SweClockers: Geforce GTX 590 burns @ 772MHz & 1.025V

[Qianglong]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc

I don't know what to say about this but I will be very pissed if my brand new $700 toy just goes up in smoke like this !

Radeon 6990 Thermal During IDLE:

Radeon 6990 Thermal During LOAD:

GTX 590 IDLE

GTX 590 LOAD

Courtesy of Hardforums!



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Original thread title:

Nvidia Geforce GTX590 SMOKES and destroy itself during light overlocking...

New thread title:

SweClockers: Geforce GTX 590 burns @ 772MHz & 1.025V

Idontcare
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[Arkadrel]

Swedish site: (fryed 2 cards)
http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/13...sweclockers-testlabb-drivrutin-boven-i-dramat

They installed CD drivers (that came with the retail boxes) instead of ones from Nvidia homepage.

Romanian site:
http://translate.google.ro/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=ro&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ro&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.itfiles.ro%2F2011%2F03%2Fnvidia-geforce-gtx-590-noul-rege-al-placilor-video%2F13%2F

unbeknownst(to me) reviewer (quoted from main thread):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4791289&postcount=37

tbreak.com:
http://tbreak.com/tech/2011/03/zotac-gtx-590-review/3/

TechpowerUP:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_590/27.html

Hardware.fr:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/825-2/dossier-nvidia-repond-amd-avec-geforce-gtx-590.html

 

[96Firebird]

So... Can't keep this in the GTX 590 thread...?

 

[SlowSpyder]

I was told people who buy this card are not into overclocking.

 

[Will Robinson]

Critical hardware failures on such expensive cards warrants its own thread.

 

[faxon]

why would you do that when this is a serious issue and deserves its own thread?

 

[BD231]

Why exactly are these Fermi cards having so many VRM issues??? Honestly I'm a little shocked.

 

[SHAQ]

I believe it's just the 570 and 590 that are subject to this.

 

[toyota]

it was combo of way too much much voltage and a beta driver not intended for use on this card.

“The few press reports on GTX 590 boards dying were caused by overvoltaging to unsafe levels (as high as 1.2V vs. default voltage of 0.91 to 0.96V), and using older drivers that have lower levels of overcurrent protection. Rest assured that GTX 590 operates reliably at default voltages, and our 267.84 launch drivers provide even more additional levels of protection for overclockers. For more information on overclocking and overcurrent protection on GTX 590 please see our knowledge base article here: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/n...p_faqid=2947.”

 

[GaiaHunter]

it was combo of way too much much voltage and a beta driver not intended for use on this card.

“The few press reports on GTX 590 boards dying were caused by overvoltaging to unsafe levels (as high as 1.2V vs. default voltage of 0.91 to 0.96V), and using older drivers that have lower levels of overcurrent protection. Rest assured that GTX 590 operates reliably at default voltages, and our 267.84 launch drivers provide even more additional levels of protection for overclockers. For more information on overclocking and overcurrent protection on GTX 590 please see our knowledge base article here: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/n...p_faqid=2947.”

As high as 1.2V but not only. And there was more than 1 version of driver involved.

Will be interesting to see how this situation develops, but what is happening with these dual-GPU Flagships? - 6990 with AUSUM fiasco and the GTX590 with the even greater fiasco "driver that kills cards 2.0".

 

[ronnn]

So is this why the reviewers asked for more time?

 

[Rubycon]

OCP fail. A transistor is the fastest fuse known to man. (or woman!)

Too bad such a catastrophic failure makes an expensive paperweight!

I'm surprised this happens with this design. But it did. Two years and back to the drawing board. D:

 

[amenx]

Looks like the 590 may be going the way of the 4870x2 (the latter dying in numbers even without OC). I was never a fan of dual GPUs.

 

[TerabyteX]

Wow, I think they slacked too much in component quality to keep the production costs in check.

 

[3DVagabond]

Looks like the 590 may be going the way of the 4870x2 (the latter dying in numbers even without OC). I was never a fan of dual GPUs.

That thread was started by someone who had their card for ~2yrs. While, I'd expect a card to last more than 2yrs. it's not at all the same thing. We're talking multiple failures on release day while being tested by pros, who one would assume know what they are doing.

 

[amenx]

That thread was started by someone who had their card for ~2yrs. While, I'd expect a card to last more than 2yrs. it's not at all the same thing. We're talking multiple failures on release day while being tested by pros, who one would assume know what they are doing.

Sure, but look at the number of people reporting dead cards under normal conditions. Vs pros who push cards to extremes. Doesnt inspire confidence either way. :sneaky:

 

[3DVagabond]

Sure, but look at the number of people reporting dead cards under normal conditions. Vs pros who push cards to extremes. Doesnt inspire confidence either way. :sneaky:

Wow, Talk about being presumptuous. So, people don't push their gear to extremes and reviewers don't review cards as people normally use them?

 

[badb0y]

Sure, but look at the number of people reporting dead cards under normal conditions. Vs pros who push cards to extremes. Doesnt inspire confidence either way. :sneaky:

True enthusiasts will go balls to the walls with these cards, and since these are high end, super expensive, and high performance cards I would say 90%+ people buying them are enthusiasts.

 

[taltamir]

looking at the movie, it seems that the fan stopped, something melted / smoked off the back, then the fan started again...

is there a bug in the retail CD drivers that causes the fan to stop?

Also, the voltage protection wouldn't be subject to driver issues if it was a hardware protection for the card rather then a cheating software that detects when a known benchmarking software is run and ONLY throttles during it (does not throttle during normal operation, only during benchmarks).

 

[Qianglong]

Guys I remembered a while a ago either faulty drivers or hardware causes nvidia cards to self destruct when playing star craft II - it seems this time it went up another notch!

 

[Udgnim]

if Nvidia did not want reviewers to overclock the GTX 590, then I'm sure they would have stated so when sending them out

seems like Nvidia rushed and didn't internal test their cards well enough to foresee something like this happening

 

[cocoreno]

After having owned several of these "two cards in one slot" jobbies, both nVidia and ATI, I'm convinced they are more trouble than they are worth. I recommend anyone who has a need for this much graphics power to purchase two cards and go Crossfire or SLI.

Trust me, you'll pay with a limited-run part that's louder, feature-limited with multiple monitors, and extremely difficult to fit into many cases.

 

[taltamir]

After having owned several of these "two cards in one slot" jobbies, both nVidia and ATI, I'm convinced they are more trouble than they are worth. I recommend anyone who has a need for this much graphics power to purchase two cards and go Crossfire or SLI.

Trust me, you'll pay with a limited-run part that's louder, feature-limited with multiple monitors, and extremely difficult to fit into many cases.

don't forget slower. Two GPUs on one card are always slower.

 

[blastingcap]

Current high-end 40nm cards' power/heat/noise levels are a bit much for my tastes. Wake me up when 28nm arrives and the highest-end single 28nm GPU is as fast as the 6990/590. Dual GPU (on a single card or even multiple cards) always has more issues than single GPU.

 

[Silverforce11]

5970 was great, they were made to OC and most managed to reach and exceed 5870 speeds. no problems with overheating or dying cards.
Again, 6990 are the same, most are able to be manually OC beyond 6970 speeds and dont die from overheating or component failures. Perhaps there is a reason why these cards and their PCBs are so long and robust.

Whats worrying about the 590s is the crazy temps on the actual card/PCB itself, reaching a staggering 112C under gaming load. That puts out a lot of radiant heat to nearby hardware. SLI 590s will likely die very fast unless its on water.

If these cards keep on dying even with the new fixed drivers, it will be a huge problem.