Super easy/reliable backup software?

EliteRetard

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All I'm finding is spyware, massively over complicated crap, stuff that wont restore and/or requires the original drive still be functional to restore, etc. I just want to set a simple schedule to do a system backup every day and a full bootable clone once a month...with a super easy way to restore, maybe with it's own bootable software and I can just pick a date and it restores back to it (or easily copies the latest clone to a new drive, then potentially restores a backup to that).

Got a 256GB SSD with 1TB internal, backing up to a 5TB external. Also have a few more 1TB drives I can backup/clone to and keep elsewhere (I have an external 2 bay quick swap HDD toaster thing). This was a personal rig, but it's becoming a small business machine and really needs a backup/cleanup. Don't want to erase or change anything until it's certain there are good copies of everything and a continuing backup from here on.

If it matters, the system is an i5-2500k (no OC), 16GB DDR3, 6950 2GB, and Win 10 Home 64bit.
 

Elixer

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Just be aware that Acronis (and...) do NOT guarantee it made a perfect copy, and you MUST test said copy via a restore to make sure it is a good copy.

Their "verify" feature just checks that the container is OK, NOT that the data matches the source.
Once that is actually verified (via checksums), then you should do differential backups.
 

EliteRetard

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Just be aware that Acronis (and...) do NOT guarantee it made a perfect copy, and you MUST test said copy via a restore to make sure it is a good copy.

Their "verify" feature just checks that the container is OK, NOT that the data matches the source.
Once that is actually verified (via checksums), then you should do differential backups.

Yeah...not the slightest clue what you're saying. I don't know why this needs to be so dang hard.

With a 5TB backup I should easily be able to hold a weeks worth of daily backups, in nice easy files listed by date. Then have a clone or two that will cycle monthly, so I can just pop one in and boot from it (then possibly apply one of the daily backups to it).

This should be as easy as setting your antivirus to do a quick scan every night and a full scan monthly. I did try some copy of Acronis (not sure which one) and it was a massively over complicated pile of crap that just wouldn't work right. I couldn't even get it to make a clone (even booting from outside windows), kept erasing everything or screwing with any/every partition on the drive...even with a completely empty drive I never got a successful clone (was thinking maybe I could partition after). Why can't I just make an exact copy of the data as it is and plop it into a properly sized portion of a bigger drive?
 

Elixer

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Yeah...not the slightest clue what you're saying. I don't know why this needs to be so dang hard.

With a 5TB backup I should easily be able to hold a weeks worth of daily backups, in nice easy files listed by date. Then have a clone or two that will cycle monthly, so I can just pop one in and boot from it (then possibly apply one of the daily backups to it).

This should be as easy as setting your antivirus to do a quick scan every night and a full scan monthly. I did try some copy of Acronis (not sure which one) and it was a massively over complicated pile of crap that just wouldn't work right. I couldn't even get it to make a clone (even booting from outside windows), kept erasing everything or screwing with any/every partition on the drive...even with a completely empty drive I never got a successful clone (was thinking maybe I could partition after). Why can't I just make an exact copy of the data as it is and plop it into a properly sized portion of a bigger drive?
What these programs do is copy data blocks, and not file by file. So, when you tell Acronis / Macrium Reflect (or...) to verify, all they do is verify the overall container is OK.
The data in the container can still be fubar. (I found that out the hard way, and sure, it only failed that one time, but, it DID fail. No reason for the failure that I can tell, all hardware works fine, just something went wrong during the backup.)

This is why I said you actually need to test the initial backup it made, to make sure the actual files are OK.
The only way to reasonably do that is on your original drive, you checksum all files, then on the backup copy, you run the checksum on those files, and then you compare the checksums back to the original.

Yes, the first time it is a PITA, but, I rather go through that process once, than something goes wrong, and you restore, only to find out your backup was fubar.
 
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Oyeve

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I also say Acronis. I back up my companies servers every night and across 3 locations and this SW works great for bare metal backup, and everything else.
 
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Kaido

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All I'm finding is spyware, massively over complicated crap, stuff that wont restore and/or requires the original drive still be functional to restore, etc. I just want to set a simple schedule to do a system backup every day and a full bootable clone once a month...with a super easy way to restore, maybe with it's own bootable software and I can just pick a date and it restores back to it (or easily copies the latest clone to a new drive, then potentially restores a backup to that).

Got a 256GB SSD with 1TB internal, backing up to a 5TB external. Also have a few more 1TB drives I can backup/clone to and keep elsewhere (I have an external 2 bay quick swap HDD toaster thing). This was a personal rig, but it's becoming a small business machine and really needs a backup/cleanup. Don't want to erase or change anything until it's certain there are good copies of everything and a continuing backup from here on.

If it matters, the system is an i5-2500k (no OC), 16GB DDR3, 6950 2GB, and Win 10 Home 64bit.

What you want is:

1. A system that backs everything up
2. A system that is 100% bulletproof
3. A system that is easy to restore

The best way to plan it out is to create use-case scenarios:

1. What happens if your computer gets eaten by a virus?
2. What do you do if your boot drive dies?

So this is what I would suggest:

1. A system that has a bootable restore tool
2. A system that does automatic scheduled backups
3. Spare drives for your boot & data drives

It sounds like you already have a couple of useful spare 1TB drives, which can be used to replace either your 250GB boot SSD or your 1TB data drive. You mentioned you already have a 5TB external drive. So for the actual implementation, here is what I would recommend: (in addition to what you have already)

1. A copy of Macrium Reflect backup software
2. A copy of Malwarebytes antivirus software
3. A USB stick
4. A USB backup drive
5. A calendar system

Macrium Reflect v7 is $70 for a home license:

https://www.macrium.com/products/home

This allows you to do several things:

1. Create a full backup image of your boot & data drive
2. Create incremental backups of that full image (for quick daily backups)
3. Create a USB boot stick

When you install Macrium, it will prompt you to create rescue media. It will download WinPE & let you create a bootable USB stick, with drivers for your computer. You can use that USB boot stick to boot up your computer & select a backup file to restore. In your case, that would either be the last incremental file from the previous night, or if your external backup got eaten by a virus or failed, then it would be your monthly full image backup.

I also recommend a good combination anti-malware, anti-virus, anti-cryptolocker system. Malwarebytes is excellent for $40 a year:

https://store.malwarebytes.com/342/purl-consumer-pricing

However, Malwarebytes doesn't protect you from drive failure, which is why backups are important. So let's say your boot drive does. Your procedure would be:

1. Swap out your boot SSD with one of your spare 1TB drives
2. Boot up the computer using your USB recovery stick
3. Select last night's incremental backup file from your 5TB USB backup drive & restore it
4. Boot up to the 1TB drive like nothing ever happened

I should also note, Macrium v7 is new & has a special super-fast incremental backup feature. I am doing twice-a-day backups at some locations & am testing out hourly incremental backups for a couple heavy DCC users. The backups are VERY fast & with a 5TB USB backup drive, you'd easily be able to hold months of incremental backups on that.

But lets say somehow a virus does eat your boot drive, data drive, and USB backup drive. Or lightning hits your house and fries everything plugged in. Then you can grab your monthly full image copy (offline version - unplugged, on a separate drive) and restore from that instead. FWIW, you can now buy a palm-sized 5TB USB-powered drive for $140:

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-Portable-External-STDR5000100/dp/B01LZP2B23

Last piece you need is your calendar, mostly just for remembering to back up to that unplugged drive. I'd suggest weekly over monthly, given how critical your data is & how important getting back up & running is, and how big & cheap the portable drives are these days. Without that calendar entry, you will eventually forget because you are not being reminded to do it.

So my recommended setup for you is:

1. Malwarebytes (anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-cryptolocker)
2. Spare drives (to replace your boot & data drives should they physically die)
3. Portable backup drive (for offline full image backups on a regular basis)
4. USB stick (for emergency booting in order to restore a full or incremental backup image)
5. Macrium Reflect Home Premium software (for automatic scheduled incremental backups)

Testing your backups is also important, which is another reason I recommend having a calendar - you want to make sure your backups aren't defective (it happens). You can do it 3 ways:

1. Macrium lets you mount & browse a backup image (full or incremental). Generally, if you can mount and browse and open files off the virtual drive, then you are good to go. I would calendar this in once a week to verify.
2. You can restore your most recently backup to one of your spare 1TB drives & then boot to it temporarily just to make sure that your backup is fully bootable. If you are really serious about needing to get back up & running in the event of a virus or drive crash, this is probably your best option.
3. Macrium includes viBoot, which lets you boot your backup image straight into a virtual machine. If you happen to be running Windows 8 or 10 (or Server 2008/2012/2016), then you can install Hyper-V, which is like Microsoft's version of Virtualbox or VMware. Then you can just boot your backup straight into a VM to check to make sure everything is working okay. That's a nice zippy way to check functionality of the backup, without having to actually do a hardware swap.

I will tell you 3 horror stories about backups:

1. Just today, I had a user who needed to do a simple task - format an SD card. For some reason, he kept his files on a MicroSD card, plugged into a MicroSD to SD adapter in an SD USB adapter in the back of his computer. He stuck his new SD card in the front of the computer and proceeded to wipe out his backup/data storage card. Oops. And of course, he didn't have a backup. Fun times were had (sic) after that using recovery software.

2. I have a friend who is a photographer. Hundreds of thousands of photos. Liked to use a combination of backup services, but in a scattered way...Smugmug, Crashplan, etc. Her iMac's Fusion drive recently died (SSD/HDD hybrid). Restoring was...an arduous task. A lot of organizational metadata was lost, and there was no way to verify that we recovered 100% of her stuff. Even though she was also using Time Machine, but had only selected specific folders for it to back up. It was a huge mess because it was a complicated backup system. If she had had a simple backup system, it would have been a piece of cake. Side note, I also HIGHLY recommend Backblaze, which is an online, encrypted backup system with unlimited storage for $5 a month. It is GREAT if you know what folders you want to back up:

https://www.backblaze.com/

3. This one will give you a nice pit in your stomach - the story of how Toy Story 2 was almost lost during production. Watch the whole thing here:


TL;DR - it is long to write out, but the idea is simple: make it easy, and make sure you protect yourself properly. It is not hard to do. It does require some up-front setup & initial financial investment into the software & hardware required to make a truly operational system. Most of it is automatic; your calendar can tell you when to (1) do a full system backup to an unplugged backup drive, and (2) when to check your backups manually to make sure they actually work. This creates a fairly bulletproof system. I setup systems like this for customers both in the corporate & individual world and it works great. It is not fun to have to spend money on this, nor is it fun to have to follow manual procedures on a weekly or monthly basis to test & back things up, but if/when Murphy's Law does hit you, it will be worth every penny & every moment spent having to check & run your backups.
 

Thebobo

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Jun 19, 2006
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What you want is:

1. A system that backs everything up
2. A system that is 100% bulletproof
3. A system that is easy to restore

The best way to plan it out is to create use-case scenarios:

1. What happens if your computer gets eaten by a virus?
2. What do you do if your boot drive dies?

So this is what I would suggest:

1. A system that has a bootable restore tool
2. A system that does automatic scheduled backups
3. Spare drives for your boot & data drives

It sounds like you already have a couple of useful spare 1TB drives, which can be used to replace either your 250GB boot SSD or your 1TB data drive. You mentioned you already have a 5TB external drive. So for the actual implementation, here is what I would recommend: (in addition to what you have already)

1. A copy of Macrium Reflect backup software
2. A copy of Malwarebytes antivirus software
3. A USB stick
4. A USB backup drive
5. A calendar system

Macrium Reflect v7 is $70 for a home license:

https://www.macrium.com/products/home

This allows you to do several things:

1. Create a full backup image of your boot & data drive
2. Create incremental backups of that full image (for quick daily backups)
3. Create a USB boot stick

When you install Macrium, it will prompt you to create rescue media. It will download WinPE & let you create a bootable USB stick, with drivers for your computer. You can use that USB boot stick to boot up your computer & select a backup file to restore. In your case, that would either be the last incremental file from the previous night, or if your external backup got eaten by a virus or failed, then it would be your monthly full image backup.

I also recommend a good combination anti-malware, anti-virus, anti-cryptolocker system. Malwarebytes is excellent for $40 a year:

https://store.malwarebytes.com/342/purl-consumer-pricing

However, Malwarebytes doesn't protect you from drive failure, which is why backups are important. So let's say your boot drive does. Your procedure would be:

1. Swap out your boot SSD with one of your spare 1TB drives
2. Boot up the computer using your USB recovery stick
3. Select last night's incremental backup file from your 5TB USB backup drive & restore it
4. Boot up to the 1TB drive like nothing ever happened

I should also note, Macrium v7 is new & has a special super-fast incremental backup feature. I am doing twice-a-day backups at some locations & am testing out hourly incremental backups for a couple heavy DCC users. The backups are VERY fast & with a 5TB USB backup drive, you'd easily be able to hold months of incremental backups on that.

But lets say somehow a virus does eat your boot drive, data drive, and USB backup drive. Or lightning hits your house and fries everything plugged in. Then you can grab your monthly full image copy (offline version - unplugged, on a separate drive) and restore from that instead. FWIW, you can now buy a palm-sized 5TB USB-powered drive for $140:

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-Portable-External-STDR5000100/dp/B01LZP2B23

Last piece you need is your calendar, mostly just for remembering to back up to that unplugged drive. I'd suggest weekly over monthly, given how critical your data is & how important getting back up & running is, and how big & cheap the portable drives are these days. Without that calendar entry, you will eventually forget because you are not being reminded to do it.

So my recommended setup for you is:

1. Malwarebytes (anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-cryptolocker)
2. Spare drives (to replace your boot & data drives should they physically die)
3. Portable backup drive (for offline full image backups on a regular basis)
4. USB stick (for emergency booting in order to restore a full or incremental backup image)
5. Macrium Reflect Home Premium software (for automatic scheduled incremental backups)

Testing your backups is also important, which is another reason I recommend having a calendar - you want to make sure your backups aren't defective (it happens). You can do it 3 ways:

1. Macrium lets you mount & browse a backup image (full or incremental). Generally, if you can mount and browse and open files off the virtual drive, then you are good to go. I would calendar this in once a week to verify.
2. You can restore your most recently backup to one of your spare 1TB drives & then boot to it temporarily just to make sure that your backup is fully bootable. If you are really serious about needing to get back up & running in the event of a virus or drive crash, this is probably your best option.
3. Macrium includes viBoot, which lets you boot your backup image straight into a virtual machine. If you happen to be running Windows 8 or 10 (or Server 2008/2012/2016), then you can install Hyper-V, which is like Microsoft's version of Virtualbox or VMware. Then you can just boot your backup straight into a VM to check to make sure everything is working okay. That's a nice zippy way to check functionality of the backup, without having to actually do a hardware swap.

I will tell you 3 horror stories about backups:

1. Just today, I had a user who needed to do a simple task - format an SD card. For some reason, he kept his files on a MicroSD card, plugged into a MicroSD to SD adapter in an SD USB adapter in the back of his computer. He stuck his new SD card in the front of the computer and proceeded to wipe out his backup/data storage card. Oops. And of course, he didn't have a backup. Fun times were had (sic) after that using recovery software.

2. I have a friend who is a photographer. Hundreds of thousands of photos. Liked to use a combination of backup services, but in a scattered way...Smugmug, Crashplan, etc. Her iMac's Fusion drive recently died (SSD/HDD hybrid). Restoring was...an arduous task. A lot of organizational metadata was lost, and there was no way to verify that we recovered 100% of her stuff. Even though she was also using Time Machine, but had only selected specific folders for it to back up. It was a huge mess because it was a complicated backup system. If she had had a simple backup system, it would have been a piece of cake. Side note, I also HIGHLY recommend Backblaze, which is an online, encrypted backup system with unlimited storage for $5 a month. It is GREAT if you know what folders you want to back up:

https://www.backblaze.com/

3. This one will give you a nice pit in your stomach - the story of how Toy Story 2 was almost lost during production. Watch the whole thing here:


TL;DR - it is long to write out, but the idea is simple: make it easy, and make sure you protect yourself properly. It is not hard to do. It does require some up-front setup & initial financial investment into the software & hardware required to make a truly operational system. Most of it is automatic; your calendar can tell you when to (1) do a full system backup to an unplugged backup drive, and (2) when to check your backups manually to make sure they actually work. This creates a fairly bulletproof system. I setup systems like this for customers both in the corporate & individual world and it works great. It is not fun to have to spend money on this, nor is it fun to have to follow manual procedures on a weekly or monthly basis to test & back things up, but if/when Murphy's Law does hit you, it will be worth every penny & every moment spent having to check & run your backups.


Awesome write up. What min size USB recovery stick do you need?

Thanks
 
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Binky

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Your HD manufacturer most likely will give you a free version of Acronis. The last time I checked, this was true for at least Seagate and WD. Check their software downloads.

FYI - "easiest" = cloud based, until something goes wrong at least.
 
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What you want is:

1. A system that backs everything up
2. A system that is 100% bulletproof
3. A system that is easy to restore

The best way to plan it out is to create use-case scenarios:

1. What happens if your computer gets eaten by a virus?
2. What do you do if your boot drive dies?

So this is what I would suggest:

1. A system that has a bootable restore tool
2. A system that does automatic scheduled backups
3. Spare drives for your boot & data drives

It sounds like you already have a couple of useful spare 1TB drives, which can be used to replace either your 250GB boot SSD or your 1TB data drive. You mentioned you already have a 5TB external drive. So for the actual implementation, here is what I would recommend: (in addition to what you have already)

1. A copy of Macrium Reflect backup software
2. A copy of Malwarebytes antivirus software
3. A USB stick
4. A USB backup drive
5. A calendar system

Macrium Reflect v7 is $70 for a home license:

https://www.macrium.com/products/home

This allows you to do several things:

1. Create a full backup image of your boot & data drive
2. Create incremental backups of that full image (for quick daily backups)
3. Create a USB boot stick

When you install Macrium, it will prompt you to create rescue media. It will download WinPE & let you create a bootable USB stick, with drivers for your computer. You can use that USB boot stick to boot up your computer & select a backup file to restore. In your case, that would either be the last incremental file from the previous night, or if your external backup got eaten by a virus or failed, then it would be your monthly full image backup.

I also recommend a good combination anti-malware, anti-virus, anti-cryptolocker system. Malwarebytes is excellent for $40 a year:

https://store.malwarebytes.com/342/purl-consumer-pricing

However, Malwarebytes doesn't protect you from drive failure, which is why backups are important. So let's say your boot drive does. Your procedure would be:

1. Swap out your boot SSD with one of your spare 1TB drives
2. Boot up the computer using your USB recovery stick
3. Select last night's incremental backup file from your 5TB USB backup drive & restore it
4. Boot up to the 1TB drive like nothing ever happened

I should also note, Macrium v7 is new & has a special super-fast incremental backup feature. I am doing twice-a-day backups at some locations & am testing out hourly incremental backups for a couple heavy DCC users. The backups are VERY fast & with a 5TB USB backup drive, you'd easily be able to hold months of incremental backups on that.

But lets say somehow a virus does eat your boot drive, data drive, and USB backup drive. Or lightning hits your house and fries everything plugged in. Then you can grab your monthly full image copy (offline version - unplugged, on a separate drive) and restore from that instead. FWIW, you can now buy a palm-sized 5TB USB-powered drive for $140:

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-Portable-External-STDR5000100/dp/B01LZP2B23

Last piece you need is your calendar, mostly just for remembering to back up to that unplugged drive. I'd suggest weekly over monthly, given how critical your data is & how important getting back up & running is, and how big & cheap the portable drives are these days. Without that calendar entry, you will eventually forget because you are not being reminded to do it.

So my recommended setup for you is:

1. Malwarebytes (anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-cryptolocker)
2. Spare drives (to replace your boot & data drives should they physically die)
3. Portable backup drive (for offline full image backups on a regular basis)
4. USB stick (for emergency booting in order to restore a full or incremental backup image)
5. Macrium Reflect Home Premium software (for automatic scheduled incremental backups)

Testing your backups is also important, which is another reason I recommend having a calendar - you want to make sure your backups aren't defective (it happens). You can do it 3 ways:

1. Macrium lets you mount & browse a backup image (full or incremental). Generally, if you can mount and browse and open files off the virtual drive, then you are good to go. I would calendar this in once a week to verify.
2. You can restore your most recently backup to one of your spare 1TB drives & then boot to it temporarily just to make sure that your backup is fully bootable. If you are really serious about needing to get back up & running in the event of a virus or drive crash, this is probably your best option.
3. Macrium includes viBoot, which lets you boot your backup image straight into a virtual machine. If you happen to be running Windows 8 or 10 (or Server 2008/2012/2016), then you can install Hyper-V, which is like Microsoft's version of Virtualbox or VMware. Then you can just boot your backup straight into a VM to check to make sure everything is working okay. That's a nice zippy way to check functionality of the backup, without having to actually do a hardware swap.

I will tell you 3 horror stories about backups:

1. Just today, I had a user who needed to do a simple task - format an SD card. For some reason, he kept his files on a MicroSD card, plugged into a MicroSD to SD adapter in an SD USB adapter in the back of his computer. He stuck his new SD card in the front of the computer and proceeded to wipe out his backup/data storage card. Oops. And of course, he didn't have a backup. Fun times were had (sic) after that using recovery software.

2. I have a friend who is a photographer. Hundreds of thousands of photos. Liked to use a combination of backup services, but in a scattered way...Smugmug, Crashplan, etc. Her iMac's Fusion drive recently died (SSD/HDD hybrid). Restoring was...an arduous task. A lot of organizational metadata was lost, and there was no way to verify that we recovered 100% of her stuff. Even though she was also using Time Machine, but had only selected specific folders for it to back up. It was a huge mess because it was a complicated backup system. If she had had a simple backup system, it would have been a piece of cake. Side note, I also HIGHLY recommend Backblaze, which is an online, encrypted backup system with unlimited storage for $5 a month. It is GREAT if you know what folders you want to back up:

https://www.backblaze.com/

3. This one will give you a nice pit in your stomach - the story of how Toy Story 2 was almost lost during production. Watch the whole thing here:


TL;DR - it is long to write out, but the idea is simple: make it easy, and make sure you protect yourself properly. It is not hard to do. It does require some up-front setup & initial financial investment into the software & hardware required to make a truly operational system. Most of it is automatic; your calendar can tell you when to (1) do a full system backup to an unplugged backup drive, and (2) when to check your backups manually to make sure they actually work. This creates a fairly bulletproof system. I setup systems like this for customers both in the corporate & individual world and it works great. It is not fun to have to spend money on this, nor is it fun to have to follow manual procedures on a weekly or monthly basis to test & back things up, but if/when Murphy's Law does hit you, it will be worth every penny & every moment spent having to check & run your backups.

Only thing I'd add is that if the data is important enough, you should never trust any single drive or solution 100%. Everything can, and will, fail. Usually at the most inconvenient time imaginable.

The real strength of digital data is being able to quickly make 1:1 copies of that data. Spread the data around multiple drives, or other storage media. Storage space is really cheap today, there is little point in saving any.

Oh, and don't trust USB HDD or flash drives. They're notoriously unreliable. If you do need such drives, buy a stock 3.5" or 2.5" drive, and a USB adaptor/case for it. But don't cheap out on either.

Awesome write up. What min size USB recovery stick do you need?

Price wise there is little reason to get below 16GB these days. Which is plenty.
 
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Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
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Awesome write up. What min size USB recovery stick do you need?

Thanks

Depends on if you just want the emergency boot system (the WinPE boot environment, aka Windows "lite" + drivers + Macrium) or if you also want to store, say, a master image of your setup on the stick.

Whenever I setup a new system for someone, I make a USB recovery stick + a "golden" image & put it on the USB stick...basically a custom factory recovery disc. It has activated Windows, drivers, all updates, all of their activated apps, desktop configuration, etc. so if they want to do a "factory" reload, it's not only quick, but has all of their original stuff on it. Although some people prefer just a bare master image without the software too.

You can format the USB stick as FAT32 or NTFS. Although FAT32 is limited to 32GB max, and it will split the backup image into 4GB chunks, so I prefer NTFS. Quick note, if you have a large stick, you may get an error formatting, so you may need to check (or uncheck) the "Enable multiboot MBR/UEFI USB support" checkbox before final setup. I'm not sure what the minimum size is, maybe a gig for just WinPE? (I think PE is ~700 megs, couldn't find any definitive info about the min size required). Larger, of course, if you want to store a backup copy of your system on it.
 

Kaido

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Feb 14, 2004
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Only thing I'd add is that if the data is important enough, you should never trust any single drive or solution 100%. Everything can, and will, fail. Usually at the most inconvenient time imaginable.

The real strength of digital data is being able to quickly make 1:1 copies of that data. Spread the data around multiple drives, or other storage media. Storage space is really cheap today, there is little point in saving any.

Oh, and don't trust USB HDD or flash drives. They're notoriously unreliable. If you do need such drives, buy a stock 3.5" or 2.5" drive, and a USB adaptor/case for it. But don't cheap out on either.

Price wise there is little reason to get below 16GB these days. Which is plenty.

Definitely! One thing I forgot to add is that you can add a custom boot menu in Macrium...when your computer boots, it will give you the choice to boot into Windows or into the Macrium Recovery console. That's a nice backup if you misplace your USB recovery stick (although it doesn't do you much good if the drive physically dies).

I like the combination of Macrium Reflect (both a a daily backup with an always-connected backup drive, plus an "offline" unplugged backup drive that gets used say weekly, just in case your whole system gets fried or eaten by a virus or whatever) + Backblaze (online, encrypted). I also setup Genie9 for people sometimes, which is like Apple's Time Machine (CDP-style backup, where changes are saved as files are modified, so you have a history you can go back in time through), but for Windows:

https://www.genie9.com/
 
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EliteRetard

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Thank you everyone for the information so far. Unfortunately I've been sidetracked by another much larger project (30 PC computer lab from scratch) and haven't had the time to do further research on these replies. I figured I should at least pop in and say "I'll be back".
 

Chiefcrowe

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Will Backblaze let you exclude a few folders if you only want to backup your photos and music for example?


2. I have a friend who is a photographer. Hundreds of thousands of photos. Liked to use a combination of backup services, but in a scattered way...Smugmug, Crashplan, etc. Her iMac's Fusion drive recently died (SSD/HDD hybrid). Restoring was...an arduous task. A lot of organizational metadata was lost, and there was no way to verify that we recovered 100% of her stuff. Even though she was also using Time Machine, but had only selected specific folders for it to back up. It was a huge mess because it was a complicated backup system. If she had had a simple backup system, it would have been a piece of cake. Side note, I also HIGHLY recommend Backblaze, which is an online, encrypted backup system with unlimited storage for $5 a month. It is GREAT if you know what folders you want to back up:

https://www.backblaze.com/
 

Kaido

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Thank you everyone for the information so far. Unfortunately I've been sidetracked by another much larger project (30 PC computer lab from scratch) and haven't had the time to do further research on these replies. I figured I should at least pop in and say "I'll be back".

Are they all similar machines? You can use Macrium to image a master & then zap a clone over via a USB stick or network share or USB HDD dock. And sysprep the master if you're feeling fancy!
 

Kaido

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Will Backblaze let you exclude a few folders if you only want to backup your photos and music for example?

Hmm, good question. I know that in the pay-for version, you can clone specific folders. iirc you can only select one master folder, but if you have your photos & music under another folder, you can just select that one.

Genie9 might be a better option for multiple specific folders, for local backup, or else Backblaze, for online backup, which also lets you specify folders, if you want.
 
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