**Super Bowl LI ** Brady v Ryan - Who Ya Be Takin'?

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JulesMaximus

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As much as I dislike the Patriots I was pulling for them to win this one because I like Tom Brady and I have no particular love for the Falcons. Anyway, what an amazing game! So glad I stuck with it because it looked like it was going to be a complete blowout.

Oh, and I didn't have anything to drink either. Just watched the game at home with my wife and son. Good times.
 

MongGrel

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So is Brady automatically the greatest ever now?
I still think Favre, Montana, Marino, or Manning, and a few others might have been better QBs IMHO, but the team makeup in general amounts to a lot.

Brady obviously isn't a hack, but doubt he is the greatest.
 
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I still think Favre, Montana, Marino, or Manning might have been better QBs IMHO, but the team makeup in general amounts to a lot.

Brady obviously isn't a hack, but doubt he is the greatest.
True, but then again everyone but the NE Patriots had a four game handicap and STILL LOST.
 

MongGrel

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True, but then again everyone but the NE Patriots had a four game handicap and STILL LOST.

The Pats have always had a solid overall team, why the Buccs where kicking butt around 2000 when Dungy was assembling things.

The only reason Chucky won that Super Bowl was because of what he inherited.

Why the Colts were solid with Manning when he moved up to Indy.

I'm not a huge Belichick fan, but he seems to know how to put a solid team together.
 

zerocool84

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I still think Favre, Montana, Marino, or Manning, and a few others might have been better QBs IMHO, but the team makeup in general amounts to a lot.

Brady obviously isn't a hack, but doubt he is the greatest.
It's hard to not call him the greatest now. He's done more than literally every other QB
 

Miramonti

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You forgot that Ryan has a history of choking and his stupidity in the 4th gave the game away. This was easily the biggest choke in SB history. I'm apparently the only one who noticed him leaving 15+ seconds on the play clock on nearly every snap in the 4th. That alone probably cost them he game.
I didn't notice that, but no doubt that's a critical fvck up if true. Did Ryan choke beyond that? He was 17/23...wtf was the offensive coordinator doing - he's got the best receiver in the league! Jones was 4/87 yards, catching all 4 attempts. Meanwhile, Brady threw the ball 62 times, completed 42!
 
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The Pats have always had a solid overall team, why the Buccs where kicking butt around 2000 when Dungy was assembling things.

The only reason Chucky won that Super Bowl was because of what he inherited.

Why the Colts were solid with Manning when he moved up to Indy.

Be careful with that "always". I remember the Grogan years.
 
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smackababy

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It's hard to not call him the greatest now. He's done more than literally every other QB
Rings aren't exactly a measure of greatness in team sports. Montana nearly took KC to what would be his 5th SB (though I don't think he would have beaten Dallas). Brady is certainly in the argument. He has some stellar stats, not the best though.

Where is Sp33dDemon to come in and give us some "joe blow from this random website" number metrics to show one or the other as being the best?
 

MongGrel

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Atlanta is done for at least the next decade. They won't come back from this anytime soon.

You seem to not understand how the NFL works to begin with, you think the team just disintergrates next year ?

 

Capt Caveman

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fwiw - for the 26 game in a row, NE didn't allow a running back to go over 80 yds. The team wearing white has now won 12 out of the last 13 Super bowls. Number 1 Offense loses again to the Number 1 Defense. And the MVP of the league loses again.
 

holden j caufield

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I didn't notice that, but no doubt that's a critical fvck up if true. Did Ryan choke beyond that? He was 17/23...wtf was the offensive coordinator doing - he's got the best receiver in the league! Jones was 4/87 yards, catching all 4 attempts. Meanwhile, Brady threw the ball 62 times, completed 42!

did ryan make the call to throw on the 20 yard line when they were up by 8 points with a few minutes to go. A chip shot field goal from there wins it and running it there winds down the clock. Whoever decided to throw it and chance a sack, , holding, tougher field goal or INT is a moron that lost them the game. That's a ton of cons for throwing in that situation.

I also can't believe Brady would chance the INT from the 2 yard line. I know they tried to trick them but it's a bad gamble that they should realize from 2 years ago
 
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