Suicide is for cowards ?

[Braznor]

My opinion was not a joke. I live in the third world and I have seen people be strong despite having it worse than anyone here.

Most people in this forum are psychologically weak.

Come on. I had it worse than you all in my own life. I had my father murdered, creditors hounding my family for debts I did not personally take. Yet I paid them all and I survived despite everything.

Suicide is not a rational option. Anyone can survive anything. All that is needed is will and strength.

 

[HAL9000]

My opinion was not a joke. I live in the third world and I have seen people be strong despite having it worse than anyone here.

Most people in this forum are psychologically weak.

No they are not.

Come on. I had it worse than you all in my own life. I had my father murdered, creditors hounding my family for debts I did not personally take. Yet I paid them all and I survived despite everything.

Suicide is not a rational option. Anyone can survive anything. All that is needed is will and strength.

1) You can't claim to have had a worse life because peoples problems are relative to them, saying "My life is worse than your life" is like saying "My desk fan is better than your wing mirror" completely meaningless.
2) You can't claim to know what it's like to live with a mental illness if you don't have one.
3) Anyone cannot survive anything.
4) Will and Strength won't get you through when you're not in control of your thoughts.

 

[Scotteq]

It's not Suicide...


It's "Making The Greatest Possible Positive Impact On One's Carbon Footprint"

 

[CRXican]

Lame. You have a clear goal. Lose some damn weight, a lot of it.

That's all the goal you need to keep going.

 

[alkemyst]

IMHO your life is your own.

Don't bite off more than you can bite off and you will do ok.

Too many people feel entitled to others living for them.

I never have considered suicide, but know quite a few that did it.

The common theme was those being asked/expected to do way beyond they were capable of.

I'd get yourself healthy first. I will say it's not an easy route or cheap. I think most of the above flaming you are fucking assholes that hate their own lives.

 

[notposting]

To answer the general question first: No, I don't think it's for cowards. Is there a chance that others will be hurt by the decision? Of course. But sometimes you can get so far down a mental hole that it happens.

For you, well the health issues are a big pile of crap on top of the poop dessert. Young to be on disability, and in our culture that probably effects your own self-esteem/image/self-worth etc as well.

Check your PM's.

 

[mrCide]

We're born in a time that's not great but it's pretty decent. Imagine being born 100, 200, 300, 500, or 1000+ years ago, how terrible life would be. You're in the right place at the right time. Remember that you only get one life no matter what anyone says. No heaven, no hell, no afterlife. We're here, now, so make the best of it. It's not too late and you can turn your life around to live the rest of it happily if you (really) try.

 

[LumbergTech]

Instead of trolling like a lot of people, I would say you need to find reasons to live for. Ask yourself if there are things that you can do that will make you feel like life is worth living? Think deeply on it, and I think you will probably come up with some legitimate reasons. It is difficult when you get in the mindset that nothing is appealing and you can't seem to extract enjoyment out of things. It isn't just about having a "bad" life, its about not enjoying life. You only get one shot, so in my mind, you may as well wait it out and see what you can get done.

 

[moonbogg]

I have considered it several times. You aren't a coward. You are just exploring your options. Suicide is an option, but I haven't done it quite yet. I know life is so short anyway, that my turn will come fast enough. Its coming, don't worry.
Sometimes the only thing I had to hold onto was the little stuff that I wouldn't mind doing again before I die. Stuff like playing a game, or going for a nice walk, or laughing at some stupid video. Its a one day at a time survival technique. I can kill myself tomorrow, but for now I will hang on incase some fun little thing happens, even if it only lasts for 5 minutes.
If you go for walks you will feel empowered. You will gain control over your life. You don't believe me and you shouldn't, but I am promising you that this will happen. When I sit and stay trapped in my own head, I go insane.
Besides walking, help others. Helping others is how I regained enough self esteem to not kill myself, combined with regular excercise.
I have, for the time being (3.5 years so far) overcome an impossible situation, totally hopeless. I did it by finding others with the same problem, and we started helping eachother. It works.

 

[datalink7]

My suggestion is to work on losing some weight.

There are several reasons for this.

1) It gives you a goal in life, a purpose.
2) It is something that is attainable. You can't always be in control of a lot of things in your life, but this one you can.
3) You will feel better about yourself as the weight comes off
4) It will help with your diabetes and your sleep apnea, and general health

Seriously, don't look at the whole shit pile all at once. It can be too much and just lead to depression. Choose one target (your weight), and work on that.

 

[MonKENy]

(so no one gets mad I'm not talking about anyone specific to this thread just using you and them as a general statement)

when it comes to suicide I'm on the pro choice side of things. Seriously go for it. Anyone who tells me I'm a coward is full of shit. No one knows my struggles NO ONE they may be able empathize with me but no one can sympathize. Its a fallacy, we are individuals and there for have individual thoughts, and feelings. I think its the people who talk "oh you hurt the people" or "its selfish" that are selfish

Fuck you..YOU'RE selfish for that, I'M the one struggling, I'M the one miserable, I'M the one hurting. Let me deal with it his own damn way. We are all going to die anyway. At least its somewhat on my terms.

No one knows what its like to die. Most people are afraid of it so they cast down the ones who had to balls to step up and take that fear away.

I've had family commit suicide, I think about it fairly frequently. I haven't made that step and I'm not feeling close to it at the present moment but its always a thought.

People who don't know what its like well never empathize.

You don't know what its like to open your eyes and have to fight with yourself just to get up. Its not fight you always win. Some days are better than other. No medication or Therapy or self help can fix this. Its something that we have to struggle with every day. Yes the therapy and meds help but they don't cure.

Think about this before you condemn the choice of an individual in his or her own life.

 

[QueBert]

find something worth dying for, and live for it.

 

[mentalcase222]

very harsh picture of third world, but i dont think she is thinking about " suicide "

 

[GT1999]

If I had kids I don't think I could ever commit suicide. Any life insurance policies you have would be null and void!!! Not to mention you will scar your kids for life!!

If you think committing suicide is going to be a good option and make people think about all the bad things they've done for you, you're wrong. Suicide is more common than you may think and most people look down on people that do it, and really don't give a shit...

There's a LOT better ways of dealing with your problems. If you are at a low point in your life, then you have nowhere else to go but into a better situation. Look forward to that.

P.S. LISTEN TO THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLTYMN8iD00

 

[manimal]

Has OP responded?

Can a mod try to message him? This thread looks real to me and on not one of those troll hunts...

Cry for help has to be acknowledged.

 

[soulcougher73]

Has OP responded?

Can a mod try to message him? This thread looks real to me and on not one of those troll hunts...

Cry for help has to be acknowledged.

He posted the below on post 39 i think it was. Sounds like he may be trolling.

I expected as much,waggy and the like....bravo.

Will just let this one die,not sure what the fuck I was thinking posting this here...lol

 

[rh71]

to me, not a coward but selfish.

 

[tmc]

yep, suicide is cowardice all right. except in extremely rare cases such as terminal illness (bedridden, etc) where a person needs another person to live life. i just can't imagine living where i need to bother another person to take care of me everyday.

 

[GT1999]

yep, suicide is cowardice all right. except in extremely rare cases such as terminal illness (bedridden, etc) where a person needs another person to live life. i just can't imagine living where i need to bother another person to take care of me everyday.

Even if you're bedridden you shouldn't. There is always hope. I was in a hospital in the ICU for about a month in a coma due to a really bad case of pneumonia and then another month in a regular hospital room, tubes down my throat and on life support. I lost 40 lbs from not having any food for 2 weeks before they put a feeding tube in me. I had a greater chance of dying than living... and I came out fine. Just a trach scar on my neck. Took me a long time to walk and talk again. Took the Foo Fighter's Song "Walk" to a whole new meaning for me.

 

[Bumrush99]

People commit suicide far more than what is reported. They eat themselves to death, they smoke themselves to death, they die a slow death drinking themselves to death.

Killing yourself will surely scar your children and have lifelong consequences that will essentially ruin the lives of your children and closest family members. This is abhorrent behavior and not acceptable.

They way I see it, you have two options. You can continue eating and abusing your body until it wears out and you wind up either dead or in the hospital, or you can wake up every morning with a new desire to overcome all your issues in a positive manner.

The choice is yours. Good luck

 

[manimal]

He posted the below on post 39 i think it was. Sounds like he may be trolling.

hope so..



This kind of thing should not be trifled with.

 

[Krazy4Real]

Yes, suicide is cowardly.

 

[moonbogg]

If OP doesn't respond by end of day I am calling for help. No fucking with this.

 

[dabuddha]

Yes

 

[Vdubchaos]

When the times are tough, think how much worse it can be. You can be living in Africa or Asia...in total poverty...no food.....etc

Suicide is for selfish people. They don't care about anyone but themselves and make their loved ones life miserable (if family lets them of course).

We had a suicide in our family and I did not let it effect me ONE bit. It's like it didn't even happen and the person is completely erased from my memory.

Don't do it man. Life is a rollercoaster, sure it might suck today....tomorrow will be better.

What I suggest you do is physical activity!!!! Nothing else will give you more happiness in life and it sounds like you need it.

Start eating healthy and work out. Make a goal and stick to it. Once that ball gets rolling your life will change for the better.

My mother came from another country to US when she was 45 (didn't know English). She now has 2 houses /business and turned her life around. If she can do it, you can too!!!

PS. I never met a person that thought about suicide but later on didn't say "that was the stupidest time of my life".

Suicide is a jerk reaction. If there is afterlife I'm pretty sure most people would regret ever doing it.