Supreme Court: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

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Amused

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Learn the definition between arms and ordinance. This over-the-top counter by anti-gun nuts is debunked over and over again. All that shit you rattled off at the end would be ordinance, not arms.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M9_pistol

"The M9 pistol, formally Pistol, Semiautomatic, 9mm, M9, is a 9x19mm Parabellum pistol of the United States military adopted in 1985. It is basically a military specification Beretta 92F, later the 92FS."


And for Revolutionary War pistols..

http://revolutionarywarantiques.com/Revolutionary-War-Pistols

Will the ownage never end???
 

Craig234

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This isn't even funny, it's actually sad. Despite your joyful wallowing in your own ignorance, and your persistence in projectile-vomiting it all through this thread, you still are a voter. The knowledge of the voting populace is the greatest defense of liberty, and I suspect you are well-educated in a sense... but somewhere, you took a wrong turn. Where, Craig, where?

Not a bit of actual argument in your post, not any facts, not any logic, all you can say is "Poopyhead". You're wasting the time of the reader with such an empty post.
 

Amused

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Not a bit of actual argument in your post, not any facts, not any logic, all you can say is "Poopyhead". You're wasting the time of the reader with such an empty post.

DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT!!!

You haven't even made a valid argument. I destroyed your argument and you refused to even address it.

Instead when someone hands you your ass, you cry like a bitch and declare you will not talk to them anymore.

You're the living image of a child with their fingers in their ears screaming " LALALALA I DON'T HEAR YOU LALALALA!!!
 

MotF Bane

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Not a bit of actual argument in your post, not any facts, not any logic, all you can say is "Poopyhead". You're wasting the time of the reader with such an empty post.

Nick already gave you the facts; the facts that were available if you spent 30 seconds searching the Internet for the answers. But you couldn't be bothered to spend that little bit of time, you'd much rather rage against firearms without actual facts. And no, "poopyhead" was not my word, but apparently that's the limit of your intellect. I feel sorry for you, Craig.
 

MotF Bane

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DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT!!!

You haven't even made a valid argument. I destroyed your argument and you refused to even address it.

Instead when someone hands you your ass, you cry like a bitch and declare you will not talk to them anymore.

You're the living image of a child with their fingers in their ears screaming " LALALALA I DON'T HEAR YOU LALALALA!!!

*shrug* Hey, he proved he doesn't have me on ignore... he just usually ignores my arguments anyways, as he seems to be ignoring yours now. :awe:
 

Craig234

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*shrug* Hey, he proved he doesn't have me on ignore... he just usually ignores my arguments anyways, as he seems to be ignoring yours now. :awe:

I've never learned how to use the board 'ignore', there are just people for good reason I no longer read.

You were one, occasionally I give people another chance or accidentally read their posts. It doesn't 'prove' what I think you think it did.

See above post for my comment to Amused when I stopped reading him in this thread. I may or may not give him another chance at some point.

But don't lie and imply that someone getting ignored has a thing to do with their making a good argument, quite the opposite.

The most valuable post in a forum is probably one that disagrees with you and influences your opinion - for someone with an interest in the truth, not blindly spewing.
 

spidey07

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Don't let Craig sidetrack this thread. He has posted nothing that had anything to do with this ruling. Nothing but distractions from this monumental ruling.
 

BoberFett

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I find it hilarious that desperate people who piss their pants at the thought of a gun still cling to the whole "militia" argument.

Do you really think that the people who wrote the Constitution needed an amendment to protect the government's own right to own firearms? And that they thought it was a good idea to mix it in with a bunch of other rights that belonged to the people?

Really?

 

Kirby

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*shrug* Hey, he proved he doesn't have me on ignore... he just usually ignores my arguments anyways, as he seems to be ignoring yours now. :awe:

He ignores any argument that goes against his authoritarian bullshit. I think he just posts for his own amusement, everyone can see him for what he is.

He's no better than dinosaur riding young earth creationist. Logic and reason disintegrates into sticking his fingers in his ears and screaming, "NAH NAH NAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!"

So Craig,

 

JSt0rm

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well lets try the everyone owns a gun thing as see what happens. If crime goes down then crime goes down.
 

drebo

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well lets try the everyone owns a gun thing as see what happens. If crime goes down then crime goes down.

Would you try to snatch a purse if you knew everyone around was packing? Would you break into a house if you knew the homeowners had guns? Would you pull a gun in a bank if you knew everyone there would turn you into swiss cheese?

Seriously, gun violence isn't going to go away when you take guns out of legal citizens' hands, it's going to get worse. Criminals aren't going to give up their guns just because some politician tells them to. Instead, they're going to be even more effective because they'll know noone else has them.

The answer to gun-related accidents and violence is education. Teach everyone how to use guns and you won't have accidents.
 
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Would you try to snatch a purse if you knew everyone around was packing? Would you break into a house if you knew the homeowners had guns? Would you pull a gun in a bank if you knew everyone there would turn you into swiss cheese?

Seriously, gun violence isn't going to go away when you take guns out of legal citizens' hands, it's going to get worse. Criminals aren't going to give up their guns just because some politician tells them to. Instead, they're going to be even more effective because they'll know noone else has them.

The answer to gun-related accidents and violence is education. Teach everyone how to use guns and you won't have accidents.

Won't have 'as many' accidents. Be reasonable. There will ALWAYS be some, no matter what.
 

shira

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Remember when you made an ignorant anti-gun claim, then I refuted it with facts...then you came back into the thread not to offer a rebuttal to the facts, but instead to personally attack those who you disagree with?

That was funny.
You didn't refute anything, and I didn't "come back into the thread." I, unlike you semi-unemployed right-wing fools who get paid for doing nothing, actually spend my work day working.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Not a bit of actual argument in your post, not any facts, not any logic, all you can say is "Poopyhead". You're wasting the time of the reader with such an empty post.


Actually Amused kicked your ass when he posted what the Founders intended.

BTW, do you know there is no separation of church and state? You won't find it in the Constitution. It exists largely because of something Jefferson wrote and that was interpreted as intent for the Constitution.

Oh my we must correct that!

So how shall we tear down that concept that by your reasoning must go?

Oh, it only works for your agenda, eh?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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You didn't refute anything, and I didn't "come back into the thread." I, unlike you semi-unemployed right-wing fools who get paid for doing nothing, actually spend my work day working.


That's an awesome comeback! So which mandated religious services with Craig will you be attending? Oh it could be a synagogue or mosque. We can't have a state endorsed religion. You just have to pick one. Craig says the government has that right.
 

Craig234

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That's an awesome comeback! So which mandated religious services with Craig will you be attending? Oh it could be a synagogue or mosque. We can't have a state endorsed religion. You just have to pick one. Craig says the government has that right.

I saw that you had posted, and came to see, was this one of your better posts you sometimes make, or one of your demented radical nonsense posts. It was a lie, turns out.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Your position is clear Craig, you just don't know what it is.

Let me help.

You took words out of context and ran with them. Amused responded with the thoughts of those who actually wrote the amendment, which you ignored, but went on to define for us what it meant.

Well then, if you are going to ignore what the founders wrote and stick to your "militia" theory, then let's extend that to the separation of church and state. It doesn't exist and there is no legal justification for it. Religious involvement isn't prohibited in government and in fact as written it could be far more extensive than it is.

Well it's not and it's because it was decided that long ago that the founders didn't want that interference. How? by looking at what the writers of the Constitution felt from reading other things that they had written.

Clearly, the founders felt that individual citizens ought to have the right to have firearms. You dismiss that, however I'd bet that if the Republicans had taken that attitude with religion and expanded it far beyond what had even been considered, you'd have a fit.

Well so would I, but then again I'm not a hypocrite.

You embrace one position to justify your wants, then would dismiss the same means that someone else wants.


That sums it up, to you the ends justify the means, and that's why you are continually hammered on. Adding word upon word, and insult on top of insult does not change what you do, and no amount of obfuscation hides it.
 

Zebo

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Otis McDonald will get his gun.

Supreme Court ruling casts doubt on Chicago gun ban Weapon registration, firearms training possible in new law Editorial: A chance for gun law that does some good Roeper: Good riddance to gun ban that wasn't working

"This is great. I am so happy," McDonald said from Washington, D.C. "It's a milestone."

McDonald, the son of Louisiana sharecroppers, said he got emotional as the ruling came down.

"I was feeling the poor blacks who years ago had their guns taken away from them and were killed as someone wished. That was a long time ago, but I feel their spirit. That's what I was feeling in the courtroom," he said.

The 76-year old said the Supreme Court ruling will make Chicago blocks like his that are overrun with thugs safer places to live.

"If you have the right to have a handgun in your house, even if you don't have a gun, that will give criminals a second thought, a third thought about breaking into your house," McDonald said.

McDonald's co-plaintiff in the landmark case, Colleen Lawson, had this message for criminals: The "Chicago crime buffet is over" -- warning gun-toting thugs that city residents aren't their prey.

McDonald says he's not a hero of the pro-gun lobby.

"I'm just plain, little Otis. I'm doing the best I can to make right a wrong. And I've done that," he said.

 
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