Why, because Republicans lie and say mean things about Joe Biden?
They would attack anyone and everyone with the same exact fervor, if not the same way.
It is faux outrage/indignity to think Joe Biden is tainted goods.
It will be come debate time. Guaran-fucking-tee you will see headlines and hear Trump talk about Joe Biden's corruption, Biden family corruption, project project project.
Thanks to Trump and the idiots that follow him, Biden's tainted goods. I still cannot for the life of me understand how people think he will win this election.
I voted Sanders in 2016 but helped propel Biden to unexpectedly win my state on Tuesday because of blackjack200
I told you before that you guys were alienating possible supporters and you didn’t care because you thought you would win anyway. Well, looks like you were wrong.
Want to have a chance at winning? Look to do better, instead of attacking people who 90% agree with you, partner with them. Bernie stands for things most Democrats like, with the exception of one thing, people like you remind us of /r/the_donald.
I doubt you or the other Bros will take this advice but it’s true.
Trump didnt "invent" the fact that Biden's son is on the board of a major foreign company, and almost certainly (only) got there because of his political connections. All you had to do was listen to the impeachment hearings to know what kind of field day the Republicans are going to have attacking Biden about this. Sure Trump would find something to attack about any candidate, but as far as I know none of the other major candidates had such a ready made opportunity.What’s weird about this is people claiming that because Trump invented a lie about one candidate they are tainted goods and we must choose another as if Trump would not just invent a lie about that one too.
No, it isn't. Trump's going to be running clips from the impeachment trial of those numbnuts asking nonstop about Hunter/'Bidens' and claiming nonstop how the Democrats are trying to shield their corruption, how Trump's there to clean house, yadayada.Why, because Republicans lie and say mean things about Joe Biden?
They would attack anyone and everyone with the same exact fervor, if not the same way.
It is faux outrage/indignity to think Joe Biden is tainted goods.
Not to mention there's literally already historical soundbites and video regarding it. Like, the lie doesn't have to be accurate, it just has to be well sourced, simple, and easy to repeat. What is there on Bernie again? The fact he's been anti-money for like a century? That he's vaguely made comments regarding some shit some might find uncomfortable 30 years ago?Trump didnt "invent" the fact that Biden's son is on the board of a major foreign company, and almost certainly got there because of his political connections. All you had to do was listen to the impeachment hearings to know what kind of field day the Republicans are going to have attacking Biden about this. Sure Trump would find something to attack about any candidate, but as far as I know none of the other major candidates had such a ready made opportunity.
Trump didnt "invent" the fact that Biden's son is on the board of a major foreign company, and almost certainly got there because of his political connections. All you had to do was listen to the impeachment hearings to know what kind of field day the Republicans are going to have attacking Biden about this. Sure Trump would find something to attack about any candidate, but as far as I know none of the other major candidates had such a ready made opportunity.
I voted Sanders in 2016 but helped propel Biden to unexpectedly win my state on Tuesday because of blackjack200
Neither are senile, imho. Both have problems expressing themselves perfectly in the 24/7 crucible of our modern political spotlight.
Let me ask each and every one of you here, regardless of your fucking age:
Honestly, how do YOU think you'd hold up under the rigors of this unrelenting spotlight? Perfectly? Yeah, sure!
Bernie’s praise for communist countries is a larger liability by about ten orders of magnitude.Not to mention there's literally already historical soundbites and video regarding it. Like, the lie doesn't have to be accurate, it just has to be well sourced, simple, and easy to repeat. What is there on Bernie again? The fact he's been anti-money for like a century? That he's vaguely made comments regarding some shit some might find uncomfortable 30 years ago?
Americans care, as they should as nepotism is a cancer. Now, it's small potatoes compared to what we've dealt with regarding Trump, but that doesn't matter to people that already support Trump (neither does the double-standard regarding his kids). It'll be the number one headline during the entire debate, 'This is what the Democrats represent, corrupt nepotism, 50k/mo payments to their untrained kids, crystal ball fund raisers'.His kid got a cushy job? Who gives a fuck.
Haha, I figured this was the point of your post.
We don't agree on anything! What do we agree on? It's absurd that we're nominally in the same party, but let's face it, that's because there's only one viable party in the country. If we had a parliamentary system you'd probably be to the right of the Tories and I'd be to the left of Labor. Sanders's message to the working class is the authentic version of Trump's fake populism. That's why they sound so similar, and that's a big reason Sanders's supporters believe he has a unique advantage over Trump in a general election.
No, you're not the sort we listen to.
Personally, I think you are living in a dream world, but I hope you are correct and this turns out to be an ineffective thing to attack Biden about. i very seriously doubt that though.Cool, I'll vote for Trump as revenge.
Edit: Ehh, this was a throwaway joke that I deleted because I didn't think it really landed, but somehow it got swept up when I quoted Perk, so here it is in all it's glory.
I actually agree with you on this. Everyone here knows that I'm no fan of either candidate, but none of the clips I've watched suggest dementia or severe cognitive decline. In Turmp's case, I wish it were true. I wish he was much less effective, I wish his brain was being eaten by worms.
Like I said, I agree that Republicans will try and push that, it’s just that nobody gives a fuck.Americans care, as they should as nepotism is a cancer. Now, it's small potatoes compared to what we've dealt with regarding Trump, but that doesn't matter to people that already support Trump (neither does the double-standard regarding his kids). It'll be the number one headline during the entire debate, 'This is what the Democrats represent, corrupt nepotism, 50k/mo payments to their untrained kids, crystal ball fund raisers'.
Is that a Joe Biden problem or a corporate board problem?Trump didnt "invent" the fact that Biden's son is on the board of a major foreign company, and almost certainly (only) got there because of his political connections. All you had to do was listen to the impeachment hearings to know what kind of field day the Republicans are going to have attacking Biden about this. Sure Trump would find something to attack about any candidate, but as far as I know none of the other major candidates had such a ready made opportunity.
By "your kid" you referring to Ivanka Trump? Just point back to Trump rinse and repeatLike I said, I agree that Republicans will try and push that, it’s just that nobody gives a fuck.
Seriously, think up a scandal for a candidate to have because Republicans will invent one if they don’t have one. Can you even imagine one better for the Democrat than ‘but but YOUR KID GOT A NICE JOB!’ I can’t.
One I can think of that is bad though is ‘you were a big fan of brutal communist dictatorships’. You might say that’s not true, and I agree, but it’s a way easier attack to use.
Honestly, I think the 'he supported communism!' regarding Bernie would be even better. Hell, half of America supports socialist programs, and most young adults are smart enough to know that the 'communism' scare of damn near a century ago isn't relevant anymore. As a 30-something, I'm personally far more in favor of voting for someone being accused of being a communist because they support socialist programs than I am of voting for someone who's very clearly supporting nepotism.Like I said, I agree that Republicans will try and push that, it’s just that nobody gives a fuck.
Seriously, think up a scandal for a candidate to have because Republicans will invent one if they don’t have one. Can you even imagine one better for the Democrat than ‘but but YOUR KID GOT A NICE JOB!’ I can’t.
One I can think of that is bad though is ‘you were a big fan of brutal communist dictatorships’. You might say that’s not true, and I agree, but it’s a way easier attack to use.
Exactly, all I would say is ‘your fashion designer daughter and her business failure idiot husband are running the White House’, point and then laugh.By "your kid" you referring to Ivanka Trump? Just point back to Trump rinse and repeat
Why, because Republicans lie and say mean things about Joe Biden?
They would attack anyone and everyone with the same exact fervor, if not the same way.
It is faux outrage/indignity to think Joe Biden is tainted goods.
If you want to convince yourself we don’t agree on anything and that you’re right in behaving the way you do that’s fine, but you will lose.
Don’t say I didn’t try to warn you!
No they didn't.Bernie Bros had a legit beef last time. ...
Yes, they are. Luckily we can check what they say vs. what they vote for for most of them. Do you really think that if HR1 cleared the Senate that Biden would veto it?Politicians are good at stating lots of things
Taking money is not proof of corruption no matter how much you think it is. It's only corruption if taking the money is illegal and if the person votes differently than they would have if there was no money. If you think Biden would veto HR1 you are crazy.Right.
Wall Street, Encouraged by Biden’s Wins, Breaks Out Its Checkbooks (Published 2020)
Fearful of the more progressive candidates, some finance executives had sidelined themselves from the elections until Mr. Biden surged.www.nytimes.com
The idea that Hunter got that job because of political connections is pure bullshit. It is well known that he got that job through connections he made in college.Trump didnt "invent" the fact that Biden's son is on the board of a major foreign company, and almost certainly (only) got there because of his political connections. All you had to do was listen to the impeachment hearings to know what kind of field day the Republicans are going to have attacking Biden about this. Sure Trump would find something to attack about any candidate, but as far as I know none of the other major candidates had such a ready made opportunity.
And guess what? The marginal voters in swing states that will decide the election feel differently! If you think ‘supported communism’ won’t be an effective tack to take with people who were raised to hate communism you’ve got a rude awakening ahead of you.Honestly, I think the 'he supported communism!' regarding Bernie would be even better. Hell, half of America supports socialist programs, and most young adults are smart enough to know that the 'communism' scare of damn near a century ago isn't relevant anymore. As a 30-something, I'm personally far more in favor of voting for someone being accused of being a communist because they support socialist programs than I am of voting for someone who's very clearly supporting nepotism.
Yes he is.Way to play the trump card;
Are you trying to help him make his point?
Both their kids got a cushy job for which they were unqualified. That's a wash but Trump himself hired herI genuinely hope they try to focus on that because no other candidate will have the luxury of such a comically mild thing for their opponents to focus on.
His kid got a cushy job? Who gives a fuck.
Personally, I think you are living in a dream world, but I hope you are correct and this turns out to be an ineffective thing to attack Biden about. i very seriously doubt that though.
The people raised to hate communism are already Trump supporters, and they despise socialist programs precisely because they're socialist. Those are already lost souls.And guess what? The marginal voters in swing states that will decide the election feel differently! If you think ‘supported communism’ won’t be an effective tack to take with people who were raised to hate communism you’ve got a rude awakening ahead of you.
It doesn’t matter what you or I think, we are already in the bag. It only matters what they think.