If someone with aspirations of being President of the united States bows readily to peer pressure then that's an indictment.
If someone with aspirations of being President of the united States bows readily to peer pressure then that's an indictment.It's not a weak defense.
Anyone voting against it at the time would have been called "UNAMERIKAN".
Dubya invaded with a mandate over even a lot of intelligence at the time, he had to dig hard for that non existent yellow cake to justify it.
Its looks like Trump won this round as well. Poor Hillary could not even keep up. But to her credit she did not cackle like I thought she would.
If someone with aspirations of being President of the united States bows readily to peer pressure then that's an indictment.
Still delusional, huh?
It's not a weak defense.
Anyone voting against it at the time would have been called "UNAMERIKAN".
Dubya invaded with a mandate over even a lot of intelligence at the time, he had to dig hard for that non existent yellow cake to justify it.
Its looks like Trump won this round as well. Poor Hillary could not even keep up. But to her credit she did at least keep her cool this time.
Then she's a rube.She said she trusted Dubya to do the right thing. He didn't. He lied all along, controlling the flow of disinformation to both the People & Congress.
Trump did good in comparison to the usual Trump, and probably good enough for his supporters to not bail on him. But Hillary was President of the United States.
Still delusional, huh?
Then she's a rube.
She said she trusted Dubya to do the right thing. He didn't. He lied all along, controlling the flow of disinformation to both the People & Congress.
The Senate doesn't have its own CIA, they have to rely on the intelligence provided by the executive branch.Then she's a rube.
Then she's a rube.
C- on your trolling effort. You gotta step up your game.George Bush has been the greatest president of the 21st century (so far). He never lied about anything.
C- on your trolling effort. You gotta step up your game.
Everyone knew the admin wanted war.Seriously ?
I'd always held your opinions in higher regard in the past, I have trouble imaging you really believe that.
Everyone knew the admin wanted war.
Congress loves to have these votes that they can basically absolve themselves of any responsibility. the authorization to use military force was not the first and is certainly not the last.
But if her defense of her vote is "well I thought bush would try diplomacy or sanctions" then she's a rube.
Nothing was stopping that war short of Saddam very publicly throwing up his hands, declaring "I got nothing!" and then letting unfettered inspections happen.
And that was about as likely to happen as bush looking for a diplomatic solution.
Everyone knew the admin wanted war.
Congress loves to have these votes that they can basically absolve themselves of any responsibility. the authorization to use military force was not the first and is certainly not the last.
But if her defense of her vote is "well I thought bush would try diplomacy or sanctions" then she's a rube.
Nothing was stopping that war short of Saddam very publicly throwing up his hands, declaring "I got nothing!" and then letting unfettered inspections happen.
And that was about as likely to happen as bush looking for a diplomatic solution.
The Senate doesn't have its own CIA, they have to rely on the intelligence provided by the executive branch.
She should hammer the republicans for lying about it, causing her bad vote.
i know how leverage works, i sent a pm to (iirc) hayabusa rider/winston smith (or maybe fausto1) way back in the day expounding on credible threats and game theory.You do understand how leverage works right? If you have another country's leader being defiant and you need them to cooperate, then you threaten them with the use of force. Its kind of hard for a US president to even use that threat when the use of force must be approved by Congress first. Congress voted for that leverage because Bush said he would use war as a last resort. You nor anyone else outside of his administration knew he had no intention of not doing that, you can say you did but you'd be full of shit. Your gut may have told you not to trust him but arm chair quarter backing doesn't really mean shit in the real world.
Dubya at the time was saying he was going to try diplomacy.
Saddam pretty much did throw his hands up in the air and declare I got nothing, there were even UN inspectors running around not finding jack shit.
They had to have Powell fall on his sword over the yellow cake BS later.
You know all this.
If she had voted against it at the time, she would have looked a lot worse than giving him a mandate to make a decision.
That is not being a rube.
no, saddam reached out through a lebanese businessman. that's not publicly doing it. and of course richard fucking perle rejected saddam's private offer.
WMD was a guaranteed thing according to Bush & Company. You had to take their word for it, of course they couldn't divulge their sources, that shit's classified. So, they went in, overwhelmed the country and finally smoked Saddam out of a trap door. Who's to blame? Well, Bush and Chaney, who else is to blame when it turns out that a guarantee that the WMD were there turned out to be a myth. You call her a rube, but did you know that WMD was a myth? I don't think so.Then she's a rube.