Suicide. In general.

[chubbyfatazn]

i do feel sympathy foe those that HAVE to fight depression, those that suffer from incurable diseases, those that are married to fat women, but it is hard to sympathize once theyve killed themselves. i do feel bad for their family though

So having a fat wife is now likened to having an incurable disease when it comes to depression? Just shows how immature your thoughts are regarding the subject.

If someone I knew committed suicide, sure I'd feel bad for a bit, but I'm not going to consider them cowards for doing it. They had their (valid) reasons for doing it, and actually knowing that there's no back button once they start takes some serious cajones. It might be selfish towards those who have deep emotional attachment to you, but you could argue it's just as selfish of them to want to keep you around for their reasons. And in the case of parents, bringing you into the world when you didn't ask to be.

 

[Humpy]

I once came home to find my roommate had shot himself, making a big mess of the living room. His girlfriend had just left him.

At the time I felt no sympathy. I was mad that he didn't do it in the back yard or at least in the tub. The lease was in my name and I was poor and needed the security deposit back. Guess who had to clean that shit up?

To this day I still think he was a big fucking pussy.

That's the only experience I have with suicide. I do feel sympathy for those who are bullied to death or something similar.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Having been through plenty of shit - which I won't go through on this forum, I can say that it's because they want their pain to end. And that they feel so much pain, I can sympathize with. That they had no one to call up and talk to, or no one looking out for them.

Suicide isn't a crime in my book. It should be prevented, but I won't sit here condemning people to hell, or trying to tarnish the memory of them because they decided that they'd had enough. Rest in peace.

 

[Cyco]

Those that have never been suicidal will never understand those that have. There is no debate nor useful criticism from those that haven't been to the edge.

 

[bfdd]

Um, it really depends on the situation. I feel sympathy for someone biting their own tongue and drowning themselves so they don't have to suffer some other torturous nonsense much more than I have sympathy for someone offing themselves over depression or psychological bullying. Not that I am for either of those things. And no sympathy for those who do it just to do it, I mean hell they wanted to right? More power to them.

I am for right to death though and I think it is absolutely retarded that we spend so much effort preventing people from killing themselves. I hope that one day we do have suicide booths on every corner ala the year 3000. You can bet your ass if I get bored of this life before it ends I'll probably off myself. It's just another type of thing and while I'm not going to say I'm not scared, I'm just not worried about it.

 

[Bee4945]

No . suicide = stupid

 

[chubbyfatazn]

Those that have never been suicidal will never understand those that have. There is no debate nor useful criticism from those that haven't been to the edge.

Thank you.

 

[Cyco]

Thank you.

You're welcome. It irks me how high and mighty people can be. Is it selfish? Maybe. Is it destructive? Yes. Can it be conquered? I'm living aren't I? But those that don't understand will never understand those that are in that position for whatever reason. Yes, there are some idiots that commit suicide. There are some idiots that continue living as well. Damn anybody for passing judgement though.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I once came home to find my roommate had shot himself, making a big mess of the living room. His girlfriend had just left him.

At the time I felt no sympathy. I was mad that he didn't do it in the back yard or at least in the tub. The lease was in my name and I was poor and needed the security deposit back. Guess who had to clean that shit up?

To this day I still think he was a big fucking pussy.

That's the only experience I have with suicide. I do feel sympathy for those who are bullied to death or something similar.

This is a perfect example of selfish suicidal behavior. Well, that or temporary insanity.

 

[Cyco]

This is a perfect example of selfish suicidal behavior. Well, that or temporary insanity.

Either or. I feel that suicide by passion goes along with murder by passion. The spur of the moment ones just happen because the person can't think clear and feels that is the right way to go. However, those that commit or attempt suicide are usually in the minority of those described here.

 

[PliotronX]

After being through some events myself and knowing people who've gone through worse things still with the same fire and positiveness that I've always known them for, I have no sympathy. Life is too damn interesting to quit it.

I do realize young people care too much about image and what people think of them but to take their life because somebody said they look fat on the internet is dopey as all hell.

 

[DCal430]

Last year around here their was a 19 year old high school graduate, his girlfriend broke up with him and the next day his parents kicked him out of the house. He went to home depot bought some rope and commitd suicide by hanging him self at a local park. His parents and are now living with terrible guilt for kicking him out of the house. His selfish act has ruined his family.

 

[RampantAndroid]

After being through some events myself and knowing people who've gone through worse things still with the same fire and positiveness that I've always known them for, I have no sympathy. Life is too damn interesting to quit it.

I do realize young people care too much about image and what people think of them but to take their life because somebody said they look fat on the internet is dopey as all hell.

So you're not willing to say that things might look so GRIM for someone - not interesting - that they just get tired of the struggle to get by? I'm not saying that they should off themselves, but rather that I won't condemn them for the choice.

 

[IGemini]

It's a touchy subject. Having been an ideator in pre-teenage years, I figured my way through.

I will not say that suicide is a coward's way out. Many certainly conduct it prematurely, but those who blanket it as stupid are no better themselves. If you aren't familiar with the case, do a search for Dax Cowart. I won't spoil it, but he has been one of the biggest cases for argument of medical ethics. Even the wikipedia entry glosses over a lot of the details. Having seen actual footage of his treatment (The Dax Case documentary), it's far from pleasant. Times may have changed but it's still an issue.

It's not just psychological pain that pushes people to that edge, but those are the ones we always hear about.

 

[OverVolt]

Last year around here their was a 19 year old high school graduate, his girlfriend broke up with him and the next day his parents kicked him out of the house. He went to home depot bought some rope and commitd suicide by hanging him self at a local park. His parents and are now living with terrible guilt for kicking him out of the house. His selfish act has ruined his family.

Well his parents are retards thinking a 19yr/old can survive in this economy just getting kicked out on his own and the kid was a retard for being rash and hanging himself but what do you expect from them obviously.

"Back in my day I moved out at 18 and got an apartment" and It's like yeah right and back in your day you could make enough money working in a factory and still have half left-over after rent instead of just being apartment broke, congratulations the economy was all under his dads control what a fucking joke.

But this is probably a tangent.

 

[OverVolt]

It's a touchy subject. Having been an ideator in pre-teenage years, I figured my way through.

I will not say that suicide is a coward's way out. Many certainly conduct it prematurely, but those who blanket it as stupid are no better themselves. If you aren't familiar with the case, do a search for Dax Cowart. I won't spoil it, but he has been one of the biggest cases for argument of medical ethics. Even the wikipedia entry glosses over a lot of the details. Having seen actual footage of his treatment (The Dax Case documentary), it's far from pleasant. Times may have changed but it's still an issue.

It's not just psychological pain that pushes people to that edge, but those are the ones we always hear about.

And what about the ones who rebound out of it versus the ones who don't. What is the difference? I guess more along the same lines of thinking, those who crack under torture and those who don't, what is the difference?

If that is what you were getting at, if not screw me what was your main point?

 

[Howard]

No sympathy but no problems either. People should be able to end their lives how and when they choose.

This.

 

[chubbyfatazn]

I do realize young people care too much about image and what people think of them but to take their life because somebody said they look fat on the internet is dopey as all hell.

I fit in the caring category (lost 60 pounds about a year and a half ago), but I have to agree that offing yourself because you took offense that someone called you fat is pretty superficial.

Not once did the thought of killing myself ever involve being fat. There are far "better" reasons in my mind to do so.

 

[God Mode]

No. I feel bad for those with chronic conditions or very tragic family deaths but too many suicides are IMO superficial in nature and downright retarded. We live in a world full of predators and malice and too many naive people expect someone to hold their hands whenever something bad happens.

 

[A Casual Fitz]

Those that have never been suicidal will never understand those that have. There is no debate nor useful criticism from those that haven't been to the edge.

I agree completely

 

[LookBehindYou]

In general, I say it is extremely cowardly thing to do. I feel no sympathy toward people that commit suicide, especially the ones who leave family behind, even more especially the ones with children. It is about as low as a thing as you can do, to abandon your loved ones. Fuck them. No sympathy from this end.

For the record my wife had two brothers who killed themselves. Both had children. I have one brother, if I found out he killed himself, I'd probably want to take a piss on his body.

 

[Wyndru]

My dad killed himself when I was in my 20's. I felt a lot of different emotions when it happened, (sorrow, anger), but he had severe bipolar depression so I think in the long run it was better for him. He basically hated his life for 10 years and was heavily medicated.

I sometimes get upset that my daughter won't know her grandfather, but I don't think that it would be good to see him in a medicated state either.

 

[SandEagle]

My dad killed himself when I was in my 20's. I felt a lot of different emotions when it happened, (sorrow, anger), but he had severe bipolar depression so I think in the long run it was better for him. He basically hated his life for 10 years and was heavily medicated.

I sometimes get upset that my daughter won't know her grandfather, but I don't think that it would be good to see him in a medicated state either.

Wyndru, I am sorry to hear this. I wish you peace and happiness.

 

[rise]

Those that have never been suicidal will never understand those that have. There is no debate nor useful criticism from those that haven't been to the edge.

well said

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Fuck all the high and mighty types here. "I haven't committed suicide so obviously I'm superior."

I've known two different people that were stand up guys that committed suicide. They weren't cowards. Just made terrible decisions which they can't take back.

Shit 95% of the people here are what I consider cowards.