Study: hostile sexism is a predictor of Trump support

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Blue_Max

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Scorned life-long virgins usually do. This loser is no exception...
Heh... almost in the same breath the SJW crowd will demand my kids be taken away for having the wrong opinions, then immediately cackle that I'm a life-long virgin loser.
Google "mutually exclusive" some day.

Oh... and don't forget to take a crack at my dick size! Nothing will convince others your argument is correct than that!

You know your opponent has nothing when personal insults is all they have to throw.
 

fskimospy

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Well its a good thing I took the bare minimum social science classes and stuck to real science where the lab explodes if you do a shit study like that.

This is a very convincing argument, thank you for your input!
 
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Heh... almost in the same breath the SJW crowd will demand my kids be taken away for having the wrong opinions, then immediately cackle that I'm a life-long virgin loser.
Google "mutually exclusive" some day.

Oh... and don't forget to take a crack at my dick size! Nothing will convince others your argument is correct than that!

You know your opponent has nothing when personal insults is all they have to throw.

Says the guy who does nothing but insult others.

As for the dick thing? Have you consulted your doctor? I hear that there are operations that can help.
 

Ancalagon44

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I'd say that the questions meet your definition of hostile sexism pretty well.

It's the "scorn, fear or hatred" part. If you believe that feminism as a whole is a threat, an attempt to simply reverse the situation and make men subservient, then you're clearly afraid of women asserting themselves. It's not in line with what feminists say they want, and it completely ignores the possibility that feminism, like most things in life, is a multi-faceted concept with varying opinions.

And if you're a woman against feminism, you might not be sexist... but there's a good chance you're suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. It's like Latinos for Trump: you can always convince some people to act against their own self-interests. This doesn't mean that you're misogynist if you're a stay-at-home mother who has never had more than one sexual partner and opposes abortion, but there's a difference between choosing those paths and insisting that everyone else follow you.

You see, you're so deep in feminist lies that you can't separate feminism from women's rights and equality.

How's this for a shocker - I support equality for women but not feminism. Those women who do not support feminism likely have a similar view - they want to make things better for women, they just don't think feminism is the way to achieve it.

It is interesting that your thinking is so binary - that feminism is the only way to help women.

It's also interesting that you accuse women who do not support feminism of having Stockholm syndrome - you are claiming to know the mind of another, which is a patronizing and condescending point of view.

And lastly, which branch of feminism are we talking about? Since, as you well know, there are VAST differences between the different waves and branches of feminism.
 

michal1980

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ahh this same old liberal well. Everyone that disagrees with us is a xenophobic, sexist, homophobic, racist, bigot, deplorable etc etc.
 

zinfamous

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Meh... this is just Sony/Feig/Ghostbusters all over again. "If you don't support us, you're a woman-hating misogynist!!"

The world is quickly tiring of the left's constant stream of false accusations.

I guess people call you a woman-hating misogynist because you really like to post about hating women. Like, a lot. It's clinical, really. Sometimes people are really into games or guns and things and post a lot about that, or talk a lot about them, but none of those guys are as into their hobbies as you are into hating women. It's really strange. It's like there isn't any other thought that goes through your brain. There is a very strong chance that you actually are a woman-hating misogynist. This isn't as controversial as you desperately want it to be.
 

zinfamous

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ahh this same old liberal well. Everyone that disagrees with us is a xenophobic, sexist, homophobic, racist, bigot, deplorable etc etc.

Usually, when you rail against non-white people, women, gays, immigrants, atheists, jews, cats, etc--it's because you actually are those horrible things that people say you are.

This isn't complicated. Seek help.
 

1prophet

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ahh this same old liberal well. Everyone that disagrees with us is a xenophobic, sexist, homophobic, racist, bigot, deplorable etc etc.

Most of them are just pretend liberals, real liberals aren't afraid to look at things objectively and rarely engage in ad hominem attacks.

Religion is the basis of most misogyny and these pretend liberals will still throw women, gays, transgenders,etc. under the bus in the name of their beloved multiculturalism.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/uni...n-switch-seats-after-pakistani-monks-complain
Southern California woman experienced the dark side of multiculturalism during a United Airlines flight when the crew forced her to switch seats to appease the misogynistic leanings of two Pakistani monks.

Mary Campos said her pre-booked ticket was given away by United Airlines. The reason? She’s a woman, and two men didn’t want to sit next to a female.

A million-mile flier, Campos, a mom who lives in Coto de Caza, said she thought she’d seen it all - until a gate agent handed her a new boarding pass just before she got on a flight to Houston last Monday.

"He said, ‘This is your new seat,’" Campos said, "and I said, ‘Excuse me?’ And he said, ‘I don’t know how to tell you this.’"

The agent then told Campos that the two Pakistani men "have cultural beliefs that prevent them for sitting next to, talking to or communicating with females."

Since Campos doesn't come from a culture that (rightly) allows men and women to converse with each other, she found this outrageous, not because they held the belief, but because the American-based airline, hence the name "United," actually wanted to appease them.

"I thought I lived in a culture where females were equal to men," she said.

Campos lamented she had no choice but to take her seat assignment, prompting her to later write a letter of complaint to the CEO of United Airlines.

"What if I were handicapped or transgender?" she asked in the letter. "What if your entire flight crew were female? Any belief that prevents individuals from interacting with females should not travel on commercial aircraft."

United Airlines never responded to Campos until CBS Los Angeles picked up the story. They now apologize that she "was unhappy" with the situation.

"We regret that Ms. Campos was unhappy with the handling of the seat assignments on her flight," said a company spokesperson. "United holds our employees to the highest standards of professionalism and has zero tolerance for discrimination."

The Pakistani monks were allegedly "wearing long orange shirts" and "the female flight crew was not allowed to serve" them. Since Islam has no monastic orders, the two monks may have been some sect of Buddhism or Jainism.

Hey feminists, where you at?


 

Paratus

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ahh this same old liberal well. Everyone that disagrees with us is a xenophobic, sexist, homophobic, racist, bigot, deplorable etc etc.

Well in this country everyone is supposed to be equal in be eyes of the law. Since that's not the case those who don't believe in equality are some combination of xenophobic, sexist, homophobic, racist, bigot, deplorable etc.

In private industry diverse groups are better problem solvers and tend to make companies more competitive. Scientific research backs this up:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-diversity-makes-us-smarter/

Research on large, innovative organizations has shown repeatedly that this is the case. For example, business professors Cristian Deszö of the University of Maryland and David Ross of Columbia University studied the effect of gender diversity on the top firms in Standard & Poor's Composite 1500 list, a group designed to reflect the overall U.S. equity market. First, they examined the size and gender composition of firms' top management teams from 1992 through 2006. Then they looked at the financial performance of the firms. In their words, they found that, on average, “female representation in top management leads to an increase of $42 million in firm value.” They also measured the firms' “innovation intensity” through the ratio of research and development expenses to assets. They found that companies that prioritized innovation saw greater financial gains when women were part of the top leadership ranks.

People who don't or can't deal with diversity like yourself and bluemax would be good candidates to pass over for hiring or promotion since I don't see why top performing organizations would want to subsidize regressive thinking at the cost of their bottom line.
 
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Commodus

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You see, you're so deep in feminist lies that you can't separate feminism from women's rights and equality.

How's this for a shocker - I support equality for women but not feminism. Those women who do not support feminism likely have a similar view - they want to make things better for women, they just don't think feminism is the way to achieve it.

It is interesting that your thinking is so binary - that feminism is the only way to help women.

It's also interesting that you accuse women who do not support feminism of having Stockholm syndrome - you are claiming to know the mind of another, which is a patronizing and condescending point of view.

And lastly, which branch of feminism are we talking about? Since, as you well know, there are VAST differences between the different waves and branches of feminism.

I'm talking about feminism in the most general sense: a push for women's equality. That's literally the dictionary definition of the word. You can make up all the crap you want about what you think feminism is, but that doesn't change the overwhelming consensus on what it actually is.

Do you support equal rights and opportunities for women? As in real equality, not lip service (and goodness knows it's easy for that to happen)? Then you're a feminist. And if you seriously, profoundly object to the very term... maybe you're not as big on equality as you think you are, because you're clearly nervous about any pro-rights advocacy.

Also, as I've said before, please actually read what I'm saying about women who don't support feminism. It's fine if they choose not to exercise freedoms and don't particularly care for them. It's another when they sincerely believe that it's bad for women to have those freedoms. Then, yes, there's a certain Stockholm Syndrome quality. Who do you think primarily shaped "traditional" social structures and religious views? Hint: women didn't have much say.

I'm not so naive as to think that all forms of feminism are constructive, or that there's never overreach. But feminism is a positive thing at its core, and labeling the entire concept as negative is not just overly simplistic, but shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is.
 
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hal2kilo

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I'm talking about feminism in the most general sense: a push for women's equality. That's literally the dictionary definition of the word. You can make up all the crap you want about what you think feminism is, but that doesn't change the overwhelming consensus on what it actually is.

Do you support equal rights and opportunities for women? As in real equality, not lip service (and goodness knows it's easy for that to happen)? Then you're a feminist. And if you seriously, profoundly object to the very term... maybe you're not as big on equality as you think you are, because you're clearly nervous about any pro-rights advocacy.

Also, as I've said before, please actually read what I'm saying about women who don't support feminism. It's fine if you choose not to exercise freedoms and don't particularly care for them. It's another when they sincerely believe that it's bad for women to have those freedoms. Then, yes, there's a certain Stockholm Syndrome quality. Who do you think primarily shaped "traditional" social structures and religious views? Hint: women didn't have much say.

I'm not so naive as to think that all forms of feminism are constructive, or that there's never overreach. But feminism is a positive thing at its core, and labeling the entire concept as negative is not just overly simplistic, but shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is.
You can mainly blame the Judeo Christian, and Islamic religions (Abrahamic) for putting woman in the back seat. Up until those beliefs took hold there were more people worshiping female gods than male gods.
 
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Ancalagon44

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I'm talking about feminism in the most general sense: a push for women's equality. That's literally the dictionary definition of the word. You can make up all the crap you want about what you think feminism is, but that doesn't change the overwhelming consensus on what it actually is.

The different schools of thought differ greatly in their aims and approaches, so yes it matters a lot.

Do you support equal rights and opportunities for women? As in real equality, not lip service (and goodness knows it's easy for that to happen)? Then you're a feminist. And if you seriously, profoundly object to the very term... maybe you're not as big on equality as you think you are, because you're clearly nervous about any pro-rights advocacy.

Again, they aren't the same, and you are making the mistake of thinking they are.

For instance - the Black Lives Matter movement aims to address equality issues for black people in America. True? But, they aren't the only movement to do so. Black Lives Matter is not exactly equal to black equality.

Also, as I've said before, please actually read what I'm saying about women who don't support feminism. It's fine if you choose not to exercise freedoms and don't particularly care for them. It's another when they sincerely believe that it's bad for women to have those freedoms. Then, yes, there's a certain Stockholm Syndrome quality. Who do you think primarily shaped "traditional" social structures and religious views? Hint: women didn't have much say.

I did read what you said but apparently you still refuse to accept this fact.

There are women. Who believe in equality for women. That do not support feminism.

It is not that they want to go back to being barefoot in the kitchen. They just don't support feminism.

They want those freedoms, they just don't agree with feminism for various reasons.

You are the one who is claiming to know that these women want a return to patriarchy, which is not what they actually want.

And again, your point of view on this is still patronizing, patriarchal and condescending. You are so sure that there is no way that a sane modern woman could be against feminism that you assume that they desire less rights and less freedom. Don't you see how patriarchal that is? Hugely ironic.

I'm not so naive as to think that all forms of feminism are constructive, or that there's never overreach. But feminism is a positive thing at its core, and labeling the entire concept as negative is not just overly simplistic, but shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is.

Isn't labelling all feminism good just because some varieties of good a vast oversimplification of the truth? It's like saying all cancer is good because not all of it will kill you.
 

Axon

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Global warming isn't real. I just told that chick she looked hot and I'd hit that and maybe grabbed her a little, it was an innocent comment, jeez. Vote Trump
 

AnonymouseUser

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You can mainly blame the Judo Christian, and Islamic religions (Abrahamic) for putting woman in the back seat. Up until those beliefs took hold there were more people worshiping female gods than male gods.

According to feminists, muhammad was a feminist* and moslems are the true feminists*.

Of all the founders of the great religions - Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Islam and Judaism — Muhammad was easily the most radical and empowering in his treatment of women. Arguably he was history’s first feminist.

Contrary to American popular belief, Islam has a culture and history of women empowerment.

* WARNING: HuffPo link containing feminist drivel similar to VOX
 

SMOGZINN

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The study does not claim that Trump supporters are misogynists. It finds that misogynists tend to be Trump supporters. Those two statements are not equivalent.
 
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bshole

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In private industry diverse groups are better problem solvers and tend to make companies more competitive. Scientific research backs this up:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-diversity-makes-us-smarter/

How does that explain the catastrophic success of companies like Microsoft/Apple/Google that appear to owe their success solely to the genius of their founders? I am of the opinion that it is a handful of geniuses that change the world, not corporate drones like myself.
 

Commodus

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Again, they aren't the same, and you are making the mistake of thinking they are.

For instance - the Black Lives Matter movement aims to address equality issues for black people in America. True? But, they aren't the only movement to do so. Black Lives Matter is not exactly equal to black equality.

They are. Objectively, unquestionably.

Feminism is an abstract term, in the same way that liberalism or conservatism is. It doesn't cover a specific method of campaigning for women's equality; it covers the very act of campaigning for women's equality. Your Black Lives Matter example is, to be frank, fundamentally mistaken. That's a subset of a broader black rights movement targeting a specific problem. If you want an actual parallel in feminism, look at a narrow-focus initiative like the suffragettes.


There are women. Who believe in equality for women. That do not support feminism.

It is not that they want to go back to being barefoot in the kitchen. They just don't support feminism.

They want those freedoms, they just don't agree with feminism for various reasons.

So they're feminists, they're just shy about using the term. Simply saying that a label doesn't apply do you doesn't mean that you're right. Remember, Trump will swear up and down that he's not sexist, but anyone with a reasonable intellect knows that he's the textbook example of sexism.



You are the one who is claiming to know that these women want a return to patriarchy, which is not what they actually want.

And again, your point of view on this is still patronizing, patriarchal and condescending. You are so sure that there is no way that a sane modern woman could be against feminism that you assume that they desire less rights and less freedom. Don't you see how patriarchal that is? Hugely ironic.

I did not say this. Are you being willfully obtuse? Read carefully: my objection is to women who seek to impose patriarchal values on others. This doesn't mean that they can't adopt these values (including independently, without explicitly tying it back to patriarchal structures). But if a woman wants to have an abortion, focus on her career instead of (or alongside) raising a family, or put an end to cultural elements that encourage sexual harassment, she shouldn't be hindered.

Nor did I say that there's "no way" a rational woman could be against feminism. It's just an uncommon move when, as a general rule, people tend to choose more freedom over less. I'm reminded of low-income people who vote Republican despite (or perhaps because of) the party's tendency to spit on the poor and cut taxes primarily for big businesses and the rich. Why argue in favor of something that aims to limit you?



Isn't labelling all feminism good just because some varieties of good a vast oversimplification of the truth? It's like saying all cancer is good because not all of it will kill you.

Once more: I did not say this. I said the core of feminism is good; I did not say that all feminism is good. There's an important distinction there, and I'm saddened that you're twisting things to argue against the opponent you want, not the opponent you have.
 

Commodus

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How does that explain the catastrophic success of companies like Microsoft/Apple/Google that appear to owe their success solely to the genius of their founders? I am of the opinion that it is a handful of geniuses that change the world, not corporate drones like myself.

But their success isn't solely due to their founders. Steve Jobs didn't directly design the products, write the software or conceive every idea associated with them. Even as a micromanager, he still left many things up to others in the company: people like Jonathan Ive, Tony Fadell, Bob Borchers and Tim Cook helped make Apple as big as it is. Steve Ballmer, Panos Panay and others helped back Microsoft, too.

That's where the diversity of views comes in. You get people who find different solutions to a given problem, or consider factors that others didn't recognize. Are you in a position where you can make any decisions about a product? Then you're helping shape the success of your company, whether you're a middle manager or an executive.
 

kage69

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You can mainly blame the Judo Christian, and Islamic religions (Abrahamic) for putting woman in the back seat. Up until those beliefs took hold there were more people worshiping female gods than male gods.

Hey now, you leave Jigoro Kano out of this damnit.
 

zinfamous

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Trolls for Trump

Warning! details of the alt-right megaphone and slop dispenser, the perpetually penniless Michael Cernovich (lol--this twerp lives off the multi-million dollar settlement of his ex-wife's money that he won in divorce--yes, she was the successful one) and his life as an uninformed and generally non-curious dillhole. You may experience low test, a bit of cucking, and plenty of misogyny reading this piece. I advise taking a shower with a steel wool scrub down; but it's pretty much like reading an extended Sp33dy post.

enjoy!
 

Paratus

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How does that explain the catastrophic success of companies like Microsoft/Apple/Google that appear to owe their success solely to the genius of their founders? I am of the opinion that it is a handful of geniuses that change the world, not corporate drones like myself.

It doesn't have to explain every success at every company. It just means that companies who employ diversity tend to be more successful. Folks who can't handle working with diverse groups negatively impact their work and others.

It's also not saying a company must be diverse to be successful. It's just likely the company would be more successful if they did.
 

kage69

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Sheez even when you pointed out my error, it still took a while to figure out. Running on the slow side today.

My delight in teasing outweighed the respect for posterity on that one honestly, but I applaud your humility hal. And if it makes you feel any better, I've spent enough time here to know you are far from slow. Your overall point is absolutely correct btw.
 
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