Originally posted by: jimmyj68
I will wish all a good night - all -
Logically I should undertake a defense of my earlier post which has struck a nerve somewhere, because logically he feels a need to win this "argument". But I have not argued with the poster as I logically should. Have you heard "--turn the other cheek"? that defeats argument instantly.
Here's a logic conundrum for you - Christ was fully aware that he was innocent of any wrong doing, yet he allowed himself to be brought up on charges, taken before the highest "court" and before a man that wisely and illogically refused to condemen Jesus himself as was his authority. He allowed the religous and learned leaders among his accusers to decide his fate. They offerred the gathering crowd a choice - who should die- Jesus of Nazareth or Babaras the criminal. To the gathered crowd Jesus was most logically the greater threat.
Now Jesus had walked on water, he had raised the dead, cured blindness, straightened crooked and crippled bodies and surely had the power to overcome all those who would nail him to the cross. As He hung there dying and suffering the logical thing to do is use the powers available to you and end the suffering. He didn't use logic. That's why he was able to take upon humself all of our sins (logical thought and its consequences) and get up from the dead. How logical is virgin birth?
Faith is truth and truth is faith - faith that you will be beleived because you are telling the
truth. Here's another for you - knowledge is not wisdom and is not truth. Knowledge about chemistry is fact of nature, knowledge about physics is fact of nature. Knowledge about religion (Theology) is a struggle to find truth upon which to base faith and becomes dependent on logic to define truth. All you ever need to know is available in the 66 books of the bible. Reading it in Faith will give you all the understanding, and wisdom, you need. Have you ever wondered why there are hundreds of colleges and universities dedicated to defining the logic in those 66 books?
Real FAITH, in capital letters comes only when you have enough faith as we all are given, in lower case to surrender your logical mind and allow yourself to be (here it comes!) Born again.
That's why I say you are incapable of understanding. Don't feel bad - you are definitely not alone. You are in the company of some of the worlds greatest religious teachers and leaders. -And what has transpired in this world in the name of religous logic defies description. 72 Virgins - give me a break!
This was too long a good night - sorry about that. But I hope it gives you something to think about that you will not try to define and understand logically.
Where is your proof of all these occurences? I know you just explained what faith means to you, making my question in your eyes illogical or invalid. So then I ask, where did you get your faith?