Support for Trump an indication that most people are bad?

[shady28]

I didn't have much skin in the game for the ACA. There are those who think it's just no damn good; those who confirm to themselves that they aren't losing an extra dime; and those who actually benefit.

But there was no reason for Hillary to stir the pot about "affordable care" in the '90s, with Fiske and then Ken Starr turning over stones about Whitewater and everything else. Yet, she did.

The Clintons have made their money in politics. But their assets are small potatoes. You take a car and drive around rural Arkansas, look at some old photos in Bill's memoir; take a Sunday drive around Chicago and Park Ridge.

Then ask yourself if Justin Bieber's success went to his head, too soon, too much.

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I don't know how the hell you got that from his post.

I think the point is that Hillary, like all of these professional politicians, lies continuously about subjects both big and small. When they get caught, they lie even more.

Hillary lies about if she was issued a subpoena or not.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...linton-caught-lie-benghazi-subpoena/?page=all


Hillary lies about being shot at by snipers :

"And I remember landing under sniper fire, there was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base. But it was a moment of great pride for me.”

http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/11/n...lies-and-her-fake-sniper-story/#ixzz3izveXrcF


Hillary says her daughter was jogging around the WTC on 9/11 and just happened to duck into a coffee shop. This is what Chelsea said :

"But Chelsea told Talk Magazine that she was in a friend’s apartment four miles from ground zero when the first plane hit. Her friend called her, waking her up, and told her to turn on the TV. On television, she saw the second plane hit, disproving Hillary’s claim that “she heard the plane hit. She heard it. She did.”"

http://www.dickmorris.com/hillarys-other-fabrication/

She lies about everything, then lies about her lies. And she does it with a facial and body language that exudes conviction, even outrage, as easily as a normal person drinks water.

Oh and what maybe you were obtusely referring to - yeah she lied about being dead broke when leaving the white house as well.

I could go on and on. This just touches the surface.

And this is what you want for president?

Maybe more succinctly, you believe you know what Hillary thinks about anything??

"As Secretary of State back in 2012, Hillary Clinton was a strong proponent of a free trade agreement known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership (otherwise known as TPP), consisting of 12 nations. It’s common sense that free trade is beneficial to our economy, so much so that even President Obama supports it. Hillary, on the other hand, cannot afford to lose a single voter as she gears up for 2016, so she conveniently changed her views on the matter. With various unions upset over the TPP, Hillary’s campaign office recently suggested that she will no longer be supporting the TPP that she once advocated so passionately for."

Here's something a lot closer to truth - Hillary "believes" whatever she thinks will at that moment get her the most votes.

Bernie Madoff would be a better choice.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I don't know how the hell you got that from his post.

I think the point is that Hillary, like all of these professional politicians, lies continuously about subjects both big and small. When they get caught, they lie even more.

Hillary lies about if she was issued a subpoena or not.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...linton-caught-lie-benghazi-subpoena/?page=all


Hillary lies about being shot at by snipers :

"And I remember landing under sniper fire, there was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base. But it was a moment of great pride for me.”

http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/11/n...lies-and-her-fake-sniper-story/#ixzz3izveXrcF


Hillary says her daughter was jogging around the WTC on 9/11 and just happened to duck into a coffee shop. This is what Chelsea said :

"But Chelsea told Talk Magazine that she was in a friend’s apartment four miles from ground zero when the first plane hit. Her friend called her, waking her up, and told her to turn on the TV. On television, she saw the second plane hit, disproving Hillary’s claim that “she heard the plane hit. She heard it. She did.”"

http://www.dickmorris.com/hillarys-other-fabrication/

She lies about everything, then lies about her lies. And she does it with a facial and body language that exudes conviction, even outrage, as easily as a normal person drinks water.

Oh and what maybe you were obtusely referring to - yeah she lied about being dead broke when leaving the white house as well.

I could go on and on. This just touches the surface.

And this is what you want for president?

Maybe more succinctly, you believe you know what Hillary thinks about anything??

"As Secretary of State back in 2012, Hillary Clinton was a strong proponent of a free trade agreement known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership (otherwise known as TPP), consisting of 12 nations. It’s common sense that free trade is beneficial to our economy, so much so that even President Obama supports it. Hillary, on the other hand, cannot afford to lose a single voter as she gears up for 2016, so she conveniently changed her views on the matter. With various unions upset over the TPP, Hillary’s campaign office recently suggested that she will no longer be supporting the TPP that she once advocated so passionately for."

Here's something a lot closer to truth - Hillary "believes" whatever she thinks will at that moment get her the most votes.

Bernie Madoff would be a better choice.

Like I said -- it's a "Prisoner's Dilemma." Not all the Dem irons are in the fire yet, and there's not been a single debate. Only volleys across the bow between Hill and Jebby.

Mark Twain wrote a story -- entitled something like "the Grand Masters." In it, he argues that we're all "Grand Masters" of the artful lie.

So I could say I get a couple things from the Clintons with this spin. Motives? It matters if they get elected or re-elected.

The Washington Times has a history that goes way back to the Nixon era. I began to notice in the '90s that they were editorializing their news-stories on the front page.

I remember a friend who voted for Bush in 2000. His whole premise for choosing Bush over Gore? "Clinton lied! He lied!" This was about the matter of what is defined as "sex" in the DC jurisdiction.

So, I wish they could find a candidate without the baggage. But the baggage is like a scene from a Carlos Castenada book: eat the mushrooms; see a fly the size of an elephant.

In a way, at least some of these are straw-man lies. Benghazi: four dead. Iraq War: Nearly 4,500 dead, excluding Iraqis. Benghazi was no more nor less of a gamble than putting 200 Marines in a Beirut barracks.

If Benghazi was an opportunity, it was an opportunity to midwife someone else's lie -- if there even was one.

And the e-mails? Look at the situation: many, many e-mails would've been on the State Department's server anyway, since there is both a sender's IP and mail server, and a receiver's servers. Who is pushing this? The NRA?! The Star?! Semantics, about e-mails, security, and so on.

Meanwhile, one GOP candidate defends Edward Snowden. What happened after the flight to Hong Kong and then Russia? We don't know. What happened after papers and thumb files were turned over to the Guardian? We don't know. We DO know that there have been a sequence of cyber attacks on corporations and the government since then.

So tell me. I want to know about Little Lies and Big Lies. And I want to know who really wants to run the show again, since "The Last Picture Show" was such a failure. [If not from the fictional "Anarene," then from Crawford.]

The last eight years remind me of a scene from Eastwood's "Unforegiven." "Little Bill" Hackman has this bullwhip, and "Ned" Morgan Freeman is tied to the bars of a cell: "When your lies . . . aren't the same as her lies . . . I'm gonna hurt you . . . I'm gonna hurt you bad."

 

[werepossum]

I don't know how the hell you got that from his post.

I think the point is that Hillary, like all of these professional politicians, lies continuously about subjects both big and small. When they get caught, they lie even more.

Hillary lies about if she was issued a subpoena or not.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...linton-caught-lie-benghazi-subpoena/?page=all


Hillary lies about being shot at by snipers :

"And I remember landing under sniper fire, there was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base. But it was a moment of great pride for me.”

http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/11/n...lies-and-her-fake-sniper-story/#ixzz3izveXrcF


Hillary says her daughter was jogging around the WTC on 9/11 and just happened to duck into a coffee shop. This is what Chelsea said :

"But Chelsea told Talk Magazine that she was in a friend’s apartment four miles from ground zero when the first plane hit. Her friend called her, waking her up, and told her to turn on the TV. On television, she saw the second plane hit, disproving Hillary’s claim that “she heard the plane hit. She heard it. She did.”"

http://www.dickmorris.com/hillarys-other-fabrication/

She lies about everything, then lies about her lies. And she does it with a facial and body language that exudes conviction, even outrage, as easily as a normal person drinks water.

Oh and what maybe you were obtusely referring to - yeah she lied about being dead broke when leaving the white house as well.

I could go on and on. This just touches the surface.

And this is what you want for president?

Maybe more succinctly, you believe you know what Hillary thinks about anything??

"As Secretary of State back in 2012, Hillary Clinton was a strong proponent of a free trade agreement known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership (otherwise known as TPP), consisting of 12 nations. It’s common sense that free trade is beneficial to our economy, so much so that even President Obama supports it. Hillary, on the other hand, cannot afford to lose a single voter as she gears up for 2016, so she conveniently changed her views on the matter. With various unions upset over the TPP, Hillary’s campaign office recently suggested that she will no longer be supporting the TPP that she once advocated so passionately for."

Here's something a lot closer to truth - Hillary "believes" whatever she thinks will at that moment get her the most votes.

Bernie Madoff would be a better choice.

Well said. Still, it's worth remembering that they are all liars, including Trump. We require it of politicians above the local or perhaps state level. Hillary is just their queen.

On the other hand, Sanders and to a lesser extent Kasich are unusually honest for politicians seriously running for President.

 

[PlanetJosh]

I meant to add I think I'm in the evil category considering that on these forums and others on the net I've supported civil war in the U.S. and wouldn't mind if WW3 happened soon. Again nothing illegal on my part. I haven't planned a civil war with anyone. That in itself is illegal. I just advocated civil war in posts.