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astrosfan90

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Sorry to see that Robor. Sucks that things aren't working out for you.

I took my gizmo with me to New York and it works. Kinda fun to call my mom from my home number and have her answer asking why I'm not in New York.
 

Project86

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Nov 12, 2002
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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: Project86
Originally posted by: Robor
Project86: I have the same issue with the gizmo needing to be bounced. The VOIP light is on but I don't get a dial tone. Mine is on a UPS as well. And yeah, it's pretty annoying when the power goes off and the UPS starts howling. I've got 3 UPS's. Two for my PC's and cablemodem, router, and gizmo. The other for my home theater setup. Wish I could silence them but it's worth it to have them protected.

That's not exactly what my problem is. I have the 4 lower lights on, but the VOIP light is not. I also can't get thru to internet. It's like all info is going thru the gizmo, and for some reason it won't let data pass thru sometimes. Or maybe, like some people have suggested, the ISP goes out for a short time. But shouldn't the gizmo be able to recover from that?

As far as the UPS beeping... I don't see the point in even having one if it will be so annoying that I'll have to turn it off. I might as well just use a decent surge protector instead. I don't suppose there is any possible way to turn off the beeps? I'll look into that but I doubt it.


I'm probably the wrong one to talk to here because I'm going to trash SunRocket as far as any technical issue but I'll try and be fair... Have you had 'net connectivity issues before installing the gizmo? If not then it's suspect.

As far as UPS vs surge protector that's apples/oranges. I wouldn't put a system I cared about behind a 'power strip'. I've seen too many parts fail behind them in brown outs or power surges. If I care about an electronic piece of hardware it's sitting in an APC UPS now (with warranty).


I got comcast cable internet and SR at the same time, when I moved into a new house, so it's hard to tell if it is SR or the ISP having intermittent outages. If it IS the ISP, I expect the gizmo to be able to recover from it, but it seems to need a power cycle before it works again.... even though I can bypass the gizmo and show that the cable modem works just fine.

And I wans't talking about just a little power strip, I mean a decent surge protector. I've survived some major power issues with my PC intact (even though the microwave, toaster oven, and a bunch of other stuff fried) because my PC was behind a $25 surge protector. I'm sure the APC UPS is even better, but if I don't get to take advantage of the battery backup (because the beeping is too loud), it's just not worth it for me.

I contacted APC about disabling the beep, they haven't got back to me yet. According to their FAQ, it looks like the software that came with the UPS will let you disable 'alerts'. I'm not sure if there is a seperate alert that the program activates, thru your pc speakers, or if they are refering to the beep from the UPS. Either way it doesn't help me because I turn the PC off at night, so the program would no longer be in control.

On another note, SR finally answered one of my old questions: they said I should enable MAC address cloning, and that will help me not to have issues. How does that sound?


 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: astrosfan90
...I took my gizmo with me to New York and it works. Kinda fun to call my mom from my home number and have her answer asking why I'm not in New York.
That has to be one of the coolest...
Hi mom. I'm in Moscow.
"But, you are calling from home."
Yeah, I just moved...
 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: Project86
...On another note, SR finally answered one of my old questions: they said I should enable MAC address cloning, and that will help me not to have issues. How does that sound?
I thought the Gizmo automatically did that by default???

 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: hbsalesinc
What is the Phone 2 jack on the Innomedia Gizmo used for?
Hopefully for the "soon to be enabled second line", providing I don't die of old age first.

 

Project86

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Originally posted by: RideFree
Originally posted by: Project86
...On another note, SR finally answered one of my old questions: they said I should enable MAC address cloning, and that will help me not to have issues. How does that sound?
I thought the Gizmo automatically did that by default???

No, I checked and mine is not. Is that something I should do then? Why?
 

Mawashi

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Originally posted by: Robor
I think you should be able to connect to your gizmo with a browser pointed to it's IP via the LAN port. IIRC the gizmo is 192.168.251.1 - username is admin and password is welcome. I don't remember if you can map ports though. If you're going cable modem > gizmo > router > internal LAn the easy way would be just drop your router in the DMZ of the gizmo. That way it shouldn't block anything.


Just did that and it works now! Thanks Robor!
 

The Batt?sai

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Originally posted by: Robor
I think you should be able to connect to your gizmo with a browser pointed to it's IP via the LAN port. IIRC the gizmo is 192.168.251.1 - username is admin and password is welcome. I don't remember if you can map ports though. If you're going cable modem > gizmo > router > internal LAn the easy way would be just drop your router in the DMZ of the gizmo. That way it shouldn't block anything.

i was getting crappy speeds and my connection kept dropping for half a second whenever i had bursts of bandwidth happening. so, gizmo to a router port. no loss of call quality even using full bandwidth simulatenously, and no more connection randomly disaperring. anyone else have this problem?
 

iamme

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Jul 21, 2001
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my gizmo went out and would't come back on, until i used this method:

1. power down all components (modem, router, gizmo)
2. connect modem to PC directly
3. power on modem and PC, allowing modem to cycle and confirm PC has internet access
4. leaving modem powered on, unplug ethernet cable from modem to PC
5. connect yellow cable from powered down gizmo to powered on cable modem
6. power up gizmo (this method seems to "trick" my cable modem and/or gizmo, and i get a VOIP light consistently)
7. connect gizmo to router and router to PC
8. power on router and confirm PC has internet access

this seems to work for me more consistently than any method in the SR handbook. the key seems to be to "trick" the modem by connecting it to the PC first. any thoughts onto why this is the only consistent method that works for me? btw, i have yet to get the gizmo to work behind my router.
 

rich123

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this seems to work for me more consistently than any method in the SR handbook. the key seems to be to "trick" the modem by connecting it to the PC first. any thoughts onto why this is the only consistent method that works for me? btw, i have yet to get the gizmo to work behind my router.

Sounds like your ISP validates your connection using your PCs NICs MAC address.

If that's true, you might be able to clone that MAC address in the gizmo or your router.
 

georgepa

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iamme-

Vonage would be the LAST place I looked if I weren't happy with current customer service. They are probably the worst I ever encountered, and I experienced Dell and HP ad nauseum (which means It is really bad.)

On Friday I had a terrible Vonage exeperience. A new client asked me to look over her computer system. It was running excruciatingly slow. Turns out her Vonage adapter is cutting bandwidth in a major way, which is why they unplugged the Vonage line completely and relied just on cell for their phones. I got them a router and separated voice from data, and that helped the speed issue. But the adapter also rebooted itself occasionally and ran very hot. I called Vonage tech support, and that was an adventure in itself. Took forever and the guy was not friendly at all. I explained about the rebooting part (and that I was a computer networking specialist) and he agreed that the unit needed replacing. But the original unit (which was purchased by the lady almost a year ago in a local Best Buy) had to be shipped back to Vonage at HER expense and in the original packaging it came with a year ago. She does not have the original packing box from a year ago, but he did not care, insisted that it had to be in that box. When she asked when her contract would be up he stated that there is no contract, that the service is on a month to month basis. So she responded "So, if there is no contract I don't have to pay any cancellation fee, then?" to which he of course made her aware of the $41 cancellation fee. So, OF COURSE there is a contract. When I asked if they could at least pick up the shipping charges, he reacted kind of nasty to me. I said "You don't understand, with all the problems these people were having, they are close to cancelling. It would show some good-will if you did something like pick up the shipping charges back to you." He refused. He also refused to ship overnight, referred me to customer service for such special requests. He was basically smug and not helpful at all, very unprofessional. He was the type who does not care if you cancel with them because "we already have many customers, who cares?" attitude.

They had a nightmare year with Vonage, from what she told me. After getting service on July 4th of last year porting of their Verizon # took until the end of November, with no explanation given, an extremely long time during which they had to carry not only the $28 for Vonage but also their expensive POTS line. No concession or free months were given for that debacle. They also had call quality issues, dropped calls, sometimes the other party can not hear them, etc. She had never heard of Sunrocket, but she is ready to pull the trigger on it. Just another month of wait before getting it so she can avoid the cancellation fee (calculating about 30 days for # porting to SR to bring the Vonage debacle to an end after July 4th.)

SRs level 1 customer service is script and ticket based, so not as helpful as a direct-link to true engineering and tech support could be. But they are a heck of a lot better than what Vonage puts on with their script-based smugness from overseas and their even worse smugness from their obviously overworked tech support people. IMO, of course.
 

RideFree

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When Vonnage used Cicso, the cancellation fee was waived if you returned the gear in the original box.
I wonder if this is a part of that equation?
 

Kelemvor

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Well, no turning back now. Submitted to have my land lin enumber transferred over last week an djust got the email that it should be completed on 5/4/06. Hopefully everything goes off without a hitch. heh.
 

stuman74

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Well, no turning back now. Submitted to have my land lin enumber transferred over last week an djust got the email that it should be completed on 5/4/06. Hopefully everything goes off without a hitch. heh.

Do you have SunRocket? They actually sent you and e-mail with a completion date? I submitted my number transfer on 4/17. I received my adapter on 4/21. Can't receive calls on the temp number yet, but based on my previous one from SR, it will probably take me till 4/28 just for that.
 

georgepa

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Ridefree-

What's funny and at the same time outrageous is that the lady bought her adapter at a local store at high expense. She did not even get a rebate of any kind. Now she is supposed to be shipping *her* adapter, which she fully paid for, to them. Shouldn't they be sending the darn thing to them, since without it she can't use their service at all, forcing an instant cancellation?

What's more, there is that cancellation fee of $41 if you don't stay a whole year, but, from what that guy (unpleasant fellow) told us she WILL have to ship the adapter to Vonage whenever she cancels. That despite the fact that she paid full price for it at a local store, it should be HERS to do as she pleases (i.e. sell on ebay.) She feels kind of ripped off at this point. She does not have the original box, so she'll be sending the adapter in the box that the replacement unit comes in. If they have a problem with that, too bad. She is prepared to stop-payment on her credit card if they charge her.

Vonage is too much of a telco-wannabe, IMHO.
 

RideFree

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Sounds like Qwurst may be initiating a hostile take-over bid for Vonnage...
She is being held hostage.
 

astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: RideFree
That has to be one of the coolest...
Hi mom. I'm in Moscow.
"But, you are calling from home."
Yeah, I just moved...

Particularly since my mother's rather slow on the uptake. We're talking about someone who spent two hours on the CS line for Apple and later Microsoft when she couldn't get her internet connection to work properly.

After those two hours on the phone, where no one could figure out what was going wrong, she hung up and tried one last time before giving up, but slipped on the mouse button and clicked the icon twice instead of once.

Unbelievable, no?

Hence my concern setting her up with SunRocket, actually, but I think even she could handle it. I'll have to test their connection at their house in Colorado when I'm out there next, as they just got broadband (parents are about to retire, so they're working on getting their retirement home together so they have someplace to go when not in Russia).
 

agrall

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Well, I just was charged for another month of Vonage, so I'm sure my port will go through any day now...
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: georgepa
Ridefree-

What's funny and at the same time outrageous is that the lady bought her adapter at a local store at high expense. She did not even get a rebate of any kind. Now she is supposed to be shipping *her* adapter, which she fully paid for, to them. Shouldn't they be sending the darn thing to them, since without it she can't use their service at all, forcing an instant cancellation?

What's more, there is that cancellation fee of $41 if you don't stay a whole year, but, from what that guy (unpleasant fellow) told us she WILL have to ship the adapter to Vonage whenever she cancels. That despite the fact that she paid full price for it at a local store, it should be HERS to do as she pleases (i.e. sell on ebay.) She feels kind of ripped off at this point. She does not have the original box, so she'll be sending the adapter in the box that the replacement unit comes in. If they have a problem with that, too bad. She is prepared to stop-payment on her credit card if they charge her.

Vonage is too much of a telco-wannabe, IMHO.

Vonage can't force her to return an adapter she paid for and IMO they shouldn't be responsible for an adapter purchased at another store. I think she should return it to the store or the manufacturer.

I had (still have?) Vonage and I purchased my adapter through them. I believe it was $40 for the package. AFAIK I don't have to send my adapter back. If they make me I'll guarantee you it makes a few circles around a microwave before it gets sent on its way.
 

stuman74

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Originally posted by: stuman74
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Well, no turning back now. Submitted to have my land lin enumber transferred over last week an djust got the email that it should be completed on 5/4/06. Hopefully everything goes off without a hitch. heh.

Do you have SunRocket? They actually sent you and e-mail with a completion date? I submitted my number transfer on 4/17. I received my adapter on 4/21. Can't receive calls on the temp number yet, but based on my previous one from SR, it will probably take me till 4/28 just for that.

Well, it looks like my number has been ported over! Less than 8 calendar days!

So, when I log into my account, I have two phone numbers. The one that I ported over (it receives calls at home fine) and the temporary one that SunRocket assigned (which still cannot recveive calls). It says that my ported (primary) number is a signature account that needs to be set up. Do I really need to do anything? My preference would be to kill the temporary number alltogether. I'm jsut a bit confused by the distinction between the two.
 

Robor

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IIRC the ported number becomes your new 'primary' number that you'd use when talking to SunRocket support.
 

stuman74

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Originally posted by: Robor
IIRC the ported number becomes your new 'primary' number that you'd use when talking to SunRocket support.

Looks like now my account has been updated to show my household account as the ported number and the signature account as the temporary.
 

stuman74

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Will I get an e-mail confirmation from SunRocket stating that the transfer is complete? It certainly seems like it is, but I just want to make sure that I don't call Vonage too soon to cancel.
 
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