Summer movie box office sales down 20%

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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Losing money? Time to raise the ticket prices, that'll get some butts in the chairs
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
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Well gee, you have a sequel to a kids cartoon that should have been direct to video in the first place (Planes 2).

A sequel to a movie that never needed a sequel. The Purge.

The sequel to a remake. Dawn of the Apes.

A comedy with a fat, obnoxious blob that has no right trying to carry a movie. Tammy.

The *FOURTH* installment to a kids cartoon from the 80's. Transformers.

A sequel to a remake of an 80's television show. 22 Jump Street.

A sequel to a kids movie that actually did fairly well. Train your Dragon 2.

And you wonder why sales are down???


Here's the best part. I actually want to see Dawn of the Apes, The Purge and Transformers. My wife wants to see Tammy and Train your Dragon 1 was one of the few cartoon movies I've ever actually liked. But we won't be seeing ANY of these in the theatre? Why? Same reason I don't go watch NFL games in a stadium. The experience is far to expensive and no where near good enough to warrant it. If a movie was $20 tops for my wife and I (including that shit popcorn and drink) then I would probably go more often. But It's just such a ripoff. That's the bottom line. It's not expensive, it's a ripoff. Aka, the value does not warrant the prices. It's a very simple concept.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
20,433
1,769
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Note to movie industry: If you want me to go to a movie theater, give me a reason. With overpriced food and people on cell phones, the theater experience flat out sucks. And maybe 1 movie in 1000 is "OMG, I have to see that on a big screen now!" while the other 999 are "meh, wait for DVD release, watch at home". I'm not pirating your re-packaged crap, most of it isn't even good enough to want to steal it let alone to want to pay for it.

Yea, nail hit n head, 1st off make a rule, your phone goes on vibrate only and you answer calls/text from the lobby, caught doing otherwise, your gone, no refund. 2nd, write some original great stories instead of "Iron man 12", where's the next "Shawshank Redemption"?, the only movie I wished I had seen in the big screen lately is "Gravity" which would have been worth the $10..
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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I'm not a big movie watcher but I'd love to get a projector and do movie night in my backyard. Would be far more enjoyable that going to the theatre.

I think you'll eventually start seeing the whole cinema system getting phased out over the next decade in favour of direct digital releases. A lot of indie filmmakers are already doing that. It's a cost effective way to reach a wide audience.

What are you waiting for? Decent ht projctors can be had for about a grand.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
30,160
3,302
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I predict a slew of empowered women movies will hit the screens next year.
they're the new flavor of the month
 

n7

Elite Member
Jan 4, 2004
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This is shocking news.

Perhaps they should do something about, like, i dunno... STOP MAKING SHIT MOVIES.

Hollywood can go eff itself, and shove the 3D it's force-fed us up its ass.

I'll keep seeing those films i want to in our local arthouse theatres, and i still go to the big theatres for stuff too, but with how expensive tickets are + 3D being forced on us, i'm often pretty happy to wait.
 

Scarpozzi

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
26,389
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I predict a slew of empowered women movies will hit the screens next year.
they're the new flavor of the month
That's because a lot of women are lazy and sit around all day. They can spend their husband's money and go to manatees in the middle of the day.
 

Pr0d1gy

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Jan 30, 2005
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But we won't be seeing ANY of these in the theatre? Why? Same reason I don't go watch NFL games in a stadium. The experience is far to expensive and no where near good enough to warrant it. If a movie was $20 tops for my wife and I (including that shit popcorn and drink) then I would probably go more often. But It's just such a ripoff. That's the bottom line. It's not expensive, it's a ripoff. Aka, the value does not warrant the prices. It's a very simple concept.

This. I have 3 kids. Taking the family to the movies costs more than a brand new videogame and the value of the experience (2 hours of annoyance -can't pause to go pee, people talking, phones going off, etc- vs. 20-200+ hours of awesome) is a joke. Add in the fact that I have a 200" screen in my living room then it makes it that much less appealing because I already have a big screen.

There is still a drive-in movie theater near my folks' lake house and that place is totally worth it, though. They even beam the sound in through your stereo these days instead of the old school speaker phone box you hang on your window...lol

Maybe the answer is to bring back well priced drive-ins.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Punch Drunk Love is my favorite movie of Sandler's (starring, not writing) and how many people have even heard of it, much less paid to see it in the theater.

It's actually a PT Anderson movie, which is why it is awesome...and why few have heard of it.

The cast is mostly irrelevant when you have someone like that behind the film.
 

KeithTalent

Elite Member | Administrator | No Lifer
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Nov 30, 2005
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It's actually a PT Anderson movie, which is why it is awesome...and why few have heard of it.

The cast is mostly irrelevant when you have someone like that behind the film.

Agreed, though having PSH in there would help mask any acting deficiencies found elsewhere in the film.

KT
 

squarecut1

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Nov 1, 2013
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Once upon a time you had people like David Lean making timeless classics like Lawrence of Arabia. Movies with layers and layers of meaning. Such craft and skills. That stunningly beautiful shot of the desert horizon and mirage, where Omar Sharif makes his first entry...ah....don't know how many times I have seen that scene.

Or Dustin Hoffman in that memorable role in Midnight Cowboy.

Now movies like King's Speech get Oscars. What a comedown it has been for Hollywood, perhaps reflecting the overall degradation of culture and arts.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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Once upon a time you had people like David Lean making timeless classics like Lawrence of Arabia. Movies with layers and layers of meaning. Such craft and skills. That stunningly beautiful shot of the desert horizon and mirage, where Omar Sharif makes his first entry...ah....don't know how many times I have seen that scene.

Or Dustin Hoffman in that memorable role in Midnight Cowboy.

Now movies like King's Speech get Oscars. What a comedown it has been for Hollywood, perhaps reflecting the overall degradation of culture and arts.

Yeah! Let's compare movies that were literally the best of the best of our time and compare it to crap nobody is going to remember in 10 years. Let's not mention any of the movies that came out during the time of Lawrence of Arabia that was truly god awful and only the studio exec that okay'd it and his friends remembers, only so they can still mock him about it.

Same thing with music. Everyone praises the Beatles and says that generation of music was so much better than the Justin Beiber shit we get today, without any acknowledgement that there was truly awful pop music then as well. We just remember that which truly stands out as great.
 

disappoint

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Dec 7, 2009
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I told you mofos what would happen. Didn't I tell you mofos what would happen? Stay the fuck outta movie theaters mofos. You'd get more entertainment out of a nerdfest forum! -Lincoln
 

squarecut1

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Yeah! Let's compare movies that were literally the best of the best of our time and compare it to crap nobody is going to remember in 10 years. Let's not mention any of the movies that came out during the time of Lawrence of Arabia that was truly god awful and only the studio exec that okay'd it and his friends remembers, only so they can still mock him about it.

Same thing with music. Everyone praises the Beatles and says that generation of music was so much better than the Justin Beiber shit we get today, without any acknowledgement that there was truly awful pop music then as well. We just remember that which truly stands out as great.
No, it is not like that. You can go down the list of all Oscar winners from recent years and see how truly ordinary and crap they are. Compare that with the top movies of those times. You can't seriously be suggesting that the overall standard has not gone down drastically?
 

disappoint

Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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Hollywood can go eff itself, and shove the 3D it's force-fed us up its ass.

I'll keep seeing those films i want to in our local arthouse theatres, and i still go to the big theatres for stuff too, but with how expensive tickets are + 3D being forced on us...

Yeah man what is up with these hollyweird ass mofos taking me outta my house at gunpoint and draggin my ass down to the movie theater? This is some mofoin bullshit man! I say we file a class action lawsuit against those mofos!

And what is with the 3D? First of all it's 4D mofos and second don't these mofos know I lost an eye drilling into steel reinforced concrete with a cordless drill and a toothpick as a drill bit? I didn't have any drill bits left so I used a toothpick. Mofo snapped in half can you beliee dishit? I don't wears no saffey glass neither cause them mofos make me look weird and is uncomfortaboo an shit.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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No, it is not like that. You can go down the list of all Oscar winners from recent years and see how truly ordinary and crap they are. Compare that with the top movies of those times. You can't seriously be suggesting that the overall standard has not gone down drastically?

The Academy Awards process is highly political and lots of good movies have been passed over the decades. It is an exceedingly poor metric to base that claim on.
 

squarecut1

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The Academy Awards process is highly political and lots of good movies have been passed over the decades. It is an exceedingly poor metric to base that claim on.
Agreed. But where are the movies in the last few years, or even more than that, that come anywhere close to the great ones from the past
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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No, it is not like that. You can go down the list of all Oscar winners from recent years and see how truly ordinary and crap they are. Compare that with the top movies of those times. You can't seriously be suggesting that the overall standard has not gone down drastically?

Again, you're comparing the best movie of a single recent year with the best movies of all time...

You don't think 12 Years a Slave and Dallas Buyer's Club stands up to movies of the past? Or the Departed? And how far back are "recent times"? Schindler's List was in '93 and the Shawshank Redemption was in '94.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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No, it is not like that. You can go down the list of all Oscar winners from recent years and see how truly ordinary and crap they are. Compare that with the top movies of those times. You can't seriously be suggesting that the overall standard has not gone down drastically?

Gone with the wind was shit. Just saying.


Also: look at the imdb page of any top tier actor and you will see numerous piles of shit, no matter what decade you look at.
 
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K1052

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Agreed. But where are the movies in the last few years, or even more than that, that come anywhere close to the great ones from the past

This is a highly subjective judgement to be making based on someone's personal perspective. I'm still relatively youngish but have seen a lot of the classics. I don't necessarily have the connection to them that say someone of my parents generation may....even if I concur that they are excellent films in their own right.
 

amicold

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Feb 7, 2005
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RIAA blamed sluggish cd's sales on Napster and piracy when it was people no longer wanted to buy a plastic disc with 1 or 2 good songs on it. Sites like Pandora is the best thing to ever happen to music, hardly anyone downloads songs anymore since it's all available for streaming.

Let's look at some of the 2014 movies, shall we:
* Godzilla - horrible remake with hardly any monster battles
* Transcendence - Johnny Depp downloads his mind into a computer and comes back to life, typical Hollywood nonsense
* Edge of Tomorrow - basically Groundhog Day but in wartime.
* Sex Tape - Hollywood still doesn't understand how the internet works.
* Lucy - magical powers comes to people who use 100% of there brain

Yep, Hollywood keeps pumping out crap. With movies tickets around $13, $20 with popcorn. A family of four would spend close to $70 see a movie. We need a Pandora version for movies. You pay one price per month and can view all the newest releases or older stuff instantly.

I predict movie theaters are going the route of the VHS and DVD players.

OT but Hello fellow buffalonian. Never saw another on atot.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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It's actually a PT Anderson movie, which is why it is awesome...and why few have heard of it.

The cast is mostly irrelevant when you have someone like that behind the film.

Except to the average movie goer, the actors and actresses are the film. Writer and director? Most people couldn't tell you who those were for most movies, but they could tell you the stars.
 
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