[Sweclockers] Radeon 380X coming late spring, almost 50% improvement over 290X

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destrekor

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If that is a problem, i'll recommend saving some dough to buy newer cards to be launched in q2... and upgrade chassis CPU cooling at the same time. Unless, you're itching to play a new game, which you must. In that case, a single 290 should be more than enough for most games.

Upgrading the case and CPU cooling is out of the question. I'm not doing that this late into this build's lifespan. It's an i7 2600k and Asus P8Z68 Deluxe build. Outside of the GPU (this is the first upgrade since I put this together), I'm not spending more money on other aspects of the build unless I'm starting over entirely.


I might not care about the streaming in the end, it'd be a bonus - and AMD's hardware encoding could be improved with drivers, though it might be tough to match Nvidia's dedicated encoder in terms of not rendering a performance hit... I'm trying to figure out if replacing the intake right next to the GPUs on the side, and making that the exhaust from the radiator. Then I would put in top fans as intake to compensate.
 

tential

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Game streaming works fine with an AMD GPU. Yes, you can't do it the nvidia hardware route but most likely, your CPU is fast enough to do it. I've only used Steam In Home Streaming on my HD7950 with no issues. I doubt a 290x/390x will have any issues with it if you have an i7. I have a 4770k and no issues with it.
 

Gloomy

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Game streaming works fine with an AMD GPU. Yes, you can't do it the nvidia hardware route but most likely, your CPU is fast enough to do it. I've only used Steam In Home Streaming on my HD7950 with no issues. I doubt a 290x/390x will have any issues with it if you have an i7. I have a 4770k and no issues with it.

A 7950 has VCE, a video encoder roughly equal to the one found in Kepler and Intel's Quicksync.

You are not using your CPU for encoding video when using Steam to stream... though, if you have your Intel drivers installed Steam might choose to use Quicksync for it instead.
 

destrekor

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Another consideration for me:
I don't know if the 295X2 is compatible with a Hackintosh system. Trying to figure that out now.
 

RussianSensation

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Another consideration for me:
I don't know if the 295X2 is compatible with a Hackintosh system. Trying to figure that out now.

I think you are overthinking things.

- you want DX12
- you want ShadowPlay
- 295X2 can't fit in your case

Just get 970 reference bestbuy blowers from bestbuy. Those are good cards. Just maybe try to get a Mover's coupon to get a discount. I think some people in the US noted that you can get them at a local post office.
 

Kenmitch

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I think you are overthinking things.

- you want DX12
- you want ShadowPlay
- 295X2 can't fit in your case

Just get 970 reference bestbuy blowers from bestbuy. Those are good cards. Just maybe try to get a Mover's coupon to get a discount. I think some people in the US noted that you can get them at a local post office.

They are readily available on ebay also for a couple of bucks if you can't find one. I bought one of the ones that was good online the other day for $3.49. Figured it wasn't worth the hassle of running from post office to post office looking for the packets....Rumor is they include a in store only coupon now. Doesn't do a person much good if the local BestBuy doesn't have one in stock. Hell even if they got one in stock I'd rather order it online for in store pickup as it makes it a much quicker transaction.
 

destrekor

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I think you are overthinking things.

- you want DX12
- you want ShadowPlay
- 295X2 can't fit in your case

Just get 970 reference bestbuy blowers from bestbuy. Those are good cards. Just maybe try to get a Mover's coupon to get a discount. I think some people in the US noted that you can get them at a local post office.

It probably is the 970 for easier OS X compatibility and, as you said elsewhere, better overhead for overclocking. (still waiting for advice from the Hackintosh community)
I just don't think it will be the bestbuy reference card. AFTER 10% discount, it's still around $350ish. I've heard of success with pricematching against other 970s, which is interesting... and I think I saw someone say they got it matched online through chat. There are none in stock at any store in the surrounding area, so I'd have to try online anyhow.

I just don't know if that is the solution if I want to OC - I'd like lower GPU temps without having a turbine right next to me. Filling the rest of the fan vents on the case should minimize concern of additional heat. I'm still looking into information on that "reference" card (it is a partnership with Best Buy, and Nvidia contracted it out to Foxconn ... hmm), in terms of noise and thermal performance, especially OC'd to levels that match competing cards.
 

dangerman1337

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If launch is imminent, holy crap I'm excited, hopefully its ~50% faster than R290X and reasonably priced.

I dont think its close though because board pics and such would be available from AIB leakers at least a month in advanced.
Sweclockers said around Computex time which I hope that's more there "absolute high end" (GM200 competitor, Fiji?). AMD needs a 970/980 competitor now. Hopefully being better buy or driving down the 980 price significantly which Nvidia is just milking and the 970's 3.5GB VRAM problem puts me off and the coil-whine issues.
 
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Sunaiac

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They've had a 970/980 competitor for 18 months. Why ppl act like a 350€ 970 is a better deal than a 280€ 290 TRiX is beyond me, but I'd be really annoyed if all that comes is a "970" competitor.
What we need is something performant, not another sidegrade.
 

dangerman1337

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They've had a 970/980 competitor for 18 months. Why ppl act like a 350€ 970 is a better deal than a 280€ 290 TRiX is beyond me, but I'd be really annoyed if all that comes is a "970" competitor.
What we need is something performant, not another sidegrade.
Well in the UK AMD really haven't done any significant price drops (the cheapest 290 isn't even £40 pounds less than the 970, if 290s could be found for £200 in the UK I'd agree that would be the case over here).
 

MeldarthX

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Danger 290 was at 200 for while in the UK; its sitting about 230 now; while 970 has creeped up past 260-270 mark and getting higher.

Wait: double checked prices; at least one place you can snage Tri-X for 215 new; ex display asus for 190; msi 290X gaming ex display - for 230

Nvidia side; one place I checked lowest was 272: rest was 290+ Another was 260 with another at 270; rest at 290+

Its exchange rate right now Dollar has come on strong so hardware has gone up a little......

So the 290 is easily £40 pounds less if you look around I could put more prices up if you want.....plus you still can get free games with AMD to sell for making is even less.....290 still best bang for your buck card at 200ish range.....
 

Dribble

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Danger 290 was at 200 for while in the UK; its sitting about 230 now; while 970 has creeped up past 260-270 mark and getting higher.

Wait: double checked prices; at least one place you can snage Tri-X for 215 new; ex display asus for 190; msi 290X gaming ex display - for 230

Nvidia side; one place I checked lowest was 272: rest was 290+ Another was 260 with another at 270; rest at 290+

Its exchange rate right now Dollar has come on strong so hardware has gone up a little......

So the 290 is easily £40 pounds less if you look around I could put more prices up if you want.....plus you still can get free games with AMD to sell for making is even less.....290 still best bang for your buck card at 200ish range.....

A quick check on google puts GTX 970's starting at about £240, and the radeon 290 at about £225.
 

MeldarthX

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A quick check on google puts GTX 970's starting at about £240, and the radeon 290 at about £225.

Where is the 970 for 240?

with google lowest is 265; Inno 3d which is from ILGS.net shop; never heard of them....I'm in the UK so I actually see UK prices; if you're attempting to translate from US its not going to work.

I did say lowest to be seen is 260ish; but that's one card; another is 272; while rest are 290+

as I said; you got a tri-x for 215; another 225; another 230-240. Then 265 starting price for 290X....
 

Dribble

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Where is the 970 for 240?

with google lowest is 265; Inno 3d which is from ILGS.net shop; never heard of them....I'm in the UK so I actually see UK prices; if you're attempting to translate from US its not going to work.

I did say lowest to be seen is 260ish; but that's one card; another is 272; while rest are 290+

as I said; you got a tri-x for 215; another 225; another 230-240. Then 265 starting price for 290X....

https://www.theelectrohut.com/Graph...015?ai=18394&gclid=CKf3zNySssMCFeXm7AodFTIArw
 

MeldarthX

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Have you ever ordered from there? No reviews on Google I have shops I order from; the main ones.......these ones that pop up I wouldn't trust.

If you look at rest of google's shops its sitting lowest at 263-265; ave from google is 272; but you knew that.....pretty much where I said prices are......One dodgy shop does make its price at 240 unless you're going to order from there to see if they will actually ship to you...

https://www.google.co.uk/shopping/p...ing:p&ei=UXbGVKiYJs3haJW-gqgF&ved=0CG0Q2SswAA
 

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DeathReborn

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