**Super Bowl LI ** Brady v Ryan - Who Ya Be Takin'?

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KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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Actually, and this isn't directed at you, this is nothing more than a garbage storyline to fill 2 weeks of dead air before the game begins. What makes the media so clever, is that they got this started after Brady's suspension was announced to give themselves something to sell during the 2 weeks before the Superbowl.

Its Goodell's job to hand the trophy to the winner. If anything, he'd be more than happy that Kraft, his alleged homeboy, gets another trophy.

Of course it is, still doesn't take away that i'd like to see Goodell hand them the trophy.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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Think it could down to whoever has the football last. I think NE's D can slow down the Falcons and don't think the Falcons D can slow down the Pats.

A few quick facts:
The last time NE went to Houston for the SB, they led the league in scoring defense and won. They led the league in scoring defense this year.
11 of the last 12 SB that wore white won the SB and I believe the last 5 SBs, the team that wore white won. NE is wearing white this year and 2-1 when wearing white in the SB.
NE is 16-0 when Dion Lewis plays
 

Retro Rob

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Of course it is, still doesn't take away that i'd like to see Goodell hand them the trophy.

Glad we agree. But on a serious note about Goodell and Brady, if anyone thinks Goodell is somehow hoping he doesn't have to hand Brady and Kraft the trophy is kidding themselves. Him not showing up to the NE Steelers game (I believe that's the game) only added to it.

This will prove to be a ratings bonanza for that reason alone. I'm betting he and Kraft are in some room hi-fiving because of how the media is being whored out over this whole thing, and fans to boot.

Locally, if you've been listening to Valenti ad Foster, some clowns are actually buying into it hook line and sinker.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Definitely prefer Atlanta, but watching Goodel hand that trophy to Brady would be pretty damn sweet. Good thing is that I won't be angry with either result.
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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Glad we agree. But on a serious note about Goodell and Brady, if anyone thinks Goodell is somehow hoping he doesn't have to hand Brady and Kraft the trophy is kidding themselves. Him not showing up to the NE Steelers game (I believe that's the game) only added to it.

This will prove to be a ratings bonanza for that reason alone. I'm betting he and Kraft are in some room hi-fiving because of how the media is being whored out over this whole thing, and fans to boot.

Locally, if you've been listening to Valenti ad Foster, some clowns are actually buying into it hook line and sinker.
Oh boy, some of the bone heads that call into that show are unbelievably stupid but it does draw ratings
 

Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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Definitely prefer Atlanta, but watching Goodel hand that trophy to Brady would be pretty damn sweet. Good thing is that I won't be angry with either result.

Agree, given I've had the Falcons as my "home" team since their inception.

As for the game, it'll probably be very even.

Consider TD receptions. Everyone is slurping up the Pats and their receivers and their defense, saying ATL better have more than Jones or the Pats will eat them up.

Well, ATL did have 13 receivers catch TD passes this year (reg. season), while the Pats had 10. 10 of ATL's receivers caught multiple TD passes; Pats had 7. Essentially, ATL's passing attack is at least as diversified as the Pats, if not a tad wider.

On defense, interestingly ATL and the Pats are very similar. Exactly the same number of sacks, 34 each, with almost exactly the same number of yards lost via sack, ATL 228, Pats 227.

But ATL had 45 tackles for loss while the Pats had 30.

In passes defended, ATL had 85 passes defended with 12 interceptions; Pats had 70 and 13 respectively. Oh, and ATL returned 3 of those interceptions for TD, Pats did not return a single interception for TD.

ATL forced 17 fumbles and recovered 10; the Pats were 19 and 10, respectively. ATL did return 2 of those fumbles for TD, and again, the Pats returned none for TD.

You can keep looking at stats all day, they end up quite similar for both teams, at least from what I can see.

It may be a good game, I hope it is. I'll pull for ATL out of being a homer in this case, but will be completely ready for the letdown at the end, which would be typical of an ATL team, frankly. I am hoping against hope that Quinn as head coach is finally making some progress in moving ATL towards being a competitive team. Does look like he's made some positive impact.
 

brainhulk

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Julio gets a shot of corticosteroid and morphine pregame. Julio then draws double teams. Matty Ice(lol) drops uncontested dimes to Sanu, Gabriel, & Hooper. Freeman, and Coleman run it down their throat and leak out behind Julio all day.

ATL ftw
 

angminas

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Both QBs will be under pressure all day long. Patriots will try to run the ball as much as possible to keep Ryan off the field. Brady will dink and dunk, but a few long plays will set up scores. Patriots D will give up yards but not touchdowns. Patriots 20, Falcons 16.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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I couldn't possibly care less but I'd kind of like to see the Patriots win... even though I hate them. I just don't give a fuck about the Falcons so I can't see rooting for them. I'm kind of without team at the moment. It's hard rooting for the Bills (I know, they didn't even make the playoffs) because they've sucked so bad for so long.

Yeah, go Patriots... I guess... woot...
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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I've got no dog in this fight either, but FUCK Bill Bellicheat and his Cheatriots.

As much as I dislike Matty Ice, I hope they smear the Cheatriots.
 

MrSquished

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Jan 14, 2013
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I've got no dog in this fight either, but FUCK Bill Bellicheat and his Cheatriots.

As much as I dislike Matty Ice, I hope they smear the Cheatriots.

I was always anti-Patriot for various reasons including the scandals. But I always admired Brady from afar. The guy is as clutch as you can get and probably the GOAT.

As a Giants fan I wished we held on to Belichik when we had him.

But Matty Ice bugs me since way back when. So we shall see.
 

Capt Caveman

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Jan 30, 2005
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I've got no dog in this fight either, but FUCK Bill Bellicheat and his Cheatriots.

As much as I dislike Matty Ice, I hope they smear the Cheatriots.

Good to see New England beat San Francisco, Denver and Pittsburgh this year, all teams caught cheating.

And the Falcons won't be playing at home and won't be able to cheat on Sunday.
 
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Chaotic42

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Chaotic42 was the only one to predict the Patriots playing in the Super Bowl. Nobody picked the Falcons.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/the-atot-2016-17-season-nfl-predictions-thread.2484829/

Deeko had Steelers Seahawks.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/deekos-2016-nfl-predictions.2485706/

I think the Patriots win this one but I'd just like to see a good game regardless of who wins.

Hah. I forgot about that thread. I even joked that Atlanta might win it all. It's amazing that they looked so bad in the preseason and then just started rocking people.
 

Ken g6

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Good to see New England beat San Francisco, Denver and Pittsburgh this year, all teams caught cheating.
How's that, now? I only recall New England cheating. (And San Diego against Denver, but that was a year or two ago.)
 

Capt Caveman

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Jan 30, 2005
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How's that, now? I only recall New England cheating. (And San Diego against Denver, but that was a year or two ago.)

I'm guessing you haven't been following the NFL for very long. Falcons were caught just last year, fined and lost a draft pick. Pittsburgh this year by the Giants for deflated footballs. And SF and Denver for cheating the salary cap multiple times to help their teams to win the SB, fined and Denver lost a draft. You could always use google too.
 

thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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How's that, now? I only recall New England cheating. (And San Diego against Denver, but that was a year or two ago.)
An employee of Atlanta was piping in crow noise in 2013 and 2014 seasons. Unlike when New England repeatedly cheated though, Atlanta cooperated, expressed disappointment in the actions of the employee, fired him, and accepted their fate. New England lied, obstructed, and refused to admit their regular wrongdoing.


Also, game prediction 34-20 Falcons. Atlanta will take a 24-7 lead into the locker room at half time. Pats will score 10 of their last 13 pts with 8 or less minutes left in the game. Matt Schaub will take snaps on the Falcons final 2 drives because of the lead.
 
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vi edit

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I haven't seen a game by either team all year. This is as close to uninterested in the NFL as I've ever been. I say Patriots win 27-20.
 

Ken g6

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I'm guessing you haven't been following the NFL for very long. Falcons were caught just last year, fined and lost a draft pick. Pittsburgh this year by the Giants for deflated footballs. And SF and Denver for cheating the salary cap multiple times to help their teams to win the SB, fined and Denver lost a draft. You could always use google too.

http://yourteamcheats.com/DEN

Huh. I don't see any serious, verified team cheat within the past 5 years for Denver. (PED cheats are individuals, and PM's is from a highly questionable source.) I didn't know about the spy recording incident.
 

Capt Caveman

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Jan 30, 2005
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http://yourteamcheats.com/DEN

Huh. I don't see any serious, verified team cheat within the past 5 years for Denver. (PED cheats are individuals, and PM's is from a highly questionable source.) I didn't know about the spy recording incident.

You could scroll down a little further to see them getting caught cheating the salary cap during their Elway SB days and getting fined and losing a draft pick. Should brush up on your history.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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An employee of Atlanta was piping in crow noise in 2013 and 2014 seasons. Unlike when New England repeatedly cheated though, Atlanta cooperated, expressed disappointment in the actions of the employee, fired him, and accepted their fate. New England lied, obstructed, and refused to admit their regular wrongdoing.


Also, game prediction 34-20 Falcons. Atlanta will take a 24-7 lead into the locker room at half time. Pats will score 10 of their last 13 pts with 8 or less minutes left in the game. Matt Schaub will take snaps on the Falcons final 2 drives because of the lead.

Proof to this? If you're talking about the cell phone, Brady didn't have to provide the phone as long as he gave them log history.

Unless Atlanta can provide pressure up the middle which they've shown they can't, I can see Brady picking apart the Falcons D. Atlanta will be forced to play catch up the whole game.
 

thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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You could scroll down a little further to see them getting caught cheating the salary cap during their Elway SB days and getting fined and losing a draft pick. Should brush up on your history.
It's funny talking about cheating the salary cap when the Patriots do things like pay a for profit company owned by Brady for "services" as a way to circumvent the salary cap. And that's not even mentioned on that site even though it's one of the most blatantly obvious ways to circumvent the salary cap out there.



EDIT: This was my Lifer post!
 
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Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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I've got no dog in this fight either, but FUCK Bill Bellicheat and his Cheatriots.

As much as I dislike Matty Ice, I hope they smear the Cheatriots.

i really do find it comical that everyone calls them cheaters for doing the same things as ever other team in the league
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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surprised the pats are only +3?

I put $1000 down on no safety.
and $1000 on Brady being intercepted b4 throwing a touchdown.

also, pats no touchdown in the 4th Q seems interesting...
 
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