Quite the internal struggle you have in there then.
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It probably is. redacted.
I'll be surprised if the 13th clears a whole lot up, though.The 13th can't come soon enough I'm afraid :\
You're probably right. I very much doubt we get any meaningful numbers as far as performance is concerned. What would be nice is to at least get a preview of the SKU lineup.I'll be surprised if the 13th clears a whole lot up, though.
I would like to see what happens when Intel feels some pressure, so I want Zen to put pressure on Intel.You're probably right. I very much doubt we get any meaningful numbers as far as performance is concerned. What would be nice is to at least get a preview of the SKU lineup.
My circa ~2011 i5 2500K build is starting to have problems. I'm getting random lock ups and freezes, red and blue screens of death. Could be the mobo, could be the memory, could be the PSU (doubtful, quality Seasonic unit), could be something else. Regardless, its time for me to build a new rig seeing as I refuse to spend over $400 for an 8-core processor, I'm really hoping AMD delivers with Zen and SOON!
Pentiums with HTT and a k model i3,that's about as much pressure as intel felt from ZEN.I would like to see what happens when Intel feels some pressure, so I want Zen to put pressure on Intel.
Agree with the latter but not the former.Pentiums with HTT and a k model i3,that's about as much pressure as intel felt from ZEN.
It's not like the biggest cpu maker in the world doesn't have the best inside into the possibilities and potential for what AMD might be able to make,they don't have to wait for ZEN to release they already have the best and the worst case scenarios figured out long ago.
If they want customer don't buy an INTEL system for christmas, they must give a reason to wait at least january... They should give a solid, convincing, bench (a game, i presume)... Otherwise customers will stick to INTEL...
You're probably right. I very much doubt we get any meaningful numbers as far as performance is concerned. What would be nice is to at least get a preview of the SKU lineup.
My circa ~2011 i5 2500K build is starting to have problems. I'm getting random lock ups and freezes, red and blue screens of death. Could be the mobo, could be the memory, could be the PSU (doubtful, quality Seasonic unit), could be something else. Regardless, its time for me to build a new rig seeing as I refuse to spend over $400 for an 8-core processor, I'm really hoping AMD delivers with Zen and SOON!
There are millions of people buy today because they dont know about what is coming next week or month or they simple dont care and they want to get something today.
Only people like us wait for 2-3 or 6 months for the next new arch and we are the minority.
I would like to see what happens when Intel feels some pressure, so I want Zen to put pressure on Intel.
We need to move CPU development forward.
With Intel's revenue, they don't have all that room to grow, since R&D as % revenue is already approaching 25%, sadly (but impressively).Intel does feel pressure. The ARMy has been yelling for years that they're coming for their server share and AMD has also been saying since mid 2014 that it's doing an all new CPU uarch for high performance markets.
Look deep in Intel's financials, they have boosted their R&D by a ton over the last few years. There is only one tech company in the world that spends more on R&D.
A lot of Intel's R&D research spend increase is in trying to diversify away from the PC market. Baseband chips, automotive, IoT etc.. Their recent layoffs were mostly in the PC divisions.
What if Zen 8 core costs more than $400?
I am hoping they will all be unlocked like the FX was. There will probably be 2 8c/8t parts. The higher clocked/binned one and the regular one.Oh, it's definitely going to be more than $400 at launch regardless of the actual performance.
I'm thinking there will be 4 models - a 8 core Black Edition, another 8 core, a 6 core and a 4 core. The 8 BE model will be the only one available initially and lets say 600-700 bucks. Maybe they will throw in a high end cooler to go with it if Zen can overclock at all.
I still feel their increase in process tech is too little. They're saying "nah, Moore's Law's too difficult for us, we'll chill here at 3 yrs per node". TSMC has upped its pace, so being stuck on the same thing for such a long time is uncompetitive.PC and mobile SoC. Their big increases have been in Data Center Group, non volatile memory, and IoTG.
I would like to see what happens when Intel feels some pressure, so I want Zen to put pressure on Intel.
We need to move CPU development forward.
Pentiums with HTT and a k model i3,that's about as much pressure as intel felt from ZEN.
It's not like the biggest cpu maker in the world doesn't have the best inside into the possibilities and potential for what AMD might be able to make,they don't have to wait for ZEN to release they already have the best and the worst case scenarios figured out long ago.
What if Zen 8 core costs more than $400?
Naples 16c
No idea.. someone just shared the pics..Quad or OCT channel?
8 core is dual channel - I imagine that 16 core will be quad channel. Why would AMD turn off two channels?Quad or OCT channel?