The card specs were already set before that. Last minute review drivers would be my guess. They've actually just released another new driver today (Mar 25th).
Testing? I doubt they had much chance for it. Clearly they did not expect 6990 to scale so well, so they thought that 2x downclocked 580s on 1 pcb will be good enough to beat 6990... Remember the 2 day delay due to drivers? I bet that's because they never designed the 590 to go above 500MHz and so, they had to do a 6 months worth of catching up in 2 weeks, to push it to semi competitive range of 6xxMHz... The problem with 590 is exactly the same problem as is with 580, it is too power hungry.
590 can be a great card if:
1. You clock it at 580 speeds
2. You give it 580 voltages
3. You install much much better power circuitry (This is what is failing now)
4. You install a cooler capable of 600+ watts of thermal capacity
5. You give it 700W of electrical power.
Testing? I doubt they had much chance for it. Clearly they did not expect 6990 to scale so well, so they thought that 2x downclocked 580s on 1 pcb will be good enough to beat 6990... Remember the 2 day delay due to drivers? I bet that's because they never designed the 590 to go above 500MHz and so, they had to do a 6 months worth of catching up in 2 weeks, to push it to semi competitive range of 6xxMHz... The problem with 590 is exactly the same problem as is with 580, it is too power hungry.
590 can be a great card if:
1. You clock it at 580 speeds
2. You give it 580 voltages
3. You install much much better power circuitry (This is what is failing now)
4. You install a cooler capable of 600+ watts of thermal capacity
5. You give it 700W of electrical power.
Where's your proof of that statement, HM? Or are you just so green loyal that you'll just simply lie and hope it's accepted as fact? Or is it just that you cannot fathom anyone criticizing Nvidia products unless they're a paid AMD employee....which is just what you're saying? I thought that sort of statement was not within this sub-forum's guidelines.
Guess exceptions are always made, though.
BFG10K is right about overclock. The idea of OC isn't about manufacturer not max out the performance, but rather for people who knows about electronics, spend time to read and understand varies parts/specs and how they work together to actually squeeze some more performance out of tolerance from mass production.Nonsense.
CPUs and GPUs are usually overclockable. The failure mode usually being that they don't overclock very well. Not blowing up. Especially not six out of a limited review set.
Some people got lucky since their cards did not blow up?
Ok OK Ok thats one out of thousands.
You don't think other cards have done that?
Do you relize this topic is being amplified by 1000x by one guy who threw too many volts into one card? On top of that you have about 20 or so AMD marketers in these threads keeping these threads and this subject matter alive?
Badboy you are smarter then that.
I'm kinda glad I was banned, Talk to you in a few days when this crap is on the second page and the damage needed to be achieved is done.
You come back to make unsubstantiated accusations and then say Badboy is caught up in the conspiracy? It's also funny how you claim some users are "amplifying" the situation when you yourself are using hyperbole to the contrary.
I keep seeing the same swedish video's reported at numerous foreign language sites. Ananads , Hocp, Toms , Canucks are all hearing about this, I'll wait to they write articles addressing this topic. Armchair engineers declaring this or that is not helping anything.
I think Fermi does surprsingly well in the mid-middle/high end ranges
GTX 460, and 560 are some of the best cards for the dollar right now, and the GTX 580 was a slam dunk compared to the 480.
How Nvidia can skimp on components (I'm assuming) for a 700$ card is beyond me though...
Are you for real? Whether its 100% or 0% that fail overclocked, its still not the cards fault.
The card is rated to operate at the volts and clocks it ships from the factory. Anyone that goes above those is taking a risk. If the card blows up as a result its not faulty, its the individual at fault for operating it incorrectly outside of its rated parameters.
The only way the card would be faulty is if it failed at factory voltages/clocks, but that doesnt seem to be happening here.
Dont confuse the overclocking hysteria on the internet with something that is mandatory and guaranteed from any piece of hardware, because it isnt. Just because little Timmy can overclock something it doesnt mean you can, should expect it to, or is faulty because it cant.
Unless you have a big display and CrossfireX or SLI isn't for you, these two cards look a little dinosaury to me.
Are you for real? Whether its 100% or 0% that fail overclocked, its still not the cards fault.
The card is rated to operate at the volts and clocks it ships from the factory. Anyone that goes above those is taking a risk. If the card blows up as a result its not faulty, its the individual at fault for operating it incorrectly outside of its rated parameters.
The only way the card would be faulty is if it failed at factory voltages/clocks, but that doesnt seem to be happening here.
Dont confuse the overclocking hysteria on the internet with something that is mandatory and guaranteed from any piece of hardware, because it isnt. Just because little Timmy can overclock something it doesnt mean you can, should expect it to, or is faulty because it cant.
The HD6990 hardly covers itself with glory...its too loud ,runs pretty warm and uses a lot of power.Maybe some people have a use for it but its a big clunker of a thing really.
I expected better from NVDA but it seems theirclunker is more of the same thing but a bit quieter.
Unless you have a big display and CrossfireX or SLI isn't for you, these two cards look a little dinosaury to me.
^ 0_0 at both... why can't AMD and nVidia focus on power efficiency and not raw power? you'd think that they would due to the fact that PC games are going to be going nowhere for the next few years graphics-wise. (talking about console ports, of course.)
I keep seeing the same swedish video's reported at numerous foreign language sites. Ananads , Hocp, Toms , Canucks are all hearing about this, I'll wait to they write articles addressing this topic. Armchair engineers declaring this or that is not helping anything.
You must've been sleeping for the last 2½ years. Ever since RV770 showed up, power efficiency has been the name of the game for AMD.
Anyone notice this? As it's funny......
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1539215&postcount=47
Anyone notice this? As it's funny......
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1539215&postcount=47
Lmfao,nice spotAnyone notice this? As it's funny......
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1539215&postcount=47
Unless this is happening at stock voltages/clocks then its a non-issue. Overclocking operates hardware outside of its rated spec which it was technically never designed to do. Just because some people get lucky with some hardware it doesnt mean it should be an expectation.
^^ This , i know already of 5 dead cards from my friends that died at stock voltages stock clock running heaven and Vantage benchmark , add 2 more testing on LN2 and 2 more on H2O = 9 cards already , how many dead 590s have not been reported ? this card cannot even handle 100% full load on GPU for long periods of time , yes it will blow up in smoke even at stock voltages and stock clocks. Nvidia should make a recall on this cards me thinks :/ , so many cards 590s have died and since has not been reported it looks thats just a few cards , the truth is , its going to happen soon or later , its like a time bomb , this card its a total failure and im sad i had high expectations on this card. Ill wait for the next 28mm cards to be release , as of right now 590 or 6990 are not apealing to me at all