tsupersonic
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It's awesome for reading PDF's and the like since you have more text on screen compared to landscape mode.Yeah, but who's actually using a Surface in portrait very often?
It's awesome for reading PDF's and the like since you have more text on screen compared to landscape mode.Yeah, but who's actually using a Surface in portrait very often?
It's awesome for reading PDF's and the like since you have more text on screen compared to landscape mode.
Yeah, but who's actually using a Surface in portrait very often?
Nice.Just in case anyone was wondering about an artist's view on the surface pro 3...
http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2014/05/23/surface-pro-3
Does all i7 have Iris Pro? How much graphics performance increase is the Iris over HD?
With all cores and hyper threading active, it runs at 1.7ghz, the i5 runs at 1.9ghz.
I still hold that the primary think holding back the Surface line is software.
Microsoft desperately needs to get out from under Windows 8. I know Windows 9 (aka Threshold) is around the corner and will address a lot of concerns, but it can't come soon enough. They need to figure out a more elegant way to switch from different modalities without completely jarring the user. They are close, IMHO, but not quite there yet.
Yup. Every time I hit desktop tile on my Surface Pro I drop it to the floor and retreat under the nearest table to cradle my knees to my chest. It's so jarring.
That's fine too. I usually read PDF's or ebooks on my SP2. Why not, right? Microsoft wants to sell it as a tablet, right? I usually lay in bed with the device in portrait mode, I find that form nicer to hold/more comfortable. Most of my usage of the SP2 is just internet browsing. I don't do much productivity on this device (although I do have a type cover 2). I mostly use the pen input/Onenote for just jotting down quick notes. But, yeah, it all comes down to user preference/needs.There are more text vertically and it is easier to follow lines, since they are shorter horizontally.
Under landscape however, I view two pages side by side, or snap something else as another reference or work side by side. Being in some orientations of the tablet PC in close proximity to my view, the text size is nice for me per the resolution.
I think Microsoft is a bit ahead of their game, which is why Win 8 has some mixed reviews. Either people really love it, absolutely hate it, or there are few in between. I am on the in between side - I love Windows 8 on my Surface Pro 2 - easily the best Windows 8 experience on any device ever. However, put Windows 8 on a desktop, and it just makes no sense at all. I want a start menu, the metro err modern start screen is just absolutely useless on a non-touchscreen device (imo). Fortunately for me, I can use Startisback (or similar programs) to restore the start menu on a desktop computer and reap the other benefits of Windows 8. They should have taken their time to release Windows 8. Windows 8.1 U1 should have been the initial release of Windows 8 - they tried to push a big change too quickly. They're trying to make a one size fits all OS (or at least a consistent UI) that works amongst WP, computers, and Xbox. I just hope they can get it right.Microsoft is trying to truly pioneer the chasm between the desktop and mobile territories.
As they have demonstrated, and everyone else has demonstrated, that chasm cannot yet be bridged with the current software and hardware combinations. Perhaps the only limit is truly software, which would suggest we are not far from realizing this dream.
If it is hardware, that could explain why we are at these particular crossroads.
Why else should we still be seemingly so far away?
Do not forget that the pioneering attitude can take a few generations to truly latch onto, and take over, a market. The iPhone was a pseudo smart device at the first onset, missing much of what made it the success it has become. It was a well-engineered but minimal and boring pot shot at the market - it took another round or two establish itself in the market. Apple pioneered, demonstrating that their business approach could ultimately succeed,
I firmly believe Microsoft is on to something here. First consider that the hybrid software market has been considered previously, Everyone knows the consumer market is out there, ripe for the right product. That said, getting a full enterprise-class OS to be friendly and workable in the consumer tablet space is next to impossible, for all intents and purposes.
There are the few who can make do and thrive on a few iterations of the concept as they exist today, but that does not make the market; that makes the niche. If the developers can help establish that healthy
Ugh. Is it June 20th yet? I'm going crazy waiting for this. It's cruel and unusual punishment. Feels like I'm waiting for Christmas.
They really need a more rigid and hinged keyboard option. If you combined that with the battery keyboard you'd get a pretty epic road machine. Imagine close to 15 hours battery life, one of the thinnest, lightest form factors available, and some real processing guts inside of it. Plus you can rip the keyboard off of it and watch netflix easily in bed once you get to your hotel.
As it is right now, the lack of hinged keyboard makes real "lap" work almost impossible and it's awkward on many other less than ideal..errr..surfaces.
I don't want every keyboard to be that way, but the power pack one seems to make the most sense.
At least you don't have to wait until September for the i7 version!!
I don't know about that anymore. While it still is not an absolutely perfect replacement for the true hinged keyboard/screen of solid laptops, some reviewers have been saying the new kickstand, larger form factor, and new stabilizer magnet bar on the keyboard help make it a breeze to use on your lap.
http://gizmodo.com/surface-pro-3-review-the-greatest-laptop-tablet-hybrid-1581896186
Your statements are true with the SP1 and SP2 - I find it rarely comfortable to use on my lap.
And the idea of a solid stable hinged keyboard is definitely something I'd be interested in buying for something like the SP3, but it would really need to just about double the weight of the total kit and introduce some new sacrifices.
It's now about a balance of what is right for what - the option should be provided, however, and there's always a possibility they could introduce a hinged keyboard but I wouldn't expect it to have many extra features other than a hefty battery.
It would need to be fairly solid and thick to be able to house a strong enough hinge and locking system to keep the Surface upright without the kickstand.
The Venue 11 Pro accomplishes that just fine. The slimmer form factor of the SP3 would make it a lot more feasible.
They really need a more rigid and hinged keyboard option. If you combined that with the battery keyboard you'd get a pretty epic road machine. Imagine close to 15 hours battery life, one of the thinnest, lightest form factors available, and some real processing guts inside of it. Plus you can rip the keyboard off of it and watch netflix easily in bed once you get to your hotel.
As it is right now, the lack of hinged keyboard makes real "lap" work almost impossible and it's awkward on many other less than ideal..errr..surfaces.
I don't want every keyboard to be that way, but the power pack one seems to make the most sense.
I couldn't agree more. They are selling the cover separately anyway, just make another heavy dock cover or get someone else to make it. That way people who have no problem with a couple pound weight will buy that and the rest the type cover.
I don't know about that anymore. While it still is not an absolutely perfect replacement for the true hinged keyboard/screen of solid laptops, some reviewers have been saying the new kickstand, larger form factor, and new stabilizer magnet bar on the keyboard help make it a breeze to use on your lap.
http://gizmodo.com/surface-pro-3-review-the-greatest-laptop-tablet-hybrid-1581896186
Your statements are true with the SP1 and SP2 - I find it rarely comfortable to use on my lap.
And the idea of a solid stable hinged keyboard is definitely something I'd be interested in buying for something like the SP3, but it would really need to just about double the weight of the total kit and introduce some new sacrifices.
It's now about a balance of what is right for what - the option should be provided, however, and there's always a possibility they could introduce a hinged keyboard but I wouldn't expect it to have many extra features other than a hefty battery.
It would need to be fairly solid and thick to be able to house a strong enough hinge and locking system to keep the Surface upright without the kickstand.
I was really disappointed with the Dell Venue 11 Pro. And it's so weird, because I love the Venue 8 Pro. Not sure what was going on, but I had lots of quirky driver issues with the 11 Pro and ended up returning it.
As stated earlier, you still have to balance the stand on your leg. The keyboard was only half the problem, and doesn't change how awkward it is in the lap.