SWEET DEAL!!!! *FREE* Packets of Equal at Starbuck's B&M! NO MIR OR PM CRAP!

[riddelrp]

<< If I walked in and used their &quot;customers only&quot; bathroom, that would also be &quot;stealing&quot; a service >>


Actually, my friend works at *$'s and their official policy is that only customers can use the bathroom. The one he works at enforces this, as do the rest.

Also, I worked at a coffee shop in high school, and taking equals would be stealing. Think about this. If you walk into a car service shop and they have tires stacked up. If you took one that would be the same. There is no sign saying that these cost money . . . and like *$'s there is no sign that says &quot;complimentary.&quot;

Also, companies do not have to list all rules/regulations in plain view. To stay on coffee, *$'s has tons of coffee laying out, why not take them? No prices.

-RYan

 

[theedge]

So, if I use salt or pepper? hot sauce? Ketchup? Vinegar? Hmm...there are no posted signs that say condiments are only for use of the customer...like they do on restrooms...

 

[telstar1]

Can somebody please lock this crap?

 

[BossDog]

Your counter-examples do nothing to weaken my argument; rather, they enhance my point. The napkins, toilets, etc. are supplementary services provided by the establishment. As such, they are meant for the use of the patrons, not the public at large. Very few restaurants or other businesses would look kindly upon the practice which you are professing. While I don't think very many proprietors would call the police, unless it was egregious, it still is techincally stealing.

As for the saliva comment, I simply misread your name. My apologies.

However, I cannot similarly dismiss your attacks on my education and/or intelligence. First off, a satire requires that one is critiquing a social or political practice through the use of comedy. You at no point explain what this practice might be. Echoing phrases used in other posts does not convey the criticism of those posts. In the end, though, your use of ad hominem attacks undermine whatever credible arguments you may have had. Let us all agree that this post is definitely no &quot;modest proposal.&quot;

 

[drewski]

I'm no drug expert, but isn't cocaine the powdered stuff, while crack is some kinda crystaline &quot;rock&quot;?

A little off-topic, but . . . oh, wait, this entire thread is off-topic.

 

[4dwmorris]

My children want to go get an ice cream cone before bed. I convinced them using psychology that they dont really want ice cream, they only have a &quot;sweet tooth&quot;. I thought I would take them to that &quot;ALL YOU CAN EAT EQUAL BUFFET&quot; at Starbucks, but I dont know what time they close. Can anyone help me out!

 

[4dwmorris]

ValsalvaYourHeartOut,

You have a bad habit of using other peoples exact quotes as a basis for yet another of your stinging replys to people critical of your &quot;EQUAL&quot; topic. Your are really slippery arent you, trying to turn the table around by attacking others, demeaning others by saying, the topic was satire, it was facetious, lighten up, ect, ect.

I found it amusing that just a few topics over a &quot;Junior Member&quot; made a major mistake by posting that he was looking for a good source on a digital camera. I could not believe your attack on him for what most would consider a minor offense, not posting in the &quot;I WANNA&quot; thread. Since you love to quote others peoples replys so much, I am sure you would not mind me quoting yours below!

&quot;Well, microbman, if you don't like the rules here, you don't have to come back. Really, it's okay. We're all sick and tired of sorting through &quot;I want a blah blah <whine> <whine>&quot; postings. It says VERY CLEARLY under &quot;hot deals&quot;: &quot;Please stick to deals you've found, not items you are seeking. This is NOT a shopping service.&quot; Is it that hard to READ? And from your language, it seems like you have an attitude problem (bitter sarcasm when people explain the rules to you) and you don't seem very grateful when people do try to help you (&quot;I'll check out the sites listed like pricegrabgber etc. which I already knew about&quot. So like I said...if you can't deal with the rules, leave&quot;.

Valsalva


You sure are a two faced, hypocritical SOB, aren?t you? You might think yourself witty by your defensive replys and your suggestion of sarcasm, but I am here to inform you that you are not.

Why dont you take your own advice: &quot;If you cant deal with the rules, leave&quot;.

 

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

<< Your counter-examples do nothing to weaken my argument; rather, they enhance my point. The napkins, toilets, etc. are supplementary services provided by the establishment. As such, they are meant for the use of the patrons, not the public at large. Very few restaurants or other businesses would look kindly upon the practice which you are professing. While I don't think very many proprietors would call the police, unless it was egregious, it still is techincally stealing. >>



Read my other post again. I think you are equivocating the meaning of &quot;stealing.&quot; As I wrote in a previous post, the act of taking Equal is not LEGALLY stealing, but it IS prima facie MORALLY WRONG if you don't buy anything....and if you honestly believe that walking in and taking a napkin to wipe your mouth is a CRIME (i.e. legal stealing), then you are clearly being irrational...but it *is* arguable that doing so is somewhat unethical. There's a difference.



<< However, I cannot similarly dismiss your attacks on my education and/or intelligence. First off, a satire requires that one is critiquing a social or political practice through the use of comedy. You at no point explain what this practice might be. >>



What, am I supposed to write &quot;<satire> Free equal </satire>&quot; whenever I use satire? When Gary Larson satirizes scientists and God in his Far Side cartoons, does he have to write &quot;Satire Warning&quot; at the top of his drawing? What I wrote is clearly satirical, and it should be plainly obvious...if it isn't, then that's a shame isn't it?



<< Echoing phrases used in other posts does not convey the criticism of those posts. In the end, though, your use of ad hominem attacks undermine whatever credible arguments you may have had. Let us all agree that this post is definitely no &quot;modest proposal.&quot; >>



So basically, you're saying that since I used ad hominem, my argument is invalid. Unfortunately, only the conclusion of an ad hominem is invalid, and I have never used an ad hominem as my premises. In other words, use of ad hominem is irrelevant if it does not contribute to my conclusion...but thanks for the non sequitur.

Valsalva

 

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

<< Your are really slippery arent you, trying to turn the table around by attacking others, demeaning others by saying, the topic was satire, it was facetious, lighten up, ect, ect. >>



It WAS satire, and I even went through the trouble of breaking down individual lines from my original post to demonstrate its facetiousness. If you still don't can't see it, well, there's nothing else I can do for you.



<< I found it amusing that just a few topics over a &quot;Junior Member&quot; made a major mistake by posting that he was looking for a good source on a digital camera. I could not believe your attack on him for what most would consider a minor offense >>



Thanks for taking my post out of context. This so-called &quot;junior member&quot; was being rude and obnoxious even after a couple of individuals pointed out that his post was OT...to the point where he posted a sarcastic apology and no gratitude to the people who helped him anyway. Stuff like that pisses me off. Regardless, my post in another topic is irrelevant to this discussion. If you want to flame me so bad, why don't you start a new thread on how you hate me so much that you have to defame me?



<< You might think yourself witty by your defensive replys and your suggestion of sarcasm, but I am here to inform you that you are not. >>



Thanks for quoting me. Mimicry is the most sincere form of flattery.



<< Why dont you take your own advice: &quot;If you cant deal with the rules, leave&quot;. >>



I bet you really pat yourself on the back after using TWO of my own lines against me...but wait...that doesn't make any sense...when was I not able to deal with the rules? Oh well..I guess it sounded clever at the time you typed that in...

Valsalva

 

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[BossDog]

4dwmorris and others: this is not worth it. valsalva, or whatever his name is, isn't going to concede any point at any time. Furthermore, a cursory reading of some of his other &quot;posts&quot; indicates that his preferred hobby is to make himself feel better by knocking others down. While I'm sure it is enjoyable to him, it doesn't help the forums out at all.

valsalva: you are not the smartest man here. neither am I, but Im not in a constant quest to prove otherwise.

 

[dude]

Sounds like the deal is over?

Damn Staples... I mean Starbucks managers...

 

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

<< 4dwmorris and others: this is not worth it. valsalva, or whatever his name is, isn't going to concede any point at any time. >>



This is not a matter of conceding points or not. You people have erroneously labeled my post &quot;theft,&quot; when I have already explained that a) it was satire and b) it is not LEGAL theft, but c) it is prima facie morally wrong...and I later cited a parallel example of how people fill out surveys for free stuff (with false info and no intention of buying anything) that is ALSO prima facie morally wrong [however we call THOSE &quot;hot deals&quot;]. And I find myself repeating what I write, but people like you just can't seem to grasp this fact. And FYI, it's just one or two of you who don't seem to get it...almost everyone else caught the humor and played along. If you think you are correct, then you are welcome to address my argument...



<< Furthermore, a cursory reading of some of his other &quot;posts&quot; indicates that his preferred hobby is to make himself feel better by knocking others down. >>



Really? And what are you doing right now?

Valsalva

 

[Zepper]

I prefer nabbing the &quot;Free&quot; Turbinado sugar packets at a competing, overpriced caffeine outlet. just had to get in before this drek is slammed shut.
.bh.

 

[HawkeyeNJ]

Looks like this is going to make the 24 hour mark ... Amazing....

 

[BossDog]

I cant believe Im up this late. Anyway, I'll try this one more time. There is a difference between the survey and teh starbucks examples. Firstly, those who are allowed to take the survey and receive the reward can be limited ex ante by the survey giver. For example, if the survey giver wanted to limit the survey to those who work in a specific industry, he could. However, this should be made known prior to the consumer taking the survey. If the consumer violates that, then they could potentially be facing wire fraud charges (not that that will most likely happen, but its possible.)

The bathroom and condiment stuff is similar to this vein of logic. These items are usually limited to paying customers. Therefore, a non-customer is not entitled to those items. If they decide to take them anyways, then they are stealing from the restaurant. Of course, the restaurant could make these items available to all if they wanted, in which case there is no legal or ethical problem with taking the stuff.

Look, the last thing about knocking people down is in response to the way you respond to others. Rather than simply arguing the points, Ive noticed that you tend to insult on a personal level. Its your right to do so, but its poor manners and counterproductive. I was having a good time arguing the points till you launched into the personal stuff.