if you pull out there's this thing called pre-cum and still has semen in it. If the both of you are smart, and everyone here says they are and says their partner is smart as well, she will be on birth control and you will use a condom 100% of the time.

If you're smart you won't have sex with a condom on because...well it sucks.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
I just find it funny that everyone here is only worried about having a baby and not about STD's. Do you drive the girl to the clinic and wait until the results come back and get them directly from the doctor to see if she is clean??? Yea I highly doubt that. Then you guys are just going to say that you don't have sex with hookers or sluts well she could have something and not know about it. Use a condom 100% of the time. Even if you pull out there's this thing called pre-cum and still has semen in it. If the both of you are smart, and everyone here says they are and says their partner is smart as well, she will be on birth control and you will use a condom 100% of the time.

As mentioned, that latter issue is only an issue if you shoot a load and don't take a leak before your next load.
 

Onita

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: zerocool84
I just find it funny that everyone here is only worried about having a baby and not about STD's. Do you drive the girl to the clinic and wait until the results come back and get them directly from the doctor to see if she is clean??? Yea I highly doubt that. Then you guys are just going to say that you don't have sex with hookers or sluts well she could have something and not know about it. Use a condom 100% of the time. Even if you pull out there's this thing called pre-cum and still has semen in it. If the both of you are smart, and everyone here says they are and says their partner is smart as well, she will be on birth control and you will use a condom 100% of the time.

If you're smart you won't have sex with a condom on because...well it sucks.

Are you married?
 
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