Seattle has some pretty kickass public transport. Can you drive yourself in and ride public transport the rest of the way to avoid the tolls?
You guys won't believe this... I have another interview at Ross.
This time it's at an entirely different place though. Different guy. Different store. WAY further way. (Bellevue) I'll go for shits and giggles.
At least I know what he'll be asking. I got some bullshitty answers ready.
FUCK. There's tolls on 520 now. ($3-$4 EACH WAY) I guess I have to drive even further to avoid the tolls... Fuck.
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Seattle has some pretty kickass public transport. Can you drive yourself in and ride public transport the rest of the way to avoid the tolls?
Yep, I agree.
You're kidding, right? Who the hell would bother training you and then letting you work 2 hours a week? Also, why are you acting as if you have another job, or are going to get another job, when the fact of the matter is that you're nowhere near close?I don't want a job at Ross. There are many other jobs I wanted, but all the ones I want I don't have the experience for (IT jobs, internships, etc.). I was WILLING to work at Ross though, but ... 12 hours a week? That's just going to be something that will make it difficult to schedule work with another job. And then I'll have two jobs with very variable hours. I'd be fine with it if I was allowed to work a 12 hour day then have a week off, but they spread the 4 hour shifts out quite a bit. >_<
You know, there's a difference between saying what you mean and saying exactly what you mean.If it's a job I want then they'll probably hear things they'll like... If it's not then they'll know I am not bullshitting them at least.
So...you don't want the job for the experience...?If I get asked, "Why do you want to work at Ross", how can I be honest and not brutally candid? There's no way to not be candid when you're trying to say, "it's indoors, easy, and that's it."
I don't think it's a stretch to say that 'I want to get paid' is a better reason than 'it's easy and indoors'. Use your brain for once.But I am not a liar. I am just in it for a paycheck. That's it.
The thing with getting a job is that it requires work. And not just while you're at work. This does not seem to have clicked for you yet.She did ask me if I did research the company but I pretty much said no. I mean, why would I have any interest in Ross the company? Who the fuck cares.
Seriously? You think that other people regard honesty as a character flaw? They probably regard your brand of honesty as a character flaw. But other people can be perfectly honest and still get a job.That even if I get an apply and get an interview that I won't get the job. I can't help it that I am honest. It's one of my character flaws, at least in our society.
lol. You're so funny sometimes. If what you say is true, then this means that you are willing to work for free and since you don't care about the experience you're fine with not putting the job on your CV when you go apply for another job.There is no positive reason besides it's indoors and I can't do outdoor jobs. (Pollen allergies) I mean, there really isn't. What Leros said is about as positive as it gets but at the same time... it screams, "I'm temporary and only in it for the check." No? I don't think I'll get the job at any place. That's the whole point of this thread. I don't have the experience or the fakeness to do such. Until I get a serious skillset worked up (like knowing Java, PHP+MySQL, C++, and Perl) and have done a few projects with them... I won't have much reason to be employed. By the time I graduate with a Masters in CS though... I'll have those things down easy and plenty of projects done. Also, it's likely I'll have at least two internships by then... and it won't be too difficult to get those if I show my projects and expertise.
Then, knowing that you'd have to work extra hard to get a job given your circumstances, you would have started working to get a job long before school finished...rightWell, internships didn't sound plausible for someone who is barely even a first year CS major. So, I never looked into them until it was too late. Then everyone is like, "OH YOU CAN GETZ INTERNSHUP EZ. I GOT ONE AFTER MEH SOPHOMOAR YUR." And I am like, "But I just finished maybe the freshmen year equivalent... so, your example makes no sense for me."
Trust me. I wouldn't waste any of my time on you either.The most I ever got was an email from F5 Networks saying that they received my application but they already were in the interviewing process when I sent in my application+resume. And that's basically an auto-response type email... not personal at all.
lolThe website is down. So, I couldn't look.
Then learn, you lazy bum.You had two years of experience with machining... I have 0 years with programming. Try landing a software development internship without even knowing wtf MVC is.
Then get some experience. Find some good points about Ross, go back to them, and grovel for that job because who the fuck wants to hire an antisocial retard with a dime-a-dozen degree that draws in antisocial retards like a moth to a flame, with no experience working with other people and for other people?I've applied to places, internships and not, and they all pretty much reject me based upon lack of experience and/or lack of skillset. I don't get to the interview process. I can't contact anyone to show them I am interested because they keep huge barriers to make sure no one contacts the hiring managers.
The cost of the transport wouldn't make it worth it. I'm just going to drive on i-90 instead. It's 20 miles more roundtrip and more time, but cheaper....
20 miles total with tolls included. That's about $7 tolls + $3 in gas. $10
39 miles total on alternative route. That's about $5-$6 in gas. $5-$6
I never had to pay for it thanks to an Orca card from my employer. How much is a monthly pass?
Probably $100+. When I go to the interview (tomorrow) I am going to tell him that I am going to need shifts that are more than 4 hours long because of commuting. Literally I will spend about 25% of my money earned on commuting if I do 4 hour shifts. PLUS the hour that I am driving. 5 hours of work for 3 hours of pay. That's if I drive.
If I rode the bus then it's an hour each way. 6 hours for 3 hours of pay or less. (Those bus fares are not cheap)
Probably $100+. When I go to the interview (tomorrow) I am going to tell him that I am going to need shifts that are more than 4 hours long because of commuting. Literally I will spend about 25% of my money earned on commuting if I do 4 hour shifts. PLUS the hour that I am driving. 5 hours of work for 3 hours of pay. That's if I drive.
If I rode the bus then it's an hour each way. 6 hours for 3 hours of pay or less. (Those bus fares are not cheap)
You're kidding, right? Who the hell would bother training you and then letting you work 2 hours a week? Also, why are you acting as if you have another job, or are going to get another job, when the fact of the matter is that you're nowhere near close?
Because even if I got this job then I'll still be looking. I'll be getting less than $300 month from this job if I do the regular 4 hour shifts for a total of 12 hours. I need more than 12 hours and I need 8 hour shifts. Three 8 hour shifts would be fine with me because I'd probably get around $700/month net income. Which is enough to live off of with what I have now until school starts. At which point I'll probably drop the job to focus on school because whatever classes I take will most DEFINITELY take a lot of time. Physics courses especially. So much fucking busy work with those.
Even if you're breaking even (making $0 after transportation costs), the fact that you can put this on your resume is infinitely valuable.
Except that I actually need money to live...
You're not making any money now....
$0 and experience is better than $0.
Unless an opportunity to gain more money shows up, which it very well could...
Oh and the lady called me and basically said she didn't pick me for the job. No duh.
Unless an opportunity to gain more money shows up, which it very well could...
Oh and the lady called me and basically said she didn't pick me for the job. No duh.
If another opportunity comes along, then you can quit and take that opportunity.
Something is better than nothing. Don't reject this job if they give it to yo.
Then just leave and take that new opportunity?
I don't know how they'll pay me. If I quit less than two weeks in, then that's kinda shitty.
True. But you might not quit in two weeks. If you do, so what? I'm sure Ross will manage just fine
Read edited post nao.
If you get something better that quickly, don't mention Ross. And leave Ross off your resume.
If you've been there a month. Its fair game to change jobs.
I don't know how they'll pay me. If I quit less than two weeks in, then that's kinda shitty.
Payment situation? How will this affect everything. I'm imagining being employed there for 10 seconds is going to cause issues.
EDIT: Won't this kinda make the situations awkward with future employers?
"So, you work at Ross right now?"
ME: "Yes. But I am willing to work the hours you give me regardless of Ross. I will quit even."
"So, you're telling me that if I hire you... you could also quit me in a heartbeat too. NO HIRE."
Space Needle hires a lot. I even wrote a little cover letter explaining that I have volunteering experience with cashiering and customer service that makes me a valuable applicant/somewhat-overselling.
But, damn. I really don't wanna work at Ross. I want to work at F5 networks or something... they pay better, relevant work, and much better experience. I mean, I don't even get EXPERIENCE from Ross. I get a line on my resume and that's it.