**Super Bowl LI ** Brady v Ryan - Who Ya Be Takin'?

[manly]

You seem to not understand how the NFL works to begin with, you think the team just disintergrates next year ?

Look at the history of SB losers in the free agency era, it's not pretty.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Look at the history of SB losers in the free agency era, it's not pretty.

Falcons also lose Shanahan, their offensive coordinator. But Atlanta has a lot of young players at RB and Defense so they're locked up for a few more years.

 

[Childs]

You seem to not understand how the NFL works to begin with, you think the team just disintergrates next year ?

They're done. Its one thing to just get blown out, but giving the game away kills the franchise for awhile. And they were already known as habitual chokers. Any time they lose any sort of lead they'll have Nam-like flashbacks and turtle up. Maybe they can aspire to be this generations Bills, Broncos, Vikings, etc, that choke in the Super Bowl a bunch of times, but I think its more likely the team will implode until Quinn and Ryan are gone.

 

[BUTCH1]

I didn't notice that, but no doubt that's a critical fvck up if true. Did Ryan choke beyond that? He was 17/23...wtf was the offensive coordinator doing - he's got the best receiver in the league! Jones was 4/87 yards, catching all 4 attempts. Meanwhile, Brady threw the ball 62 times, completed 42!

I thought the biggest mistake by Atlanta was calling for a pass that turned into a sack that knocked them out of FG range.

 

[BUTCH1]

They're done. Its one thing to just get blown out, but giving the game away kills the franchise for awhile. And they were already known as habitual chokers. Any time they lose any sort of lead they'll have Nam-like flashbacks and turtle up. Maybe they can aspire to be this generations Bills, Broncos, Vikings, etc, that choke in the Super Bowl a bunch of times, but I think its more likely the team will implode until Quinn and Ryan are gone.

Thing is Ryan isn't calling the plays, only 4 throws to JJ and he amazed as expected, Ryan didn't throw any picks either, piss-poor job by the offensive Co calling plays.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I thought the biggest mistake by Atlanta was calling for a pass that turned into a sack that knocked them out of FG range.

And the pass play before that which led to a hold and losing another 10 yards. Two runs and a FG and the game is out of reach b/c there's not enough time.

 

[MrSquished]

Kinda used to dislike the patriots, definitely rooted against them in the SB when my Giants were playing them, but now I just grudgingly respect the hell out of them. To be down by 25 freakin points with like 2 minutes to go in the 3rd and to have the discipline to stay focused and execute not only a ton of plays but many do or die ones. Each 2 point conversion was do or die. I think they went for it on fourth down once as well. Nerves of fucking steel. As a fan of football you just have to admire that kind of play. It's just unparalleled consistency by Brady and Belichick.

 

[Phokus]

LMAO, Goodell can suck my dick: http://streamable.com/7n7v9

 

[Capt Caveman]

Awesome!!! I think I've seen James White be interviewed on 7 different channels already. Amazing game by him!!!

 

[MongGrel]

Falcons also lose Shanahan, their offensive coordinator. But Atlanta has a lot of young players at RB and Defense so they're locked up for a few more years.

I'll admit I do not follow the NFL much at all the last decade or so, I mentioned that in another thread the other day.

Might have been in the first couple of pages of this one.

 

[smackababy]

Look at the history of SB losers in the free agency era, it's not pretty.

Buffalo Bills lost 4 times in a row! Decent to make it 4 consecutive SBs.

 

[Childs]

Thing is Ryan isn't calling the plays, only 4 throws to JJ and he amazed as expected, Ryan didn't throw any picks either, piss-poor job by the offensive Co calling plays.

Teams that lose close in a championship usually dont come back all. If they do, they get blown out worse than before. Once things go wrong they just fall apart. Its a weird thing, but it persists through player and coaching changes until almost everyone associated with that loss is gone. The only exception I can think of in recent memory in any sport is the Spurs.

Its better to be blown out than lose close. Worse is to choke. If they were to shake this off it would be remarkable. Anyways, who knows, I just might be hating a little extra because its still such an unbelievable way to lose. Imagine how its going to be tomorrow when all the talking heads get involved.

 

[MongGrel]

Buffalo Bills lost 4 times in a row! Decent to make it 4 consecutive SBs.

My wife was a Bills fan.

I won many Super Bowl bets off her hehe.

Somehow I never was paid in cash.

 

[Retro Rob]

They're done. Its one thing to just get blown out, but giving the game away kills the franchise for awhile. And they were already known as habitual chokers. Any time they lose any sort of lead they'll have Nam-like flashbacks and turtle up. Maybe they can aspire to be this generations Bills, Broncos, Vikings, etc, that choke in the Super Bowl a bunch of times, but I think its more likely the team will implode until Quinn and Ryan are gone.

I'm pretty sure I heard Joe Buck mention how the Falcons sidelines got quiet when the score was 20-28. They clearly thought they had this one early. History was on their side, as well as the fact that they tend to blow teams out whom they have huge leads on.

Defense was winded, but that's what good teams do to defenses.

 

[MrSquished]

Teams that lose close in a championship usually dont come back all. If they do, they get blown out worse than before. Once things go wrong they just fall apart. Its a weird thing, but it persists through player and coaching changes until almost everyone associated with that loss is gone. The only exception I can think of in recent memory in any sport is the Spurs.

The Bills lost to the Giants by just 1 point and the Bills went back to the big game the next 3 years. But all their next losses were by larger numbers.

 

[smackababy]

Teams that lose close in a championship usually dont come back all. If they do, they get blown out worse than before. Once things go wrong they just fall apart. Its a weird thing, but it persists through player and coaching changes until almost everyone associated with that loss is gone. The only exception I can think of in recent memory in any sport is the Spurs.

Plus, apart from big name players, a lot of personnel changes happen from season to season. It's not like the 2016 Atlanta Falcons are going to be the 2017 Atlanta Falcons. Sure, the stars may remain (even that isn't a guarantee), but a lot of the special teams guys, the no name rotation guys, etc are going to be replaced.

Also, I would say the Cavs are the most recent example. The finals they lost weren't "close" in terms of the series, but they were in the games themselves.

 

[Childs]

The Bills lost to the Giants by just 1 point and the Bills went back to the big game the next 3 years. But all their next losses were by larger numbers.

I believe its was the same with the Vikings and Broncos. I think I remember seeing a sports doc on it or something on the multiple Super Bowl losers. I remember player interviews where they said the first sign of adversity they just started to think here we go again and mentally checked out. hehe...I was convinced Elway would never win because he was a multiple time Super Bowl loser, and he eventually did, but I think he was the only one left on from the SB loser teams.

 

[MrSquished]

I still think Favre, Montana, Marino, or Manning, and a few others might have been better QBs IMHO, but the team makeup in general amounts to a lot.

Brady obviously isn't a hack, but doubt he is the greatest.

He is definitely the most clutch of all time in the playoffs. Just not when playing the Giants. He's been to 7 freaking Super Bowls. SEVEN. WTF.

Aaron Rodgers can make sicker throws but Tom Brady wins big games more than anyone.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Someone stole Brady's game jersey, pretty shitty thing to do.

 

[Childs]

Also, I would say the Cavs are the most recent example. The finals they lost weren't "close" in terms of the series, but they were in the games themselves.

Yeah, I thought of the Cavs but the first series wasn't really that close. It was 4-2, and the last couple games were never in doubt. And they had the fallback that they were missing players. But in that line of thinking I think the Warriors will have a hard time in the playoffs this year, even though they look great now. They know for certain a team can come back on them, and they might be tempted to give into it if it starts to happen. But they had some built in excuses too, with the suspension and injuries.

The Falcons have no excuses though. The Pats even gifted them two scores and they still couldn't close it out. I dont know how you get over that.

 

[smackababy]

Someone stole Brady's game jersey, pretty shitty thing to do.

Oh no, Tom Brady won't have some keepsake to remember that he is Tom fucking Brady and was in the game...

It's worth more as a collector item anyway, sort of like Jordan's Flu Game shoes.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Someone stole Brady's game jersey, pretty shitty thing to do.

I think they ran out of toilet paper in the men's room.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Oh no, Tom Brady won't have some keepsake to remember that he is Tom fucking Brady and was in the game...

It's worth more as a collector item anyway, sort of like Jordan's Flu Game shoes.

Former Patriots players were talking about that it's the one keepsake that they have from these SB wins. They don't wash them and hang them in their homes.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I think they ran out of toilet paper in the men's room.

Yeah, you would know all about that with the crap that you spew. Suck it troll!!!

 

[Capt Caveman]