[Sweclockers] Radeon 380X coming late spring, almost 50% improvement over 290X

[3DVagabond]

I really dont understand why we want to go to 4K. It would be way way better to have higher image quality at 1080p.

edit: I would prefer a 3x 1080x1920 (3240x1920) at very high image quality (very high texture quality and 2-3 times higher lighting) than current games at 4K.

4K is a TV resolution. This will drive prices down quickly as there will be a huge number of screens manufactured to cover the TV market. 3K? for lack of a better term, would only be applicable to computer monitors. The number of units would be minuscule compared to TV's and keep the prices higher for longer.

 

[beginner99]

I'm gonna go 1440p and 120hz. Much better for shooters. Now if you play other types of games like Civ or starcraft, then 4K might have more advantages and your not really that GPU limited to begin with.

 

[AtenRa]

Well i would prefer 21:9 for both TV and PC Gaming like this LG ultra wide 34" than 4K 16:9

I really would like industry to swift to 21:9 format and ditch 16:9 both for TVs and PCs. It is pathetic to watch movies on a 16:9 TV with black bars, its also better for gaming with higher field of view than 16:9.

 

[dangerman1337]

Seems Gibbo at OCUK has said there won't be a new AMD card until May-July: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=27544590&postcount=4

They are not around the corner, there will be no new product from AMD until around May-July time and then it will probably be a 380X.

 

[garagisti]

Oh well, we all knew action was in q2. Ahem, thing is, it has twice as much bandwidth and lower latencies, and suddenly some of the older games should see a big jump. Somehow I don't see much improvements, thanks mostly to good for nothing publishers/ developers, in future games, even if resources on 380x or gm200 allow it. I think we will possibly see how important such a thing as mantle can be, allowing easier and efficient use of hardware. While dx12 is good, surely there are going to be some compromises, and it will be interesting times ahead.

 

[Cloudfire777]

From the Fixer 3 teaser...

 

[n0x1ous]

From the Fixer 3 teaser...

fixer 3 is out - thats just an un-named nvidia card

 

[destrekor]

fixer 3 is out - thats just an un-named nvidia card

Could be any Asus card. The idea of the video suggested it was an AMD card, as well. (he was the fixer's opposite)
Seems to be a DirectCU II 290, but could be anything.

 

[Cloudfire777]

Edit: nevermind

 

[n0x1ous]

Could be any Asus card. The idea of the video suggested it was an AMD card, as well. (he was the fixer's opposite)
Seems to be a DirectCU II 290, but could be anything.

correct - brain lapse on my part - nothing in the video hinted at r9 3xx though

 

[exar333]

Well i would prefer 21:9 for both TV and PC Gaming like this LG ultra wide 34" than 4K 16:9

I really would like industry to swift to 21:9 format and ditch 16:9 both for TVs and PCs. It is pathetic to watch movies on a 16:9 TV with black bars, its also better for gaming with higher field of view than 16:9.

Bingo!

Totally agree with you here. Its both immersive for games and also really productive from a work standpoint. 16:9 1080P was just too much of a compromise on vertical resolution and overall usability. With higher resolutions and a wider horizontal field of view, 21:9 is a game-changer.

 

[jackstar7]

Bingo!

Totally agree with you here. Its both immersive for games and also really productive from a work standpoint. 16:9 1080P was just too much of a compromise on vertical resolution and overall usability. With higher resolutions and a wider horizontal field of view, 21:9 is a game-changer.

I wish the lone 21:9 TV (vizio, I believe) had done better in the market so we might see a move in that direction across monitors and TVs.

 

[exar333]

I wish the lone 21:9 TV (vizio, I believe) had done better in the market so we might see a move in that direction across monitors and TVs.

Yeah, but with 16:9 so entrenched in media formats, that will be tough.

When we have better DPI scaling, I would love a ~40'' 6880x2880 display. That would be amazing, and much better than 4K/8K IMHO.

 

[boozzer]

guys, how reliable is this info for 50% over 290x?

I would so freaking upgrade if true, even though I just bought a 290. 50% is enough of a performance threshold for me to upgrade.

damn, was going to buy a laptop with a 980m. now I am gonna wait a few months and see what amd has going for the mobile gpus.

 

[Silverforce11]

Nothing concrete but we know at least its >550mm2, very low latency & high bandwidth vram (!!) with a hybrid water cooler and up to 300W TDP. If its NOT ~50% I would consider that a fail.

 

[garagisti]

I wish the lone 21:9 TV (vizio, I believe) had done better in the market so we might see a move in that direction across monitors and TVs.

Philips were first to market with that resolution AFAIK. It was called Cinemavision or something. Somehow that just didn't sell much, heck Philips won awards for their 4k tv, but you can't see any of their products in the market.

Vizio R series though, heck of a TV.

 

[garagisti]

guys, how reliable is this info for 50% over 290x?

I would so freaking upgrade if true, even though I just bought a 290. 50% is enough of a performance threshold for me to upgrade.

damn, was going to buy a laptop with a 980m. now I am gonna wait a few months and see what amd has going for the mobile gpus.

You better wait it out till 4th of July anyways... good sales At any rate, HBM with low latencies should make the new AMD chips a heck of an upgrade. Reportedly rumours were suggesting 40+% already with drivers which are half baked. GM200 is about the same mark.

 

[boozzer]

well, 4th of july it is. just 5 more months.

 

[biostud]

Could it be that 380X is aircooled cut down version and 390X is full core with closed loop cooling?

 

[ocre]

You better wait it out till 4th of July anyways... good sales At any rate, HBM with low latencies should make the new AMD chips a heck of an upgrade. Reportedly rumours were suggesting 40+% already with drivers which are half baked. GM200 is about the same mark.

I am actually quite sure those early leaks were all fake. The best we have is performance estimates based on supposed specs.

I think 40% is very reasonable to expect. But i have this rule where i dont allow myself to get pumped up with expectations of performance. I would rather be surprised and shocked than disappointed and let down.'
you can turn a great chip into a dud just by having overly optimistic expectations before it launches.

Waiting til the 4th of july....
Man that is a long time in for gamers. I mean, i often suggest people to wait a few weeks or maybe even a month but telling people to wait 5-6months? wow

boozzer already has a 290 so there is no reason to buy anything else right now anyway. But he brings up a laptop with a 980m.......

If he is wanting a laptop then waiting till july makes no sense at all.
There will not be much better for laptops. I dont think the 380/390x will change the laptop landscape much at all. I could be wrong but i am pretty sure that anyone getting a gm204 laptop today will be just fine even after other chips launch this year. The gm200, 380, or 390(x) wont make a major difference in the laptop world. Even if AMD manages to somehow best maxwell efficiency, it wont be by much. Its really gonna be a great accomplishment if they even reach parity.

If he is interested in a great gaming laptop, i think the gm204 is the chip for that. Waiting makes little sense to me if we are talking about laptop purchases.

 

[RussianSensation]

I agree with ocre on not waiting for 300 series in laptops. The main reason to wait to buy a laptop is Skylake, or if you want a MacBook Air/Pro as current models are ancient. On the 2nd point of waiting 5-6 months on the desktop, I don't think that's a long time for anyone with half decent GPUs. I guess for me it's not because during this time of the year I downhill ski and watch a lot of sports on TV. I guess if gaming is your only/main hobby, then 5-6 months is a long time. The most demanding (poorly optimized) games ironically are ones that aren't great games to begin with, with average/uninspiring gameplay/story (AC Unity, Dying Light, The Crew, Watch Dogs). Thus far I have not come across any PC game that actually made me really want to upgrade. I am more excited about Zelda U, Bloodborne, and Uncharted 4 than 90% of PC games coming out. Sad, but true.

 

[ocre]

I dont think anyone with a 780(ti) or 290(x) should be in a hurry to upgrade.

I took my 970 back and swapped it for a 980 and truthfully, i cant tell much difference at all. My 970 was locked at 1515mhz boost and perhaps that makes a difference but i have the 980 pushed up +200 and its locked at 1400mhz boost.

So far there i cant feel much of a difference between a 1500mhz 970 and a 1400mhz 980.
guess i may need to overclock the 980 further. I have tried increasing a few settings but these cards perform really close to one another. I think they all are pretty close. Gaming without a fps overlay, a person would be very hard pressed to tell them apart.
That could be its own thread as well

 

[Magic Carpet]

I took my 970 back and swapped it for a 980 and truthfully, i cant tell much difference at all. My 970 was locked at 1515mhz boost and perhaps that makes a difference but i have the 980 pushed up +200 and its locked at 1400mhz boost.

The 980 will age much more gracefully, I reckon. If you plan on keeping it for 2-3 years. It's worth the extra, imo. But if you don't, then why the hell did you exchange your 970... might as well could have gone for 290 and pocket the difference. Then in 6 months do another upgrade.

Oh well, at least you have a 4GB card now :thumbsup:

 

[MongGrel]

I'm still using my old 280X DCUII TOP atm for over a year now and not even gaming much.

Old is relative I guess, but there has to be knew things just to make the 4K and similar more viable I suppose.

Something like this might make me think about upgrading it.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Yeah I have a 280x overclocked and only game at 1080p so it runs fine for me. I was looking at upgrading for Witcher 3 though, but looks like there will be no new cards coming out before then.