"Surburban Survivalists"

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I have guns. So I can take what I need from all of the lefties without them.

Sez the Weenie most likely to be killed and eaten by his own troops.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I have guns. So I can take what I need from all of the lefties without them.

I can just see you checking for party registration cards to decide who you kill / steal from. Talk about taking team sport mentality to the extreme.

No. If I approach someone and they have an assault rifle I will leave them alone. If I approach someone and they offer me a hug and an apology for Obama ending the world. I'll shoot them and take their stuff.

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I have guns. So I can take what I need from all of the lefties without them.

I can just see you checking for party registration cards to decide who you kill / steal from. Talk about taking team sport mentality to the extreme.

No. If I approach someone and they have an assault rifle I will leave them alone. If I approach someone and they offer me a hug and an apology for Obama ending the world. I'll shoot them and take their stuff.

Thats a Great moral compass "conservatism" has provided you

 

[Kwatt]

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Funny this comes out because I have a friend who picked up this hobby almost a year ago... not hardcore, but definitely "prepared."

Crisis spurs spike in 'suburban survivalists'

How prepared are you if things go bad fast?

Me? I would say better off than the average joe. Being an outdoorsman means I have plenty of ammo, food, and supplies, yet not much in terms of long term planning and sustainment. I am thinking about getting more serious about it though.

All in all I think stocking up is a good thing. If the stockpiles are needed because of disaster the people stockpiling will not be out looking for supplies. They will be staying at home keeping watch over what they have. = Less competition for the rest of us. If the stockpiles are needed due to personal disaster like a loss of income. It will be like having a cash fund that is inflation protected. Rising prices don't affect the groceries in the cupboard.

Even if the stockpiles are not needed they have boosted the economy by buying them.
If you rotate your stock you are better able to take advantage of sales and special offers. Saving money in the long run.

I don't see a down side.

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[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Who the heck needs to store food when you have an assault rifle?

On the other hand anybody who has bothered to store food/supplies will most likely have an assault rifle.

 

[spidey07]

Got plenty of ammo, and food. Could use more fuel. Most cities/communities are just one extended power outage from complete breakdown. If you've ever seen how desperate and panicky people are after the first day or two without power it really wakes up your eyes.

Girl is also learning how to can so we can preserve food.

Once the water pumps shut down (from no power) then people REALLY panic.

 

[Moonbeam]

This whole matter is understandable if you know something about what is really going on with people.

Here are the facts in this matter:

1. Everybody was put down as a child and taught to hate himself.

2. The pain from self hate is so great that it can't be allowed to stay in conscious awareness.

3. The sleep or emotional deadness that is required to keep the pain bottled up leads to a deadness in ordinary life. We died as children.

4. The deadness suppresses a craving for life but cannot destroy it. Thus we are split inside and live in inner conflict, doubt, self loathing, and uncertainty, etc. We have become insane and in denial.

5. Since we having shut the door on the voluntary road back to real life, remembering what really happened to us, we have nothing left but our deadness and self hate and longing which leak out of our being unconsciously as a desire for a surrogate, vicarious life. We imagine we are heroes in games and fantasy, survivalists in a mean world.

6. We actually seek our own destruction so as to get back to the feeling that we were destroyed. Our lives are a desire to recreate our childhood trauma. We hate ourselves and seek our own destruction, the end of the world, which day by day we bring closer with our insanity.

7. We are fools who know, unconsciously what we are doing, but we imagine we will survive with our survivalist skills.
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Poor sad sleeping humanity fills chock full of hubris. Poor sad fools we are. Our hate for ourselves gets projected out on the world as the hate of the other, the other on whom our survival depends.

There is only one way to survive and that is to awaken. Good luck to you.

 

[senseamp]

I got a few nutrition bars in the garage for biking, and a bottle of Cipro left form trip to China
If I want to get my survivalist juices flowing, I just go for a long mountain bike ride in the woods, not to Home Depot for a generator.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Who the heck needs to store food when you have an assault rifle?

On the other hand anybody who has bothered to store food/supplies will most likely have an assault rifle.

Not the people I know who are storing food...

 

[MotF Bane]

Can we lock Fear No Evil and Moonbeam in a room together?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I have guns. So I can take what I need from all of the lefties without them.

I can just see you checking for party registration cards to decide who you kill / steal from. Talk about taking team sport mentality to the extreme.

No. If I approach someone and they have an assault rifle I will leave them alone. If I approach someone and they offer me a hug and an apology for Obama ending the world. I'll shoot them and take their stuff.

Thats a Great moral compass "conservatism" has provided you

Don't blame Conservatism for his childish fantasies and lack of common sense.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: Fear No EvilNo. If I approach someone and they have an assault rifle I will leave them alone. If I approach someone and they offer me a hug and an apology for Obama ending the world. I'll shoot them and take their stuff.

You're blaming Obama for all of this? He's barely been in office for 100 days! If you're going to start doling out blame, look to the Bush Administration and previous administrations first for getting us into this mess in the first place.

I don't think Obama understands our nation's economic problems (Global Labor Arbitrage, Population Explosion, failure to address the problems of poverty) and I expect that he'll make things worse (Illegal Alien Amnesty), but he is far from being primarily responsible for our nation's current economic malaise.

 

[BoberFett]

A generator is kind of a silly survival tool in my opinion. If the lack of power is temporary, you can live without electricity for a couple days. If the power outage is long term, then gas transport has likely stopped as well, and a generator is worthless. Anyone who is truly planning for the end of society would do better to stock up with a wood burning stove.

But stockpiling in general seems like a waste of resources to me. If you need more than a week or two of food, then chances are you should GTFO of Dodge and go someplace that does have food. If no place has food because it's really the end of the world, then a month or two of food isn't going to do much for you. You're eventually going to need to hunt and forage, so what difference does it make if you're doing that right away or in after two months? Since most people live in population centers without lots of access to wild game they will have to move anyway, so what good does the food reserve do?

Personally, in the event of the end of the world, I'd pack up the family truckster and get as close to middle America as possible. Survival in the great white north is nasty business without modern infrastructure. Missouri might be a good area, still plenty of open space, mild weather that's never too hot or too cold, could be near the Mississippi. Also, while other people are fighting over the grocery store, I'd hit the library. Temporary food stores are meaningless, knowledge is the key to survival. Field manuals, plant and animal guides, medical books; there are tons of reference materials one would find useful.

 

[Red Irish]

The "hunting knife fitted with a compass" trade is clearly a niche market; however, given today's economic situation you crazy people should probably be congratulated for keeping a few companies in business . Not to mention your contributions to the baked beans and corned beef sectors. I left the boy scouts behind when I stopped being a boy, but, we each have our own peculiar habits and I suppose that, apart from threatening to shoot other people with assault rifles, you do no harm.

Hope you all survive.

 

[mstersmith]

I have yet to see anyone mention physical fitness yet. Can you run five miles? How about ruck 20 miles with fifty pounds on your back plus water and ammo? Eventually you will be forced to leave the bat cave and survive on your own merits. Ever watch survivor man? Check out how sick he gets all the time. That?s no joke. He is in fairly good conditioning but I think he does a lot of harm to himself by not allowing for a full recovery. It is very easy to get sick and catch dysentery. Ever gotten the craps in the field, try having both ends explode. I took six bags in two hours once, worse day of my life. Last time I forget to wash my hands in the field. All the equipment in the world meens squat if you are a fat, middle aged suburbanite. Your body probably wont tolerate that kind of living for long.

 

[mxyzptlk]

I plan on joining the zombie hoard as soon as possible. I'll be feasting on brains while the rest of you losers are huddled together in your little "forts" awaiting the inevitable.

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
A generator is kind of a silly survival tool in my opinion. If the lack of power is temporary, you can live without electricity for a couple days. If the power outage is long term, then gas transport has likely stopped as well, and a generator is worthless. Anyone who is truly planning for the end of society would do better to stock up with a wood burning stove.

But stockpiling in general seems like a waste of resources to me. If you need more than a week or two of food, then chances are you should GTFO of Dodge and go someplace that does have food. If no place has food because it's really the end of the world, then a month or two of food isn't going to do much for you. You're eventually going to need to hunt and forage, so what difference does it make if you're doing that right away or in after two months? Since most people live in population centers without lots of access to wild game they will have to move anyway, so what good does the food reserve do?

Personally, in the event of the end of the world, I'd pack up the family truckster and get as close to middle America as possible. Survival in the great white north is nasty business without modern infrastructure. Missouri might be a good area, still plenty of open space, mild weather that's never too hot or too cold, could be near the Mississippi. Also, while other people are fighting over the grocery store, I'd hit the library. Temporary food stores are meaningless, knowledge is the key to survival. Field manuals, plant and animal guides, medical books; there are tons of reference materials one would find useful.

I agree with you 100%. I personally know of a nice little hidden area in Appalachia away from society that has everthing one needs to survive off of the land.

 

[herm0016]

Originally posted by: mstersmith
I have yet to see anyone mention physical fitness yet. Can you run five miles? How about ruck 20 miles with fifty pounds on your back plus water and ammo? Eventually you will be forced to leave the bat cave and survive on your own merits. Ever watch survivor man? Check out how sick he gets all the time. That?s no joke. He is in fairly good conditioning but I think he does a lot of harm to himself by not allowing for a full recovery. It is very easy to get sick and catch dysentery. Ever gotten the craps in the field, try having both ends explode. I took six bags in two hours once, worse day of my life. Last time I forget to wash my hands in the field. All the equipment in the world meens squat if you are a fat, middle aged suburbanite. Your body probably wont tolerate that kind of living for long.

i also think this is important. being in shape is probably one of the best survival skills.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Personally, in the event of the end of the world, I'd pack up the family truckster and get as close to middle America as possible. Survival in the great white north is nasty business without modern infrastructure. Missouri might be a good area, still plenty of open space, mild weather that's never too hot or too cold, could be near the Mississippi. Also, while other people are fighting over the grocery store, I'd hit the library. Temporary food stores are meaningless, knowledge is the key to survival. Field manuals, plant and animal guides, medical books; there are tons of reference materials one would find useful.

Really good point and why I normally have books for things like that.

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: BoberFett
A generator is kind of a silly survival tool in my opinion. If the lack of power is temporary, you can live without electricity for a couple days. If the power outage is long term, then gas transport has likely stopped as well, and a generator is worthless. Anyone who is truly planning for the end of society would do better to stock up with a wood burning stove.

But stockpiling in general seems like a waste of resources to me. If you need more than a week or two of food, then chances are you should GTFO of Dodge and go someplace that does have food. If no place has food because it's really the end of the world, then a month or two of food isn't going to do much for you. You're eventually going to need to hunt and forage, so what difference does it make if you're doing that right away or in after two months? Since most people live in population centers without lots of access to wild game they will have to move anyway, so what good does the food reserve do?

Personally, in the event of the end of the world, I'd pack up the family truckster and get as close to middle America as possible. Survival in the great white north is nasty business without modern infrastructure. Missouri might be a good area, still plenty of open space, mild weather that's never too hot or too cold, could be near the Mississippi. Also, while other people are fighting over the grocery store, I'd hit the library. Temporary food stores are meaningless, knowledge is the key to survival. Field manuals, plant and animal guides, medical books; there are tons of reference materials one would find useful.

I agree with you 100%. I personally know of a nice little hidden area in Appalachia away from society that has everthing one needs to survive off of the land.

Bobber, you won't get a better invitation than that on this thread.

 

[senseamp]

This is modern day duck and cover. Also, if I was survivalist stockpiling goods, last thing I'd do is go on TV and brag about it, so that everyone knows who to rob.

 

[Nebor]

The most important thing that most movie-fantasy surivalists (Fear No Evil) forget about is other people. A close knit team of like-minded survivors dedicated to the cause of staying alive and possessing the skills and dedication to do so. Years ago a small group of my fraternity brothers who shared similar interests (firearms, survival, fieldcraft) got together and decided we wouldn't be left out in the cold if things ever went south. As time has passed and our means have grown, so have our preparations. Another foolish movie-fantasy mistake is detailing your preparations to anyone outside your group, that's how you get 30 people like Fear No Evil tracking you down when things look bad.

Of course, now I'm in the Army, so in the event of any sort of crisis I'll be one of the first to die due to poor management, stupid planning and an unprepared domestic defense infrastructure.

 

[JTsyo]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
There are two basic scenarios to plan for:
Sh*t hits the fan (SHTF) - short term disruption of your lifestyle - more or less what happened with Katrina
The end of the world as we know it (TOTWAWKI) - Majority of population is dead, likely no electricity or any other infrastructure.

I just added the term TOTWAWKI to my lexicon.

To read about people who are preparing for TOTWAWKI, go visit the http://www.peakoil.com discussion forum. They have an entire forum area that's more or less dedicated to that (Planning for the Future).

What happened to the E from end?

Those they just depend on guns to survive, how long can it keep you alive? How many can it feed each day? If you truly wanted to be prepared you would have some land in the mid-west. You would have a plan to get you family and maybe some close friends over there. You would depend on the guns to defend these lands and farm the land. Trying to to live in the suburbs or urban areas is just silly, not matter how much ammo you stockpile.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Who the heck needs to store food when you have an assault rifle?

The only thing you can eat on that is a bullet, though.

Got plenty of ammo, and food. Could use more fuel. Most cities/communities are just one extended power outage from complete breakdown. If you've ever seen how desperate and panicky people are after the first day or two without power it really wakes up your eyes.

Girl is also learning how to can so we can preserve food.

Once the water pumps shut down (from no power) then people REALLY panic.

I agree with this. Suburban survivalists are not necessarily talking about end-times, but even a decent calamity/small war/huge series of terrorist attacks could really drag any city down on its ass and it would be much nicer sitting at home eating canned peaches than walking five miles to a food kitchen and standing in line with the rest of the schmucks.

A generator is kind of a silly survival tool in my opinion. If the lack of power is temporary, you can live without electricity for a couple days. If the power outage is long term, then gas transport has likely stopped as well, and a generator is worthless. Anyone who is truly planning for the end of society would do better to stock up with a wood burning stove.

Not to mention nothing says come steal my sh*t because I have lots like a working generator.

Field manuals, plant and animal guides, medical books; there are tons of reference materials one would find useful.

I mentioned that to my dad in a book store a couple of weeks ago. The huge army training manual would be worth its weight in gold

Really, though, as recently as WWII england had severe rationing going on. Stocking up on food would help mitigate the pain of that kind of thing.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: smashp ~ ~ ~

I agree with you 100%. I personally know of a nice little hidden area in Appalachia away from society that has everthing one needs to survive off of the land.

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