*Super-Secret Thread* What DOES it take to be able to be The Pres? To run The United States of America?

[MichaelD]

Today, I saw The President on TV. I began to think

"Wow, he deserves a day off! I wonder WTH it really takes to run this country?"

Meaning, what kind of skills, both business and people...what kind of..charisma, etc must you possess to be an effective President?

Is he really just a figurehead? ( I do ascribe to this line of thinking from time to time... ) or is he really making the decisions?

This goes for ALL those that have occupied the seat, both past and present.

What do you think?

 

[CrazyPerson]

some one like me
who no know how to read, no spell good, and crazy

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

As presidents past and especially present have proven, you have to know how to bullsh!t to the american public and keep a straight face, for one.

 

[Trezza]

IMO i think that all any president does is take the advice of his aids and balence their different opinions till he finds one that is acceptible. thats why i believe that when you vote for a president you should no how he reacts to different situations

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You need money and connections.

Otherwise, Presidents are not inherently superior to OTers even.

 

[Trezza]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
You need money and connections.

Otherwise, Presidents are not inherently superior to OTers even.

so your saying that anybody could handle the amount of responiblity and stress as any of our presidents has. If thats the case without knowing what you know today what would you have done in the civil war, vietnam, korean or gulf war. How would you stand on hot topics like abortion and death penalty if you know that your choice would limit your term? Its a tough job and i don't think that just everyone can handle this type of work.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: Trezza

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
You need money and connections.

Otherwise, Presidents are not inherently superior to OTers even.

so your saying that anybody could handle the amount of responiblity and stress as any of our presidents has. If thats the case without knowing what you know today what would you have done in the civil war, vietnam, korean or gulf war. How would you stand on hot topics like abortion and death penalty if you know that your choice would limit your term? Its a tough job and i don't think that just everyone can handle this type of work.

Yep. That's what I want to discuss. I know what MY personal opinions are on things...but allegedly, the postion of President is to make the decisions for the better good of "the people" in general.

We all know that's a crock of sh1t thought. Dems do for the Dems, Repubs for the Repubs, etc.

 

[GTaudiophile]

$$$

 

[her209]

Its pretty easy to be President.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: her209
Its pretty easy to be President.

Please, elaborate.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What a president needs to learn is learned in office, not at a president school. There is a great deal of stress in the world. I do not believe that a President is subject to more than an ER physician for example. That is a matter of temperment though. No, not everyone can be President, or ought to, but the intellectual requirements are not extreme.

 

[Trezza]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
What a president needs to learn is learned in office, not at a president school. There is a great deal of stress in the world. I do not believe that a President is subject to more than an ER physician for example. That is a matter of temperment though. No, not everyone can be President, or ought to, but the intellectual requirements are not extreme.

well i disagree with you about the stress level. I mean think about how you would feel if you were the president of the US during 9-11? Me i know i would have half the patients bush did...now some of you might not believe he has patients but i would have attacked the first person that i thought did it. Not saying thats right, and by no means am i saying that i would be a good president but i would be / was so sad and angry that i wouldn't think rationally. I give anyone credit who could wait as long as he did to go after someone. (lets not turn this into a gulf war thread about if it was right or not thats not what i am saying at all).

 

[Daovonnaex]

I think it takes pretty much the same skills as it takes to be an effective manager. As we all know, there are many ways to manage effectively. Some Presidents like to delegate authority and simply present a vision (e.g., Reagan). Others try not to change things that work except when dictated by necessity or irresistable force (e.g., Eisenhower). Still others try to break all the rules and come up with a totally new system (e.g., Kennedy). Then there are those who are content to lie and destroy the rule of law (e.g., Clinton). And finally, we have those who have no idea what the hell is going on and let a bunch of fascist warhawks run the show (e.g., Bush II). Each of these strategies have their strengths and their weaknesses (except the last two, which have nothing but flaws).

I like the Reagan model of leadership the most, though that model needs someone supremely competent (which the Teflon President was not) to keep things in check, or subordinates can get out of hand (Iran Contra, anyone?). When a strong vision is presented, people feel real leadership. When authority is delegated, things get done quickly without a lot of bureaucratic fuss. But again, this kind of management takes good leaders and good subordinates.

 

[stormbv]

Well, from the looks of President Bush, having a family that can get you into Yale and Harvard is a plus.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: Trezza

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
What a president needs to learn is learned in office, not at a president school. There is a great deal of stress in the world. I do not believe that a President is subject to more than an ER physician for example. That is a matter of temperment though. No, not everyone can be President, or ought to, but the intellectual requirements are not extreme.

well i disagree with you about the stress level. I mean think about how you would feel if you were the president of the US during 9-11? Me i know i would have half the patients bush did...now some of you might not believe he has patients but i would have attacked the first person that i thought did it. Not saying thats right, and by no means am i saying that i would be a good president but i would be / was so sad and angry that i wouldn't think rationally. I give anyone credit who could wait as long as he did to go after someone. (lets not turn this into a gulf war thread about if it was right or not thats not what i am saying at all).

You give him too much credit. There are proper channels that need to be followed, and they needed to be sure exactly who was responsible before retaliating against anyone. It's not like he could just say "F 'em" and shoot nukes at whoever he felt like. I think any President who was in office during something like that would have reacted similary...except maybe without the term "evil doers".

 

[Joker81]

You need to be:

Male (I don't believe this but its true)
35
Natural Born Citizen
Law Degree(most of them I think do)
Have your father be a previous president
Money
More Money
Married to someone who is a trophy wife.
Know a lot of people in high places.

 

[rival]

should be able to ride a fvcking segway fffs

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Trezza

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
What a president needs to learn is learned in office, not at a president school. There is a great deal of stress in the world. I do not believe that a President is subject to more than an ER physician for example. That is a matter of temperment though. No, not everyone can be President, or ought to, but the intellectual requirements are not extreme.

well i disagree with you about the stress level. I mean think about how you would feel if you were the president of the US during 9-11? Me i know i would have half the patients bush did...now some of you might not believe he has patients but i would have attacked the first person that i thought did it. Not saying thats right, and by no means am i saying that i would be a good president but i would be / was so sad and angry that i wouldn't think rationally. I give anyone credit who could wait as long as he did to go after someone. (lets not turn this into a gulf war thread about if it was right or not thats not what i am saying at all).

Doctors have patients.

There's probably more stress in working 12 hours and trying to save someones life at the end of it, than instructing a load of people to go to another country and kill.
Sure, it can be a difficult job, but that's true of a lot of jobs.

 

[Aboroth]

Originally posted by: stormbv
Well, from the looks of President Bush, having a family that can get you into Yale and Harvard is a plus.

Also to help erase your criminal record.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: Aboroth

Originally posted by: stormbv
Well, from the looks of President Bush, having a family that can get you into Yale and Harvard is a plus.

Also to help erase your criminal record.

Well, I'm not as anal about that as a lot of people. Some people feel that the Pres of the USA should have led a completely error-free, and squeaky-clean life. IMO, everyone has minor indescretions during their life...you shouldn't hang someone for it.