Supreme Court: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

[daishi5]

Re: Bolded portion above

IIRC, I saw that in the court's opinion (the dissent) but I don't find it in the Constitution/Bill of Rights.

Here's the 6th:



Fern

The right to a unanimous conviction may be an interpretation of the amendment not outright stated in the amendment. Just like the right to an abortion is not stated in the 4th. And there is no statement guaranteeing a parent can teach their child any language they wish, but those rights apparently come from the first 8 Amendments.

I am just clarifying that I think Craig is wrong when he states that the rights in the Bill of Rights are protected against state usurpation, just a patchwork of them are, and some of the exceptions are strange. The Justices mention that most people thought what Craig thought even back in 1866, when the Bill of Rights did not affect states at all, and it has just gotten more confusing over time.

 

[Craig234]

I am just clarifying that I think Craig is wrong when he states that the rights in the Bill of Rights are protected against state usurpation, just a patchwork of them are, and some of the exceptions are strange. The Justices mention that most people thought what Craig thought even back in 1866, when the Bill of Rights did not affect states at all, and it has just gotten more confusing over time.

You seem to have misread my post, where I said that's how I'd like it to work, but it doesn't.

While I agree not all are binding on the states, nearly all seem to be, as I linked.

We do seem to agree from your previous post that we'd prefer that they are all binding on the states as a matter of federalism, not the 14th being needed for it.

Talk about 'legislating from the bench', coming up with rules which ones to make binding on states.

Really, if they're not going to simply do it as federalism, how much do they have to torture the 14th to get this? That poor abused amendment.

How ironic it is that an effect of slavery is the 14th amendment, which has empowered corporations so much as to partly enslave the American people's power.

If we hadn't had slavery, we wouldn't have the legal doctrine of corporations as persons who can dominate the political system that hurts the public even now.

 

[Amused]

You seem to have misread my post, where I said that's how I'd like it to work, but it doesn't.

While I agree not all are binding on the states, nearly all seem to be, as I linked.

We do seem to agree from your previous post that we'd prefer that they are all binding on the states as a matter of federalism, not the 14th being needed for it.

Talk about 'legislating from the bench', coming up with rules which ones to make binding on states.

Really, if they're not going to simply do it as federalism, how much do they have to torture the 14th to get this? That poor abused amendment.

How ironic it is that an effect of slavery is the 14th amendment, which has empowered corporations so much as to partly enslave the American people's power.

If we hadn't had slavery, we wouldn't have the legal doctrine of corporations as persons who can dominate the political system that hurts the public even now.

Wow. Not only have you been consistantly wrong in this thread, now you can't even stay on topic while spewing your leftist talking points.

 

[BoberFett]

He's really diving deep into his bag of tricks. Lying, obfuscation, non sequiturs. This thread is Craig gold.

 

[Amused]

He's really diving deep into his bag of tricks. Lying, obfuscation, non sequiturs. This thread is Craig gold.

His response to my handing him his ass:

 

[BoberFett]

He always does that. I'm on his ignore list because I didn't agree with him. He's the biggest baby this forum has ever seen, and it has seen some big ones.

 

[nick1985]

And Boss Daley comes out swinging!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38061266/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?gt1=43001


Here are some snippets:

— Limits the number of handguns residents can register to one per month and prohibit residents from having more than one handgun in operating order at any given time.


Yeah, that will reduce crime! Basically, only 1 person at a time can defend their home from a home invasion with a handgun. 2nd amendment violation.


— Requires prospective gun owners to take a four-hour class and one-hour training at a gun range. They would have to leave the city for training because Chicago prohibits new gun ranges and limits the use of existing ranges to police officers. Those restrictions were similar to those in an ordinance passed in Washington, D.C., after the high court struck down its ban two years ago.


lol....


— Calls for the police department to maintain a registry of every handgun owner in the city, with the names and addresses to be made available to police officers, firefighters and other emergency responders.






Oh, I almost forgot

The 45-0 vote came four days after a Supreme Court ruling made it almost certain that Chicago's handgun ban would be overturned.

Chicago Democrats REALLY REALLY REALLY hate that fucking 2nd amendment.

 

[jhbball]

Wow. Not only have you been consistantly wrong in this thread, now you can't even stay on topic while spewing your leftist talking points.

Your icon is both ironic, and retarded. BTW, Craig owns your shit.

 

[nick1985]

Your icon is both ironic, and retarded. BTW, Craig owns your shit.

How did Craig own anything? He looked like a fool throughout the entire thread.

 

[Amused]

Your icon is both ironic, and retarded. BTW, Craig owns your shit.

Please explain, in detail and with valid logic and references just how craig "owns my shit."

Because by any standard of debate, craig had his ass handed to him over and over again in this thread.

 

[spidey07]

Time to sue the city of chicago for millions for obvious civil rights violations.

 

[nick1985]

Please explain, in detail and with valid logic and refernces just how craig "owns my shit."

Because by any standard of debate, craig had his ass handed to him over and over again in this thread.

jhbball wont. All he ever does is poke his head into threads, launch some personal attacks, and then bail out.


He is just another dumbass gun-grabbing "progressive" with no respect for the rights granted to the people in the Bill of Rights, or for the Constitution as a whole for that matter.

 

[Amused]

Time to sue the city of chicago for millions for obvious civil rights violations.

Bingo!

 

[Kirby]

And Boss Daley comes out swinging!

*snip*

Chicago Democrats REALLY REALLY REALLY hate that fucking 2nd amendment.

Not to support vigilantism (at least not yet and hopefully never comes to it), but a politician would get fucking assassinated for that pulling shit around here.

 

[nick1985]

Not to support vigilantism (at least not yet and hopefully never comes to it), but a politician would get fucking assassinated for that pulling shit around here.

Boss Daley knows whats best for us dumb citizens.

 

[daishi5]

Not to support vigilantism (at least not yet and hopefully never comes to it), but a politician would get fucking assassinated for that pulling shit around here.

Chicago is a strange place. I was attending a conference and had left some of my targets in my trunk. When the guy at the hotel saw that I had pistol targets in my trunk, he started treating me like I seconds from going postal. It was weird because he was obviously trying to shield himself with my one small piece of luggage as if I would pull out a gun and start shooting at any moment.

 

[waggy]

Chicago is a strange place. I was attending a conference and had left some of my targets in my trunk. When the guy at the hotel saw that I had pistol targets in my trunk, he started treating me like I seconds from going postal. It was weird because he was obviously trying to shield himself with my one small piece of luggage as if I would pull out a gun and start shooting at any moment.

lol yeah Chicago is fucked up. BUT its not just demacrats! this is going to go back to court and they are going to lose again (i hope).

they are making it to hard and expensive to own a gun in city limits.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Wow. Chicago almost sounds worse than San Francisco... LOL.