SunRocket VoIP *Everybody is reporting that this is DEAD!* (Free phones, extra number, etc.)

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georgepa

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Sorry, it is nothing but a thread crap. Show me in this thread where I come off as a "Sunrocket Fanboy." It is a silly suggestion. We are discussing the pros and cons of the service, and many of us are helping others getting their service set up quite well. You, on the other hand, have never contributed a single post to the discussion, came in here with a cheesy personal attack as your very first post. That is ridiculous thread-crapping. Please contribute to the general discussion with worthwhile posts about this particular service instead, as most here have done. Otherwise your posts are simply useless.

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Those who were waiting for the 2yr./$199 deal should be looking at Father's Day and at June 20th as two possible dates. It is virtually a given for July 4th (IMO) but these 2 earlier dates seem like good bets. Viatalk is rumored to have their own version of a 2 yr. deal on the 20th, which SR will probably match on that day.

 

TheTony

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When one signs up for the promotional renewal rate, is it charged at the time the account renews, or when the customer calls in to add the renewal to their account?
 

ahodge

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I'm definitely going to try this out when it drops to $199 for 2 yrs on Father's Day (If that indeed happens). Sounds like a great deal for all the features you get.
 

SirPsycho

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I renewed for a year for $199 just before SR started these two years for $199 deals. Assuming that the deal comes up again on Father's Day (my first, BTW), what would my options be? I'm guessing I'm stuck with the one year for $199 unless I cancel and sign up again, and I assume that I'd have to wait 60 or 90 days to be able to sign up again and get the deal, which I'm not interested in doing.

I was going to switch to local phone service instead since I don't use long distance much anymore, but if I could get the other deal instead, I think I'd be an idiot not to stick with SR instead. The only other thing keeping me from sticking with SR right now is the poor support for faxing, which I'm going to need in the near future when we sell our house. Lots of documents to sign.
 

georgepa

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SirPsycho-

They may agree to convert your account to the 2 yr. duration (you have to call while the sale is going on.) However, they may not, because you renewed a little while ago. You COULD simply sign up for the new deal, then port your existing numbers over to the new account (call Carrie Barr at SR, she'll do it within 24 hrs.) then cancel the old account. No need to wait 60 or 90 days, SR will accomodate your request.

As for faxing support: It is actually quite good, at least if you have the old gizmo (not sure about the new Innomedia, which I don't have.) However, for that you have to go into your gizmo settings and make a few fax-friendly changes. Basically 3 changes: Change jitter buffer to "fixed" and set it to 100. Turn Silence Suppression to ON. Also, turn T.38 faxing off (under SIP settings.) Try these changes and attempt a fax. What is your fax hardware, btw? You may have to tweak the settings on the fax machine itself as well, such as bringing the baud rate down to the lowest possible.
 

agrall

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Originally posted by: georgepa
SirPsycho-

As for faxing support: It is actually quite good, at least if you have the old gizmo (not sure about the new Innomedia, which I don't have.) However, for that you have to go into your gizmo settings and make a few fax-friendly changes. Basically 3 changes: Change jitter buffer to "fixed" and set it to 100. Turn Silence Suppression to ON. Also, turn T.38 faxing off (under SIP settings.) Try these changes and attempt a fax. What is your fax hardware, btw? You may have to tweak the settings on the fax machine itself as well, such as bringing the baud rate down to the lowest possible.

To do this, however, I think you need the admin password for the gizmo. Anyone know what it is?
 

SirPsycho

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Originally posted by: georgepa
SirPsycho-

They may agree to convert your account to the 2 yr. duration (you have to call while the sale is going on.) However, they may not, because you renewed a little while ago. You COULD simply sign up for the new deal, then port your existing numbers over to the new account (call Carrie Barr at SR, she'll do it within 24 hrs.) then cancel the old account. No need to wait 60 or 90 days, SR will accomodate your request.

Just so I am clear, you're saying that if they won't convert my account to the two-year duration, then I should try the other method? IOW, you're certain that they'll do it, it's just a matter of how it's going to get done.

As for faxing support: It is actually quite good, at least if you have the old gizmo (not sure about the new Innomedia, which I don't have.) However, for that you have to go into your gizmo settings and make a few fax-friendly changes. Basically 3 changes: Change jitter buffer to "fixed" and set it to 100. Turn Silence Suppression to ON. Also, turn T.38 faxing off (under SIP settings.) Try these changes and attempt a fax. What is your fax hardware, btw? You may have to tweak the settings on the fax machine itself as well, such as bringing the baud rate down to the lowest possible.

I do have one of the older gizmos, as I've been with SunRocket for about 16 months. I can certainly try making the changes you suggested. I've been able to fax in the past, but it seems like it only works when I'm sending faxes in the local area. As soon as I try to fax anywhere else, it simply doesn't work. The fax machine I have is a Panasonic KX-FHD331 that I picked up for cheap at OfficeMax a while back.

I'll let you know what progress I make. Thanks for the info.
 

astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: ahodge
I'm definitely going to try this out when it drops to $199 for 2 yrs on Father's Day (If that indeed happens). Sounds like a great deal for all the features you get.

Good luck with it, and let us know how it goes!
 

georgepa

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SirPSycho-

"Just so I am clear, you're saying that if they won't convert my account to the two-year duration, then I should try the other method? IOW, you're certain that they'll do it, it's just a matter of how it's going to get done. "


Yes, they will do it that way. It is a little more hassle on your part, as you have to ask for your numbers to be transferred to the new account, but if you contact Carrie Barr at 703-394-4188 after the fact, she'll take care of it for you right away. Then cancel your "old" account and they'll send you any prorated refund you are entitled to.
 

SirPsycho

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Originally posted by: georgepa
SirPSycho-

"Just so I am clear, you're saying that if they won't convert my account to the two-year duration, then I should try the other method? IOW, you're certain that they'll do it, it's just a matter of how it's going to get done. "


Yes, they will do it that way. It is a little more hassle on your part, as you have to ask for your numbers to be transferred to the new account, but if you contact Carrie Barr at 703-394-4188 after the fact, she'll take care of it for you right away. Then cancel your "old" account and they'll send you any prorated refund you are entitled to.

That's okay. It would be worth the hassle to save a hundred dollars. Do you think they would let me keep my old gizmo, since you seemed to think that it might work better for faxing?

Thanks again for the info. I'll be sure to check their website on Sunday.
 

Pulsar

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I'm going to open this post and update it with my order status. I'm doing this to (hopefully) help out folks who are on the edge of pulling the trigger but just aren't sure - I tried to do research but it seems like all the voip review websites are filled with spammers paid by companies to artificially pump up the ratings or to shoot them down. As I'm a born skeptic, maybe my experience will help.... anyway:

My connection is a 4 megabit down, 1 megabit up connection provided by Spint Broad BAnd Direct. After looking at a bunch of voip companies, I decided to give Sunrocket a try because:

1. Their servers are east coast located and I generally ping under 50ms to them. I also spent a couple days doing continual pings and traceroutes and determined that the packet loss isn't bad at all.
2. Their price point is decent.
3. There is a reasonable amount of feedback on the net so that I'm confident that at least they won't take my money and run, even if their customer service is suspect.

Timeline:
-6/8 Placed an order for the $199 for a year package. The website was easy to use. It explained I can port my permanent number over later (after I confirm that this thing is going to work for me), so I pulled the trigger.
-6/8 Received email confirmation.
-6/13 Received email confirmation that my equipment has shipped. It was shipped UPS and I have my tracking number.
-6/14 Out of curiosity I called my new phone number, and it still comes back as disconnected. I wonder at what point it will be "connected" to my voicemail.
-6/14 Thanks Agrall - I just went into the configuration (through the website) and it's been recording calls since the day I signed up. I configured my voicemail. It took about 2 seconds. Equipment is due tomorrow according to UPS.
-6/15 I received my "gizmo". I did NOT receive a free phone. I should have received the free phone... that's a little irritating. I just checked, and they still have the advertisement on their web page, so I'm emailing them to find out where it is.

Anyway, I plugged in the gizmo through my router, and got an instant voip light. Plugged in my office cordless phone, and immediately got a dial tone. Dialed out, no problem. Sounds pretty darn good too. Had someone else dial in and I had no issue. Started up a download from download.com and the person on the other end said "Why are you breaking up so bad". I think I can fix that through router QOS. I'm also going to check and see if setting the gizmo up ahead of my router hurts my bandwidth at all.

Right now I'm happy - I'll come back later and update #1 if I can fix the choppiness when downloading and #2 how rapidly customer service gets back to me about where my free phone is.
-6/16 Ok. I'm beginning to see the opportunity here for someone to get really ticked off about sunrocket IF they don't have some networking skill. My phone sounded great when not downloading, but even the smallest download (20kB/s) would kill it it, as would the smallest upload. I would much rather the gizmo be behind my router, so I set to work. First, I had to get the tcp/ip address of the gizmo. Without basic networking knowledge - I'd be up a creek here. I got it by logging into the router and checking the ip assigned to the gizmo port. Then I enabled QOS on my router and set the gizmo to high priority and every other port to low. No change. Rebooted the router, no change. Put the gizmo in the DMZ zone. No change. Turned off the router's built in firewall - no change.

Ok, so maybe my router's QOS just isn't very good. So now goes the trial of putting the gizmo in front of the router and using the gizmo's built in QOS. I'd noticed before that you actually do need to follow the suggested power on procedure - power on the device connected to the internet, then work your way back to the computer powering each on after a minute or so. So I moved the gizmo outside my router, reconnected everything, and tried to access the gizmo. No go. My router was blocking my attempts. Attempted a telnet session that would connect but wouldn't accept the login/password. So, I pulled the gizmo back inside the router, accessed it via the browser, logged in, and set QOS in the upload and download banks to the suggested maxes that I see on my speed tests. Put it back outside, and turned everything back on.

It finally appeared to work without choppiness, even when I was pretty heavy on the downloads. The next step is to unhook my outside phone and try to wire up whole house service through the inside wiring. That will probably take me a week to get around to.

-6/16 Oh really..... I just received an email stating I signed up during their "3 free month" promotion, not the "free phone" promotion. Interesting then that as I stated, up till yesterday they still had the "free phone" promotion going. The invoice I have states 3 free months - but I got that on the 14th and I signed up on the 8th. This isn't a deal breaker - but I didn't get what I signed up for and that is VERY annoying.

-6/17 My wife started really complaining about voice quality when I was seeding torrents today. Back to work. I went back through the whole deal again - the QoS on my router is crap. If you read through voip forums, you'll find that the only router worth a damn that's inexpensive and has worthwhile QoS is a linksys model, and you have to update it with 3rd party software to make it work. I bought Sunrocket because it's cheap - I'm not going to blow money on a router. So, back to playing with the gizmo. It's a bit scary that the recommendation from Sunrocket is to put the gizmo in front of the router - users aren't allowed to change the gizmo password, and in front of the router it's wide open to the net. Alot of people have issues with that. But, the gizmo DOES have QoS that actually works, so that's what I had to do. Multiple tests confirm that Sunrocket voip uses about 90kb, but I've gotten much clearer service by reserving 150. Adjusting the QoS until I had clear calls was a pain, but it works fine now. Maybe tomorrow I'll wire it to the house.

-6/18 Test again today with full download speed - the QoS on the gizmo does work. It's a little heavy handed on cutting the bandwidth, but I want the calls to be clear so i can accept that. Today I unplugged my house from POT's and simply plugged the gizmo into the wiring. Instant dial tone throughout the house. My wife is using it upstairs to call right now. I also requested our POTs number be transferred. If we run into any problems forward I'll post a bit more, but right now I'm happy with Sunrocket. *DISCLAIMER* I have not had to deal with customer service, and that seems to be the largest complaint about sunrocket.

-6/21 Final update - on Fathers day I saw the 199/2 year deal and called Sunrocket customer service. They had no issue updating me to the cheaper plan. This is probably the last I'll post unless something goes screwy. For now, I'd say that Sunrocket appears to offer a good price for a good product, with shoddy customer service. For do-it-yourself folks, this is a good deal.
 

astrosfan90

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Interesting stuff LsDPulsar.

IIRC, it'll take you anywhere from a few minutes to a few days after you set up your line at your house to get incoming calls, but you should be able to call out immediately. When I signed up a year or so ago, I got my inbound immediately.
 

agrall

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Originally posted by: LsDPulsar
-6/14 Out of curiosity I called my new phone number, and it still comes back as disconnected. I wonder at what point it will be "connected" to my voicemail.

Go to your account on the sunrocket webpage. You need to activate your voicemail before it will work.
 

TheTurk

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You'll who signed up for SR scam beacuse of a concerned member's advice, watch out!!

I just freed myself from SR, and cannot be happy more. 3 months of nightmare is over...
This is the biggest scam this forum ever faced. Watch out..
 

hbsalesinc

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I've been very happy with this "scam" for about 4 months now. For about 8 dollars a month (2 year $199) I couldn't be happier.

I know there are some who have issues with the service, but I consider it the norm for VOIP services.

With RoadRunner premium and SunRocket, I have had great call quality unless I have been downloading via a torrent. Sorry for other's misfortune.
 

Pinan

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I signed up last month on the 2 for 1 and have had no problems so far. In and out calls worked immediately, as well as faxing. Overall, it's great. My best friend signed up shortly after I did and has also been pleased.

Btw. sunrocketforum.com is great. Some of the posters (like Stewart) answer many questions there. Lots of help is offered.

My 2 cents.
 

Jlensbo

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Originally posted by: TheTurk
You'll who signed up for SR scam beacuse of a concerned member's advice, watch out!!

I just freed myself from SR, and cannot be happy more. 3 months of nightmare is over...
This is the biggest scam this forum ever faced. Watch out..

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Can you be more precise? I've had SR for 15 months now and think that it's the greatest thing since the paper towel!
 

georgepa

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jlensbo-

"Can you be more precise? I've had SR for 15 months now and think that it's the greatest thing since the paper towel!"

Come on. Nothing beats toilet paper. I can do without wiping my face for a while, but without toilet tissue? I dunno.....
 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: georgepa
jlensbo-

"Can you be more precise? I've had SR for 15 months now and think that it's the greatest thing since the paper towel!"

Come on. Nothing beats toilet paper. I can do without wiping my face for a while, but without toilet tissue? I dunno.....
jlens is actually quite correct.
After you wipe your face with the paper towel...can you come up with a secondary use for the towel?
Now apply the logic in the other direction...see, it just doesn't work for me.

 

laketrout

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Originally posted by: Pinan
I signed up last month on the 2 for 1 and have had no problems so far. In and out calls worked immediately, as well as faxing. Overall, it's great. My best friend signed up shortly after I did and has also been pleased.

Btw. sunrocketforum.com is great. Some of the posters (like Stewart) answer many questions there. Lots of help is offered.

My 2 cents.


Yeah, that is a good place to go for questions, Pinan...
See and thats the thing...no matter what service or product you buy, there are going to be people who don't like it. Overall though, SunRocket seems to be doing well by their customers, new and old....
Hey- I've been pleased! Those of you that are a little newer to this particular topic..I've had SunRocket for about a year and a half. Its been a good ride so far.
 

ahodge

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Only extended for referrals. So, you'd need to know someone's # that already has Sunrocket. PM me and I'll give you my number if you want to get in on the deal. I'm sure there are a bunch of other Sunrocket subscribers on this thread that would give you their # as well.
 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: ahodge
Only extended for referrals. So, you'd need to know someone's # that already has Sunrocket. PM me and I'll give you my number if you want to get in on the deal. I'm sure there are a bunch of other Sunrocket subscribers on this thread that would give you their # as well.
Not true!
There isn't even a place on the application form for a referral. You have to verbally tell them that it is a referral and that is not a requirement for the deal.

Do not hijack this thread!
 
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