Well, internships didn't sound plausible for someone who is barely even a first year CS major.
I took a year off after high school and had no idea what I wanted to do. I landed an engineering internship with zero experience because I had taken machining for two years and was able to sell myself: I knew about fasteners, engineering drawings, tolerances etc... I taught myself Solidworks and learned from my peers. Since then I've gone through college for engineering with limited help from my parents, and now I'm working as an independent engineering contractor ($$) at a startup company and I still have a year to go before I graduate.
The only one holding yourself back is you
You had two years of experience with machining... I have 0 years with programming. Try landing a software development internship without even knowing wtf MVC is.
You had two years of experience with machining... I have 0 years with programming. Try landing a software development internship without even knowing wtf MVC is.
I learned MVC about a month into my first internship. I had to learn C# and WPF my first few weeks because I had never used the language. This was a big highly ranked company and they tried agressively to hire me after that expeirence.
YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW STUFF TO GET A JOB. IT IS EXPECTED THAT YOU WILL LEARN IN THE BEGINNING.
So? That only gave me a first-degree-of-separation amount of knowledge to the internship I landed. There's only so much overlap between mechanical engineering and machining. You've already been through a year of school, right? If you really wanted to I'm sure you could learn a lot more about CS from your professors- learn the lingo and terms you need to land an internship.
YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW STUFF TO GET A JOB. IT IS EXPECTED THAT YOU WILL LEARN IN THE BEGINNING.
That even if I get an apply and get an interview that I won't get the job. I can't help it that I am honest. It's one of my character flaws, at least in our society.
You're not being honest, you're being a petty little douchebag. It wasn't honesty when you didn't bother to do a bit research about the company. I mean why would you? You're only proposing to work for them 40 hours a week for several months of your life. Lord knows you shouldn't show an inkling of interest in such a commitment. It wasn't honesty when you couldn't come up with a decent answer for why you wanted to work there. All you have to use is an ounce of tact and politeness. Say that you want to grow your work experience and that you feel working at Ross would provide you with the experience that you want. Say that you were familiar with the brand and felt that it would make an impression on other people if you said that you worked there.
it's a department store where they stock clothes and a few plush toys.
She did ask me if I did research the company but I pretty much said no. I mean, why would I have any interest in Ross the company?
:hmm: but.. didnt you say
So.. you DID do some research about the company... you know what they sell..
like most of your responses on here... you're a liar about everything
god. you're worse than neckgrowth
12 hours a week. 3 months of my life maybe? It's Ross. Why would I care? it's a department store where they stock clothes and a few plush toys.
You see! That's not honesty, that's being a petty little douchebag.
That's honesty. That's showing that Ross is not really a valuable asset to me in any way at all except to prove that I've been hired at some place for 12 hours where I can do almost no harm at all to the company for 3 petty months.
If they're potentially providing you with a paycheck and work experience, they are a valuable asset especially when you're not exactly having your door beat down with other offers.
That's honesty. That's showing that Ross is not really a valuable asset to me in any way at all except to prove that I've been hired at some place for 12 hours where I can do almost no harm at all to the company for 3 petty months.
Well, internships didn't sound plausible for someone who is barely even a first year CS major. So, I never looked into them until it was too late. Then everyone is like, "OH YOU CAN GETZ INTERNSHUP EZ. I GOT ONE AFTER MEH SOPHOMOAR YUR." And I am like, "But I just finished maybe the freshmen year equivalent... so, your example makes no sense for me."
For your next job, probably another summer one, having any job history at all will help. During an interview for one of my internships the interviewer mentioned that they didn't expect the applicants to have any experience in the field yet. After all, they're still in school so they haven't had much of a chance to get out and work. However the interviewer said that he like to see that the applicant had worked somewhere for a while, even if it was COMPLETELY unrelated. The fact that somebody somewhere thought you were worth paying to keep around is a sign that you'll be a decent employee.
Up to this point you've proven what they've said is true, though you've been doing it in the reverse. The fact that you're not willing or capable of getting and keeping any job at all is a sign that you aren't the kind of employee that people want around.
Wait a minute... are you saying you already got into the CS department or not?
"Let's see...we have two candidates for our internship, both with approximately the same schooling and grades. One has worked a part-time job at Ross during the summer and his boss gave him glowing reviews, the other candidate apparently hasn't held any job, ever."
Which one will get picked for the internship?
Working crappy part-time jobs isn't about the benefit NOW, other than a bit of extra pocket money, it's about the benefit long-term of showing a work history, getting work references, of showing prospective employers that you can and have held a job...even if it was a less-than-desirable job...most hiring people expect to see shitty retail or restaurant jobs in the early resumes of college students.
But of course, this is Tridentboy we're talking about here. Even though he has zero marketable skills, zero interpersonal skills, and zero drive to succeed...he's too fucking good for a nothing job like Ross.
the issue is that he calls attention to his inexperience (and then uses it as an excuse, but that is another story). To get that first internship, you have to be eager and ambitious. You know, get your hands dirty. If you do not show those qualities, you will not even be able to get a job as anything because you will never have experience.
And yes, you need to put something on that resume. if this means doing an unpaid internship, do it. I mean, you are not working now, so how would it be different if you actually did something productive?
If you get a job doing dumb menial work, it at least shows work ethic.