Subway Sandwiches chicken about 50% actual chicken

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madoka

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Jersey Mike's ok but it's extremely overpriced and no where near the best sub.

If you use the coupons and join their Shore Club, Jersey Mike's ends up costing as much as Subway.

Now if you want to talk overpriced sandwiches, Capriotti's seemed really high to me. $18 a sandwich seemed really high to me.
 

Sonikku

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Man if it isn't ten inch "foot long"s or Jared being into child pron it's chicken controversy. Subway just can't get a break.
 
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louis redfoot

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a lot of lower grade sandwiches and salads used processed chicken. if the breasts aren't stringy... guess what it's processed. for the most part the economy works: you get what you pay for
 

cbrunny

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Man if it isn't ten inch "foot long"s or Jared being into child pron it's chicken controversy. Subway just can't get a break.
well in fairness this "controversy" isnt real. It is actually incorrect and fake. Really, not the Trump way.
 

Excelsior

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I haven't been to a subway in years, since we have places like Jersey Mikes and Substation 2 (any of you heard of this place?). It may have folded but there are at least two delis that used to be a Substation 2 that went independent back in my hometown and they rock for the money.
 

Red Squirrel

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a lot of lower grade sandwiches and salads used processed chicken. if the breasts aren't stringy... guess what it's processed. for the most part the economy works: you get what you pay for

Processed is one thing, still not that great for you, but when they add so much filler that it's only 50% chicken then that is an even bigger issue. The biggest overall issue though is the fact that this stuff is legal. Of course they'll do it if they can, because it's cheaper.
 

zerocool84

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a lot of lower grade sandwiches and salads used processed chicken. if the breasts aren't stringy... guess what it's processed. for the most part the economy works: you get what you pay for
Meh, if it's still 100% chicken, it's fine with me. Processed doesn't automatically mean bad contrary to what people think. All the extra chicken bits chopped up and pressed into pieces I have zero problem with at places as long as you know what you're getting but unfortunately they don't let you know.
 

freeskier93

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Processed is one thing, still not that great for you, but when they add so much filler that it's only 50% chicken then that is an even bigger issue. The biggest overall issue though is the fact that this stuff is legal. Of course they'll do it if they can, because it's cheaper.

Other then possibly deceptive advertising what exactly is the big fucking issue with adding a soy protein filler? And why does processed automatically mean bad? Fast food chicken is basically the equivalent of ground beef.
 

louis redfoot

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and if you get the chicken salad sandwich, it becomes 25% and they give less nowadays

.: do it yourself
 

cbrunny

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I just read the cbc story and they tested four other chains, whose chicken are all in the mid to high 80 percentile chicken dna.

Sounds like Subway is cheating.


http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/business/marketplace-chicken-fast-food-1.3993967
If you read other stuff about this it says that the dna test they chose for the test was wildly inappropriate and has never really been used for their purpose. Apparently "proper" analysis reveals exactly what you'd expect - something like 99% chicken, 1% soy protein.
 

rh71

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Subway doesn't put nearly enough meat in their subs and so you're tasting mostly bread and lettuce/tomatoes/dressing. I'd much rather have 2 McD's burgers than a footlong.
 

cbrunny

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Subway doesn't put nearly enough meat in their subs and so you're tasting mostly bread and lettuce/tomatoes/dressing. I'd much rather have 2 McD's burgers than a footlong.
big mac has 563 calories. so that's 1126 cals...

on the assumption that you're going to subway for a moderately healthy fast food selection, and thus choose reasonably when you select your subs, you can get a footlong thats 750-800 cals easy (like chicken or roast beef). Some of their subs are easily over 1000 cals though.

Personally I'd choose Subway over McDonald's most of the time just because of the calories. But I really prefer to make my own sandwich and not waste money or calories on fast food. I like McDonald's, but its pretty horrible for you generally.
 

sdifox

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If you read other stuff about this it says that the dna test they chose for the test was wildly inappropriate and has never really been used for their purpose. Apparently "proper" analysis reveals exactly what you'd expect - something like 99% chicken, 1% soy protein.


So how do you square the other chains' result?
 

OutHouse

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Just because I don't consider Subway the "worst fast food place ever" you act like I somehow said it was better than a good deli. Strawman much? I have been to "real delis" and they're a total crapshoot. Some are great and some are absolutely not any better than Subway despite costing twice as much, and I've been to multiple ones that were absolutely worse than Subway while costing more and having total shit customer service.

We'll have to disagree on it being gross. No it's not some euphoric experience, but come on.

yea the same is true with local mom and pop "real" pizza joints. with the chains i know what I am getting from NY to LA. with local, ive been burned way to many times with quality and cost. Yes i have had some fantastic local stuff but it is a crap shoot.
 

cbrunny

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Just wondering why you would diss cbc marketplace. They do a lot of investigation into shady businesses.
well, pretty simple really.

"Diss"-ing cbc for this is not exactly dissing when the scientific community is quite critical of the chosen test: (linked earlier) https://arstechnica.com/science/201...h-in-on-50-subway-chicken-test-its-100-weird/
Update, March 6: Subway has released the lab reports from both of its independent tests. Both Maxxam Analytics in Ontario, Canada and Elisa Technologies, Inc. in Florida used enzyme-linked immunosorbent assays (ELISA) designed for food products to quantify soy in the chicken. ELISA's are a standard type of assay that generally detect and quantify substances based on binding by an antibody. In the assay, antibody binding kicks off a detectable chemical reaction, commonly resulting in a color change. In the case of Elisa Technologies, the lab used an antibody that binds to soy flour proteins and the lab used known concentrations of those soy proteins for comparison to determine the quantity of soy protein in Subway's chicken samples.

In all samples, Elisa detected 3 parts-per-million or less of soy proteins, which is well below one percent of the chicken. Maxxam detected 5.3 ppm of soy protein in the chicken, which is still well below one percent.
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“The CBC’s story would not dissuade me from getting a chicken sandwich at Subway if I wanted one,” Mary Ellen Camire, told Ars. Camire, who says she’s generally more partial to meatball subs, is a professor of food science and human nutrition at the University of Maine as well as the former president of the Institute of Food Technologists, a nonprofit, scientific society of food scientists.



Central to her skepticism is the CBC’s choice to use a DNA test from a lab not specializing in food science. (The CBC investigation used a wildlife research center at Trent University.) DNA tests are useful if you want to know, say, if the fish you’re buying at the store is the type of fish the store says it is, she explains. But food scientists typically don’t use DNA tests to look for proportions of content.

Joseph Marcy, the head of the food science and technology department at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, agreed. “It seems like an unusual way to do that.”
Simply put, CBC ought to be embarrassed by this, bigly.
 

sdifox

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sdifox

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why don't you give a food scientist a call and find out?


And we are talking about one of the companies that used yoga mat foaming material in their bread.

I shall call my buddy who is in the org chem test consumable field.
 

louis redfoot

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big mac has 563 calories. so that's 1126 cals...

on the assumption that you're going to subway for a moderately healthy fast food selection, and thus choose reasonably when you select your subs, you can get a footlong thats 750-800 cals easy (like chicken or roast beef). Some of their subs are easily over 1000 cals though.

Personally I'd choose Subway over McDonald's most of the time just because of the calories. But I really prefer to make my own sandwich and not waste money or calories on fast food. I like McDonald's, but its pretty horrible for you generally.

the domino's west coast veggie pizza is pretty good @$8 medium
 
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