Supboena warning from ISP following DMCA demand for $200

[Saint Nick]

Router logs?

 

[KeithP]

Wireless wide open = can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt it was you.

I'd like to see him prove his wifi was open at the time of the alleged infringement. Better start scrubbing that hard drive.

-KeithP

 

[FoBoT]

this is why you run your own dns server and archive all the logs, forever

 

[fixbsod]

Well for all those wondering why my wifi was open it's because I have a fon wireless router and so I HAVE to share to use the wireless part. And customers do have to pay, and I'm sure also click on terms & conditions that they agree not to do bad stuff. I do have logs showing numerous day passes sold during the period they are looking at:

4/23/2012 3:16 1 Day Pass
4/22/2012 3:10 1 Day Pass
4/21/2012 16:32 Access bundle 1 hour
4/21/2012 6:04 Access bundle 1 hour
4/21/2012 4:24 Access bundle 1 hour
4/20/2012 3:28 1 Day Pass
4/19/2012 21:08 Access bundle 1 hour
4/16/2012 3:26 1 Day Pass
4/14/2012 3:12 1 Day Pass
4/11/2012 0:43 Access bundle 1 hour
4/9/2012 1:50 1 Day Pass
4/8/2012 1:42 1 Day Pass
4/5/2012 5:16 1 Day Pass
4/4/2012 18:26 Access bundle 1 hour
4/1/2012 6:58 1 Day Pass
3/30/2012 7:01 Access bundle 1 hour
....
ad nauseum

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Aren't you not responsible since you are providing the pipe only?

 

[mmntech]

As nice a neighbour as you seem to be, I personally would be very worried about someone using my open wifi to download kiddie porn or something that would go beyond a fine.

This. It has happened. They don't even have to be your neighbours. Anybody could drive by and use any close signal for nefarious deeds. If you're into tech enough to be reading Anandtech, you should know enough to lock your wifi down. No good deed goes unpunished.

 

[videogames101]

If he's responsible for the shit users downloaded while paying to use his pipe than Charter is responsible for what the OP sends over their pipes. Forward the letter to Charter, if not for a few laughs.

Then again most judges don't know what an IP is. :hmm:

 

[fixbsod]

Exactly !

If he's responsible for the shit users downloaded while paying to use his pipe than Charter is responsible for what the OP sends over their pipes. Forward the letter to Charter, if not for a few laughs.

Then again most judges don't know what an IP is. :hmm:

 

[FoBoT]

just be glad you aren't sitting in jail on child p0rn charges and pay the price you scofflaw


there is really no chance anyone connected with this could find this thread on the interwebz and use it against you, no worries mate

 

[Lifted]

just be glad you aren't sitting in jail on child p0rn charges and pay the price you scofflaw

This.

CP Productions INC

 

[BladeVenom]

Judge Rules IP Addresses Are Insufficient Evidence To Identify Pirates

 

[lxskllr]

See this...

https://houstonlawyer.wordpress.com...the-cp-productions-inc-lawsuit-now-dismissed/

I say fuck 'em. Make them prove you infringed on their copyright.

 

[Corporate Thug]

I'm with this guy. Plus, the burden of proof ISN'T on me. :thumbsup:

The burden of proof isn't on you to provide some sort of objective back up for a statement you made? Gotcha.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Wireless wide open = can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt it was you. Granted this is Civil so it is more based on who paid the judge more in "donations."

You recognize it's a civil case yet you still say the burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt...do not understand...

 

[Corporate Thug]

Well for all those wondering why my wifi was open it's because I have a fon wireless router and so I HAVE to share to use the wireless part. And customers do have to pay, and I'm sure also click on terms & conditions that they agree not to do bad stuff. I do have logs showing numerous day passes sold during the period they are looking at:

4/23/2012 3:16 1 Day Pass
4/22/2012 3:10 1 Day Pass
4/21/2012 16:32 Access bundle 1 hour
4/21/2012 6:04 Access bundle 1 hour
4/21/2012 4:24 Access bundle 1 hour
4/20/2012 3:28 1 Day Pass
4/19/2012 21:08 Access bundle 1 hour
4/16/2012 3:26 1 Day Pass
4/14/2012 3:12 1 Day Pass
4/11/2012 0:43 Access bundle 1 hour
4/9/2012 1:50 1 Day Pass
4/8/2012 1:42 1 Day Pass
4/5/2012 5:16 1 Day Pass
4/4/2012 18:26 Access bundle 1 hour
4/1/2012 6:58 1 Day Pass
3/30/2012 7:01 Access bundle 1 hour
....
ad nauseum

dude, get rid of the FON stuff...not worth the hassle over shit like this. In the mean time, I would ignore unless/until you are served with legal papers.

 

[Hugo Drax]

No matter what it's going to cost you a minimum of 5 grand to fight it in court.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I'd probably call my ISP to confirm, then, go to court. You shouldn't be held liable for the actions of other people. Just because you did something stupid (open wifi) doesn't mean that you are responsible for what other people did using your network connection.

Still gonna cost him, 5k when it's all done.

 

[senseamp]

Did the ISP respond to the subpoena and disclose your identity?

 

[OCGuy]

If I can give you one nugget of info it is this: When the lights go off at 8:00PM in your new housing unit, shit your pants. Seriously. The odds of someone raw-dogging your man-box are greatly reduced. It is still > 0, but not by much.

 

[davmat787]

Wouldn't FON be able to provide some assistance on this? Perhaps they have a legal dept. that is familiar with this scenario, or can tell you about the Terms & Conditions a user has to accept?

 

[railer]

Most of the response in here are sarcastic and unhelpful. The OP is obviously worried, why the need to add stupid commentary on top of that?

Anyway....this sounds like a scam to me. I'd ignore it completely were I the OP.

I found this on Google:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...tlawyers-p2p-attorney-gets-lawsuit-tossed.ars

 

[JEDIYoda]

Then again most judges don't know what an IP is.

-- you have no clue.....

 

[videogames101]

-- you have no clue.....

Oh yeah? Great thing about opinions you know.

 

[BladeVenom]

EFF.org is probably the place to go for answers.
https://www.eff.org/pages/frequently-asked-questions-subpoena-targets

 

[Tim]

If I can give you one nugget of info it is this: When the lights go off at 8:00PM in your new housing unit, shit your pants. Seriously. The odds of someone raw-dogging your man-box are greatly reduced. It is still > 0, but not by much.

wtf?