Study reveals fat people have 13x number of lost work days, cost employers more than normal people

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Number1

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: beer
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20070423/D8OMI9A80.html

CHICAGO (AP) - Overweight workers cost their bosses more in injury claims than their lean colleagues, suggests a study that found the heaviest employees had twice the rate of workers' compensation claims as their fit co-workers.

Obesity experts said they hope the study will convince employers to invest in programs to help fight obesity. One employment attorney warned companies that treating fat workers differently could lead to discrimination complaints.

Duke University researchers also found that the fattest workers had 13 times more lost workdays due to work-related injuries, and their medical claims for those injuries were seven times higher than their fit co-workers.


Overweight workers were more likely to have claims involving injuries to the back, wrist, arm, neck, shoulder, hip, knee and foot than other employees.

The findings were based on eight years of data from 11,728 people employed by Duke and its health system. Researchers found that workers with higher body mass indexes, or BMIs, had higher rates of workers' compensation claims.

The most obese workers - those with BMIs of 40 or higher - had the highest rates of claims and lost workdays. BMI is a measure of height and weight. A 6-foot, 300-pound person, for example, has a BMI of just over 40.

Study co-author Dr. Truls Ostbye said the findings should encourage employers to sponsor fitness programs.

"There are many promising programs," Ostbye said. "We'd like to see more research about what is truly effective."

James Hill, who heads the Center for Human Nutrition at the University of Colorado, said managers will pay attention to the findings because injuries mean more immediate financial losses than the future health-care costs of diabetes and heart disease.

"When you see that claims rates double, I think that's going to get people's attention," Hill said.

But there isn't enough good information about employer-sponsored programs that work, said John Cawley, an expert in the economics of obesity at Cornell University. Employers don't know whether paying for nutrition counseling, obesity surgery or anti-obesity drugs through health insurance makes economic sense, he said.

"It's now apparent to everybody that obesity is a big problem," Cawley said. "But the research isn't there to know where to get biggest bang for the buck."

Cawley noted that BMI does not distinguish muscle from fat and can equate a buff body builder to a couch potato. Although BMI, a measure of height and weight, is used in most obesity research, Cawley's research has found that blacks are particularly likely to be misclassified as obese by BMI.

New York employment attorney Richard Corenthal cautioned employers not to overreact with discriminatory policies.

"Employers need to be careful not to view this study as a green light to treat obese or overweight workers differently," Corenthal said.

The study, appearing in Monday's Archives of Internal Medicine, got funding from the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health.

Again, how is discrimination against fat people illegal? Time and time again, studies have shown that fat people are less reliable, less respected, and now, far more likely to cost employers more, both in downttime and in increased health care costs.

Are ultimatiums required to solve this? Why should an employer hire someone who is fat and going to cost them more than someone who is normal?

I'm not hating on obesity here, but it is disgusting and coutnerproductive and I hate the fact that my health care costs subsidizing your lifestyle. Since you're costing me money, I want answers.

yes you are, otherwise you wouldn't make the comments you made, but apparently its ok here.

Good point Pontifex.
I think it is politicaly correct to pick on obese people in ATOT due to the general lack of maturity of many posters.
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boomerang

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Is there a name for the type of mental illness people have that are obsessed about overweight people?

Maybe it's just a type of phobia?

Some people are fat, some skinny, some black, some white, some old, some young. I guess the OP is only OK with people that are just like him.

Quit employing fatties and/or terminate their employment and you're "problems" will be gone? How simplistic. No, sir, your problems are much deeper than that.

Maybe you should march all the fatties into the gas chambers? Similar things have been done before. Maybe genetic engineering tests to eliminate being overweight could be done prior? Oh, wait that kind of thing was done too.

A master race of thin people. Ah utopia.

Get help OP. You are the one with the problem.
 

fierydemise

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Originally posted by: pontifex
bahahaha...what a load of horse ******

I rarely miss work. The only time I've missed work is due to bad weather (snow) or because I was extremely sick, as in flu type sick, which is extremely rare.

Of the 12 years that I've been working, I have maybe missed 10 days (and this is generous) of work due to being sick.

Its the skinny ass bitches that take off the most.
Read up on the law of large numbers, only in repeated sampling will the data approach the true mean, a single data point does not matter only the totality of data.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Number1
Good point Pontifex.
I think it is politicaly correct to pick on obese people in ATOT due to the general lack of maturity of many posters.
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It's politically correct because fatties cost everybody else money because of their poor choices in life.

That's BS and it needs to be called out. If you are fat it is by your own choice and I don't want to pay for it.
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: boomerang
Is there a name for the type of mental illness people have that are obsessed about overweight people?

Maybe it's just a type of phobia?

Some people are fat, some skinny, some black, some white, some old, some young. I guess the OP is only OK with people that are just like him.

Quit employing fatties and/or terminate their employment and you're "problems" will be gone? How simplistic. No, sir, your problems are much deeper than that.

Maybe you should march all the fatties into the gas chambers? Similar things have been done before. Maybe genetic engineering tests to eliminate being overweight could be done prior? Oh, wait that kind of thing was done too.

A master race of thin people. Ah utopia.

Get help OP. You are the one with problem.



:thumbsup:
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: boomerang
Is there a name for the type of mental illness people have that are obsessed about overweight people?

Maybe it's just a type of phobia?

Some people are fat, some skinny, some black, some white, some old, some young. I guess the OP is only OK with people that are just like him.

You don't control your age or skin color, but you DO control your health.

And no need to go all slippery-slope on us, this isn't even CLOSE to that.
 

Sphexi

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I'm far from being perfectly fit, and I work a job that's extremely physically demanding, and I've been sick one day in the past two years. Although taking a day off for my wife giving birth isn't really the same, but I'm sure it still counts. I can handle a lot more physically than the majority of the "fit" workers at my company, so I'm sure this study is focusing on people who are 300-400lbs or more.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Sphexi
I'm far from being perfectly fit, and I work a job that's extremely physically demanding, and I've been sick one day in the past two years. Although taking a day off for my wife giving birth isn't really the same, but I'm sure it still counts. I can handle a lot more physically than the majority of the "fit" workers at my company, so I'm sure this study is focusing on people who are 300-400lbs or more.

Read the post. People with a BMI of 40 or over. 300 lbs at just 6 feet means you are morbidly obese.

How tall and how much do you weigh? Figure out your BMI because they might be talking about you.

<---6'3, 205. Fit.
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Number1
Good point Pontifex.
I think it is politicaly correct to pick on obese people in ATOT due to the general lack of maturity of many posters.
.

It's politically correct because fatties cost everybody else money because of their poor choices in life.

That's BS and it needs to be called out. If you are fat it is by your own choice and I don't want to pay for it.

I am canadian so healt care is free for everybody no mater what causes their illness. I assume you american pay health care insurance premiums. I would assume that your healt care insurance premium are dependant on you age, smoking status, health history and so on? If so, people at risk pay higher healt care premium, don't they?
 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: beer
I'm not hating on obesity here, but it is disgusting and coutnerproductive and I hate the fact that my health care costs subsidizing your lifestyle. Since you're costing me money, I want answers.

I'm tired of subsidizing your children. You had them, you pay for them. If your kids are going to public schools, I'm paying for their education. You're costing me money, I want answers.

I'm tired of subsidizing your aging parents. My tax dollars are going to pay their medical bills. And they've got a lot of health problems! If they'd made some better decisions regarding their future health when they were younger, it wouldn't cost so much for their medical expenses. They're costing me money, I want answers.

I'm tired of subsidizing your car insurance. Your piss-poor driving driving habits have raised my rates. Sure, you think nothing of getting behind the wheel after drinking too much, but those two alcohol related accidents you've had have caused my car insurance to sky-rocket. You're costing me money, I want answers.


I could go on. Spare me the rhetoric that these analogies are not relevant.
 

TallBill

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I personally just dont like overweight people. It takes such little effort to control weight, so theres no excuse. I have no friends or family that are overweight. Funny enough I don't have any friends or family that smoke either, and I think it is just as pathetic that people smoke.

Since I'm on a roll, none of my family or friends are vegetarians either, and thats the worst of the lot!
 

compuwiz1

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You can't fire people because of their weight, as that is a discrimination, but you can certainly fire people for incompetence and lack of job performance.
 

Eeezee

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The study doesn't make any sense, and here's why.

MOST OBESE PEOPLE ARE LAZY. LAZY PEOPLE MAKE MORE MISTAKES AND TEND TO DEMAND MORE COMPENSATION. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

Making them thin isn't going to change the fact that they're lazy.

This is a dangerous idea that this attorney has pulled out of his ass, as it could convince employers to discriminate against fat people, even those with diseases that make them fat that they have no control over. Idiot lawyers FTL
 
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i agree.... if your motivated enough look after your body and go sweat it out in gyms, on bikes, running, swimming then its very easy to find the motivation to do your work at work too. and the fact thay you are in good shape and good health means your less likely to get ill and less likely to be always tired.

i had a period 2 months ago where i didnt have much motivation to work out or exercise and inturn i didnt have much motivation to sit down and actually do my work. now that i have a new training regiem worked out and im sticking to it... i am well motivated to do both.

also here, fat lazy types just have another baby so that they dont even have to look for another job for the next 16 years. they can just sit in their council houses munching on chicken dippa's and pizza for the rest of time.
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
The study doesn't make any sense, and here's why.

MOST OBESE PEOPLE ARE LAZY. LAZY PEOPLE MAKE MORE MISTAKES AND TEND TO DEMAND MORE COMPENSATION. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

Making them thin isn't going to change the fact that they're lazy.

This is a dangerous idea that this attorney has pulled out of his ass, as it could convince employers to discriminate against fat people, even those with diseases that make them fat that they have no control over. Idiot lawyers FTL

I've worked with obese people who, when driven by some purpose, could get more done and move faster than any skinny person you ever met. Lazy people come in all shapes and sizes...so do motivated people. I call shens on the whole concept of obese= lazy.

 

Flyback

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Fatasses should also pay higher insurance premiums. They cost our health system at least as much as smokers do.

As should little anemic and underweight twits who don't eat properly.
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Fatasses should also pay higher insurance premiums. They cost our health system at least as much as smokers do.

"Fatassed Nappy-Headed Hos", should pay higher insurance premiums, because they cost our health system at least as much as smokers.

Folks, we've just graduated.

 

bctbct

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So who cares?

Employers probably lose far more money by height weight poportionate people surfing the internet.
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: bctbct
So who cares?

Employers probably lose far more money by height weight poportionate people surfing the internet.

And, what about text messaging? I've noticed a huge decline in the quality of services, in recent years, due to employees of various companies being so involved in the texting, that they fail to pay attention to customers.

With CA having passed the cell phone /driving law, I have a feeling these things are going to come to a head. In some cases, we really need to get knocked back a few years. People are becoming slaves to their phones, almost like it's a life line. I want to go back to secretaries, who answered phones, no cell, and back to a time, where a man could actually get some work done.

 

JEDI

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Give them the chair. Fry tham all!

oh, they wont fit in the chair? Gas Chamber...
 

Raduque

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Give them the chair. Fry tham all!

oh, they wont fit in the chair? Gas Chamber...

Fatty Fatty 2x4, couldn't fit through the Chamber Door....?

 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: Flyback
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Fatasses should also pay higher insurance premiums. They cost our health system at least as much as smokers do.

As should little anemic and underweight twits who don't eat properly.

If you can find a peer reviewed study that backs up your assertions, have at it.
 
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