How is it fraud?
? No. Most people here talk about getting internships 2nd year or after. That said, most people in the CS department at UW are not 1st year students anyway. (Unless they did accelerated admission or got in Spring of first year) They're sophomores or above usually and so it's inevitable they get an internship 2nd year+ really. It's not like you learn enough in those first two CS classes to do much anyway.
Regardless, I won't be getting into the CS program this year until Spring because I don't have Calc III complete. (Couldn't get into a class without a chinese instructor that doesn't speak English) Also doesn't help my GPA from North Seattle is something like 3.7 now. Ugh... (Looked again: Actually is 3.66. FML) So annoying. I'm averaging something like an A- GPA. That's horrible!
The likelihood of getting equal candidates like that is nil.
No, you're wrong. You first have to get your resume reviewed by a hiring manager. Then they have to decide whether they want a candidate who has no work experience listed. Then once they go through that first judgement process (Which usually means your resume is thrown in the trash instantly at the sight of no work experience), they see if it's RELEVANT work experience. Then they look at skill sets, then they read an optional cover letter, then more. That's how the review process works. They'll look at these resumes, figure some # out of them to call, then a series of interviews.
Unpaid internships don't exist for CS majors. (Ok, they do, but they're practically scams with the lack of legitimacy behind them)
Come on. Let's be a bit realistic here. Given how much success you've had with finding a job so far, I don't think clashing with another job will be a problem.Because even if I got this job then I'll still be looking. I'll be getting less than $300 month from this job if I do the regular 4 hour shifts for a total of 12 hours. I need more than 12 hours and I need 8 hour shifts. Three 8 hour shifts would be fine with me because I'd probably get around $700/month net income. Which is enough to live off of with what I have now until school starts. At which point I'll probably drop the job to focus on school because whatever classes I take will most DEFINITELY take a lot of time. Physics courses especially. So much fucking busy work with those.
Trident, you need to listen to people who have actual experience and stop making excuses. It is laughable and pathetic. Your latest excuse of possibly not wanting to take a job at Ross because you "might" get another offer is ridiculous. For one, you haven't gotten a job in this long so a second offer may not come along. For two, if it does, you take whichever job pays more. It doesn't matter if you've been at one job one day, 2 days, or 2 weeks -- you'll get paid for time worked and it is retail, so they are used to high turnover.
People here are actually trying to help you and no matter what advice you get, you ALWAYS find an excuse not to take it. I was once like you and thought I knew it all, but I grew up and started listening to people who had a lot more experience and it paid dividends.
I am wrong? I have been through how many internships? You act like I am not familiar with how it works.
Stop making excuses....there have been plenty of cases where kids out of high school get internships. I worked with two when I interned at BOSE.One was paid, the other was unpaid. And guess what....they were doing computer programming and they knew as much as you probably do.
But, damn. I really don't wanna work at Ross. I want to work at F5 networks or something... they pay better, relevant work, and much better experience. I mean, I don't even get EXPERIENCE from Ross. I get a line on my resume and that's it.
Got the job. This guy literally asked me one or two questions and then was like, "Alright, let's just cut through the rest of this. Do you want a job at Ross?" I said yes and he was like, "Alright, done!"
And then went on to explain some things and we talked about some stuff. Pretty sweet. This guy is definitely way more awesome than the lady I had before.
Got the job. This guy literally asked me one or two questions and then was like, "Alright, let's just cut through the rest of this. Do you want a job at Ross?" I said yes and he was like, "Alright, done!"
And then went on to explain some things and we talked about some stuff. Pretty sweet. This guy is definitely way more awesome than the lady I had before.
Got the job. This guy literally asked me one or two questions and then was like, "Alright, let's just cut through the rest of this. Do you want a job at Ross?" I said yes and he was like, "Alright, done!"
And then went on to explain some things and we talked about some stuff. Pretty sweet. This guy is definitely way more awesome than the lady I had before.
Don't fuck this up...
The odds of him lasting very long are worse than the odds of me winning the Lotto without buying a ticket.
His severe case of self-entitlement will kill this job...maybe before he even starts.
"What? I have to be to work by 12 noon? Why that means I'll have to get up before 9 AM if I want to take the bus...Outrageous. Who the fuck to they think they are?"
? No. Most people here talk about getting internships 2nd year or after. That said, most people in the CS department at UW are not 1st year students anyway. (Unless they did accelerated admission or got in Spring of first year) They're sophomores or above usually and so it's inevitable they get an internship 2nd year+ really. It's not like you learn enough in those first two CS classes to do much anyway.
Regardless, I won't be getting into the CS program this year until Spring because I don't have Calc III complete. (Couldn't get into a class without a chinese instructor that doesn't speak English) Also doesn't help my GPA from North Seattle is something like 3.7 now. Ugh... (Looked again: Actually is 3.66. FML) So annoying. I'm averaging something like an A- GPA. That's horrible!
Aren't you doing running start... because then you'd be considered a sophomore or a junior by standing, which means by your standards, you should ALREADY have an internship under your belt *cough*. I did two years of RS, got an internship my first summer @ UW, research for my second, and now an internship and research for my third. I strongly believe that if I was motivated enough, I could easily have obtained an internship during the transition from community college to UW.
CSE 142/143 teach you A LOT of what you need to know. It just really depends if you took the time to learn other programming languages on your own time to further enhance your learning experience. From what you've been saying, you haven't. I bet if you actually talked to one of the CS professors (e.g. Offenback, Jinguji, Goldner, etc.), you wouldn't be complaining the way you are now. From what I've heard around campus, Hon Li is not as bad as you portray him to be.
Just to throw in my $0.02, I knew someone that worked for F5 Networks. He had a lot of practical programming and networking knowledge, and so he was a prime fit for that company. All the knowledge he gained was on his own time. He was an Informatics major too.
No, I'm like 20. (21 in a month or so) I'm far out of high school. And, it's different if you're running-start versus a 20 year old in CC. Running-start is like, "Oh, you're beyond the typical." 20 yr old in CC is like, "Oh, you're below the typical... way below."
And, you might want to start arguing your stance with fellow ATOTers. They all say knowing a language is useless gibberish that only nubs like yourself would think. Considering 142/143 barely gets you in the door with Java... I didn't feel confident in trying a new language because if I don't even have one language down good, why try to learn another to not get any further? Also, I don't exactly have GOOD project ideas right now. That is ruining any motivation to further learn a language. When you have a desire to actually create something... you find learning shit is way easier and interesting.
Stating Running-start students are beyond the typical is a misconception. They are all students that believe an education at community college is more valuable to them than at high school. It does not prepare them for college level courses, and any mistakes made during enrollment via Running Start will affect their chances getting into their department of choice later on. Trying to figure out how you're perceived by others in a learning environment is outright stupid btw. If anything, it should motivate you to try harder.
The concepts you learn in 142/143 are important. If you don't feel you are confident to code in Java, then it implies that you didn't understand the concepts. Each language has their own philosophy, but many use very similar concepts.
There is definitely a perception that running start > regular high school.
Coding in Java is different than understanding the concepts. There are so many things about Java that go beyond just knowing some very basic concepts.
I dont want to read this entire thread, can someone sum it up for me?